Tomhawk Is Eating His Cake And Having It Too (CBL)
- 11-18-2012, 03:02 PM
Well nothing I am taking now is all that new. In fact the reason for picking up this stack was Promethius Rising was $20 at NutraPlanet. Guessing the reason was it wasnt selling. Already had the Primal Male and figured their creatine(Clout)would make for a nice addition.
Honestly I was really hoping to try out Iron Mag Labs MSten. They pick loggers so quickly though. No offense to the loggers they selected(as I havent checked their backgrounds...YET) but I think I would have had a huge log with easily a few hundred replies and thousands of views. Would have been cool to try and top my 19,000 view log. I figure with the attention on MSten plus my following(which honestly isnt what it used to be) would have made for something really epic.
- 11-18-2012, 04:26 PM
I know not too worried about it right now. Have a bench program I can use. It got me up to around 370 or so. Probably would have hit a PR but got hurt. Have to be more careful. Actually considering getting the SlingShot by Mark Bell. Not sure yet though.
One of my training partners uses both the SlingShot and the Ram by Titan. The rebound out of these are ridiculous and definitely adds some big numbers to the bench. But I'm not sure how much carryover there is if you're a raw litter.
- 11-18-2012, 07:51 PM
11-18-2012, 10:53 PM
11-19-2012, 12:42 AM
Pic looks good dude, you're a house. Definitely built for power.
11-19-2012, 01:27 AM
Ya I try to keep up with the new supps as best I can but so many new ones pop up.
Well they only ran the promo for a few days. Once they got their set number of applicants they called the promo and announced the winners. Which it seemed to be anybody that put an app in. Just didnt see the contest in time. I think what is bugging me the most is I know I could do the product justice.
Thanks man the muscle comes easy. Imagine how it would be on cycle
11-19-2012, 09:23 AM
Supps are like freaking new movies or TV shows. So many new ones come out it is impossible to keep up with the names, ingredients, what they do, how they work, etc. It would be a full time job.
Yeah those damn promos go fast as well.
Cycle would be nice, much respect for natty gains though, In my mind.
11-19-2012, 09:42 AM
Keep at it bro! I hit 700 finally. Last week didn't due to my CNS tellin me to **** off.
How are your goodmornings?
Purus Labs Anabolic Titan/Rep
Coach AB @ BossBody.net
11-19-2012, 02:52 PM
So got some word about the MSten. I MIGHT be doing the log. It comes with a stipulation. Have to decide if it is worth it or not. 10mg of MSten twice a day does sound mighty nice.
11-19-2012, 07:55 PM
Still havent decided yet but I am leaning towards doing the log. It should be fun. Just have to watch my weight a bit. Dont have any intentions of hitting 270. My weight is probably more like 250 when I am waking up. I figure I could live with being 260 if what was added was muscle. Doubt I could cut weight with something as powerful as MSten at 20mg a day.
Alright on to my workout. It was legs at the base fitness center:
Front Squats 3 sets of 12 reps: 165/165/165
Back Squats 3 sets of 10 reps: 225/225/225
Vertical leg press on the smith machine 3 sets of 10 reps with the last having 3 negatives: 245/265/285
Alright during midset some old man in fitness center uniform walks up and asks if the gym bags were ours. We say yes and then he says they have to be in the locker room. When Ben asks why he says "because if everyone brought a gym bag then people would be tripping all the time." So of course Ben asks about what about are equipment belts, straps, fat gripz, etc. Apparently it is fine to bring a draw string bag or a book bag but not a legitimate gym bag.
So Ben got pretty pissed and doesnt want to go there anyway. It isnt the first time they have complained about stuff. Plus they are HORRIBLE about keeping up the place. They got beige colored floors so they wouldnt have to clean them. The floor is very slick considering it is a place you are supposed to be working out.
What got to me was when I told another guy who lifts there that they said something about not being able to bring a gym bag. He was like well why do you need a gym bag. Pretty facking sad when you dont question anything stupid being done. What is bad is they actually bought stuff that competitive people could use but then they dont want them there.
Anyway back to the workout
Seated leg curls PSR(Elect sets of 3 reps with no rest) 2 sets of these at 85/130/160/190/220
Lying leg curls 2 sets of 10 plus 3 negatives 110 and 125
Stiff leg deadlifts 3 sets of 10 reps 235/235/235
It ended up being quite a good workout. Just was annoying there in the middle. Seems like I will be back to lifting solo. Should cut down on workout time though.
11-19-2012, 09:30 PM
Gota love dumb ass gyms... hahaha. Nice leg work, I had a mean leg workout tonight too.
11-20-2012, 07:53 PM
Chest with a widdle guy(150 pounds)
Flat DB press 3 sets of 10 reps 90/90/90 their DBs only go up to 100 pounds :/
Incline BB 3 sets of 10 reps with the last set having 3 negatives 185/185/185
Decline BB 3 sets of 10 reps with the last set having 3 negatives 225/225/225
DB pullover 3 sets of 10 reps 70/70/70
BB curls PSR 2 sets 5*3 with a drop on the 2nd set 50/70/90/100/110 drop to 80 for 6 reps
BB preach curls 3 sets of 10 reps with the last set having 2 negatives 65/65/65 I hate my weak biceps haha
Standing 1 arm DB concentration curls 2 sets of 8 reps 30/30
I decided to go ahead and accept the logging opportunity. I plan on keeping this log going though. Still think people can learn a little bit.
11-21-2012, 08:36 AM
Not sure when they are sending the bottle but probably around the end of the month. I know I can make natty gains so it will be interesting to see how CBL does on cycle. Something I have been curious about lately.
Also want to mention about the supplements I have been taking. Obviously I went ahead and stopped taking them haha. I really think they will come in handy. Which is why I am going to take them during my PCT. Both Prometheus Rising and Primal Male have ingredients that should help in PCT. Which brings me to Clout I think I am just going to keep running this and pick up more for my cycle and PCT. Will only be using it on training days though. Will make the bottle last longer since I will be training 5 days a week. Plus I am still taking my over the top creatine monohydrate doses.
11-21-2012, 10:45 AM
11-21-2012, 08:04 PM
1-Push press ELECT 4 sets of 10 reps just used 140 for 10 reps the whole time
2-Seated military press 2 sets of 10 reps then 1 set of 10 reps plus 3 negatives used 160 for the 1st 2 sets and then dropped to 155. It was a bit rough. Trying to cut down rest times.
3-BB half upright rows 2 sets of 10 reps then 1 set 10 reps plus 3 negatives. I used 110 again and it worked well. Will be upping weight next time.
4-Seated side laterals PSR(which is basically 1 long ELECT set[updated way to say it] broken up by weight increases). 1 set of 6/4/3/3/3 reps the weight was 15/20/25/30/35 then drop to 25 and repped it 6 times. These reps were much better than last time.
5-BB shrugs 1 set 10 reps then 2 sets of 10 reps plus 3 negatives I used 275 again. I used chalk this time and it was much better. Still hard to really rep it like I would like. Want to really pull it back instead of just up.
6-Weighted dips with a drop set 3 sets of less than or equal to 10 reps plus 3 reps. 45 pounds again and when I did the drop set I just took the dip belt off and did 3 bodyweight reps. I did 10/9/8 reps for the weighted portion.
7-Overhead DB triceps ext 1 set of 10 reps then 1 set of 10 reps plus 3 negatives. 1st set I decided to use 95 without a spot. Then did 100 with a spot. The 100 set felt so easy I decided to do 11 reps and then 3 negatives. I even asked the spotter if he helped haha.
It ended up being a really good workout. Took a little longer than I would have liked considering I was solo. Just hard to pull someone away for a spot on the negatives. With that said it is definitely worth it.
I am considering taking a deload week next week. Might be a good idea before I hit it hard for my cycle. My shoulders have felt particularly tender to the touch. They dont hurt when I lift and actually feel quite good right now. Just something that has caught my eye. Trying to be more conscious of what my body is trying to tell me.
11-21-2012, 09:10 PM
What would you say the best supplement to go on right now would be, on a budget. I barely make anything working during the school, When I am home for winter break and summer I have my old jobs still, and I might be doing a short run of wrangler parts with a friend this summer for some fast cash, but for now I have to be careful what I spend, especially with Christmas here. I was considering: Natadrol->formadrol, anabeta/erase stack, Ghenerate+natadrol, or Ghenerate + erase to try and lean up. But the more I think about it I just wana gain weight, and I got big like crazy when I was doing Ghenerate+ natadrol then finished with formadrol like two years ago. Plus they are cheap as hell. I respond crazy to natadrol. I just don't want to supp up right now due to still having some back issues. I feel like I won't make use of them to the fullest extent.
oh and btw 220 w10% and you will be a brick house bro. Get it.
11-22-2012, 11:18 AM
It is just a matter of time before you get back. You know you have done it before and can do it again. If I was going to pick from them I would go with Erase and Anabeta. But to be honest if money was an issue I would just stick to the basics and focus on diet. To be honest CBL has made the most improvement for me as of late. No supplement is going to compare to a solid diet protocol.
Would probably end up being more than 220. It is hard to think about losing that much weight haha. And to think I was considering 200 a viable option haha.
11-23-2012, 01:33 AM
I ended up going to lift around 11 something.
Decided to try and pull heavy. So I did my Shockwave Protocols set up:
Deadlifts 5 sets of 3 reps speed pulls 50%-70%
Bent over barbell rows PSR 95/145/195/225/255
Then came the hard part. The place was completely empty. Someone showed up so I asked them to record me. Might have been a mistake. Didnt get it but honestly I wasnt focused like I needed to be. It was just a feeling of being off. I think part of it was getting someone random to record me. Worrying that it wouldnt record instead of getting this heavy weight off the ground haha.
After that was feeling a bit crappy. Then this older lift showed up. Guy is 43 and puts most young guys to shame. Apparently he did some bodybuilding in his younger days when he was a marine. His legs are on the skinny side but you can tell he is strong and doesnt neglect them. Anyway got him to lift with me.
This is the 1st time post about this particular workout.
Close grip pulldowns 3 sets of 10 reps last set 3 negatives 14 whatever that means haha
Reverse grip bent over rows 3 sets of 10 reps last set 3 negatives 225
Pulldowns 2 sets of 10 reps not sure on weight
Pull ups wide grip 1 set AMAP plus 3 negatives At this point I couldnt do a single pull up. But I did do the 3 negatives.
Bent over side laterals 2 sets of 10 reps 25
Reverse pec deck 1 set of 10 reps plus 4 negatives 75
Prone incline front lateral ELECT 2 sets of 10 reps with 15 Did these wrong but oh well.
Ended up being a damn good workout. Took me a while to complete. Had a hell of a pump. Made sure I worked hard enough to kill some carbs for Thanksgiving. Hope everyone had a great day. Had a ton of turkey, stuffing, and sweet potato casserole. Then later some pie. Then fruity pebbles and raspberry sorbet haha.
For some enertainment
11-23-2012, 01:53 PM
Dude you would be nasty cut if you got to 200.... lol
11-24-2012, 02:27 AM
200 is just too low for me haha. I dont think I could go back. At least not walking around kind of weight.
I woke up dry as hell this morning. Felt damn good to be honest. The only thing was I was so thirsty. Always wake up so thirsty after Carb Back Loading. Will see how I wake up tomorrow. I do feel really full(muscle wise). Feels like my shirts are tighter in a good way. Anxious to go lift tomorrow. Ended up taking a good 3 hour nap earlier today.
11-24-2012, 05:00 PM
sounds like you have it planned out well. I wake up thirsty all the time no matter how much I drink. I finally got out of that cycle though and feel half hydrated in the mornings now even though I drink all day.
11-24-2012, 10:43 PM
The only thing now is what kind of routine I want to run. Considering doing a bit of a hybrid. It is so hard to decide haha. I havent done a 6 day routine in a LONG time but I am considering it. Or maybe what I might do is a 7 workout rotation and just rest as needed. Doing the 4 day hypertrophy workout and then modified Shockwave protocols where I do back, chest/shoulder, and legs. It would take me probably 9 days to go through it though.
Edit: I will post about my workout later.
11-24-2012, 10:53 PM
Whats funny is I am one of those guys who either can't or won't do a "routine". I feel like I have learned over the years what my body needs. Instead of sticking to a plan and letting weakness go by unaddressed, I constantly make changes as my body tells me.
The rest as needed thing sounds good. Currently I do something that is a legit program, forget what it is called though.
3 days - chest, back, leg. sometimes put an arm day in if I don't need a rest day. I rest on days when I need to, it's collage. I can't pick and choose.
I do high rep, mid rep, and low rep. I did 8 weeks of this with lots of volume. I have recently (last week) switched to working out everyday I can through my rotation, with less volume, but more intensity and slightly higher rest periods. Sorta power training oriented.
Unorthodox, but I have never stalled, and always see gains.
Those sound pretty sweet. I get to the point where I hear so many different workouts from different people with different goals half of them blurr together.
11-24-2012, 11:45 PM
Alright decided to do the same workout as last Saturday. The chest and shoulders shockwave protocols. It was pretty much the exact same thing. Didnt change the weights.
Incline BB ELECT sets of 3 reps with short rest between
135/165/195/215/235 immediately after 235 set dropped to 185 and repped it out 14 times
Decline BB ELECT sets of 3 reps with short rest between.
185/215/245/275/305 immediately after 305 drop to 245 and repped it 9 times. This wasnt so easy haha.
Seated BB ELECT sets of 3 reps with short rest between
105/125/145/165/185 immediately after 185 drop to 145 and repped it 14 times
Upright rows cable ELECT sets of 3 reps no break between sets
7/10/13/15/16 drop to 13 and repped it 9 times
DB Lateral raise 3 sets of 10 reps with 45s first set then 40s
There were a few changes. Hit an extra rep here and there. Plus I changed the upright row cable ELECT. It was 5 sets instead of 6. Allowed me to do better reps.
Like last time I felt HUGE. This time though I felt like I was much leaner. There were veins going crazy. Really wish I would have taken a pic. Couldnt help but do a little flexing in the locker room. Makes me said I didnt get a pic. But what it did do was made me realize I have to find a way to get some pics taken.
11-25-2012, 01:42 PM
11-26-2012, 10:25 PM
First day back at the maintance job. Talked to the director and apparently they asked for me by name. They have an opening and want to know if I would be interested. So it looks like after 6 weeks I might be hired on there. This is much more laid back. Pretty much go do work and if it doesnt get done they will know. Plus expectations are too high because of the last guy.
Anyway on to my workout. Decided to keep the weights the same for the most part. Walking around in steel toe boots all day sucks.
Front squat 3 sets of 12 reps with 165
Back squats 3 sets of 10 reps with 225
Leg press 3 sets of 10 reps with 3 negatives on last set with 540. Different leg press this time.
Leg extensions 7 sets of 10 reps ala FST-7 with 100 pounds. Probably rested a little too long between sets.
Seated leg curls 2 sets of PSR 90/135/165/195/220
Lying leg curls 2 sets of 10 reps plus 3 negatives with 125
Stiff leg deadlifts 3 sets of 10 with 235
Seated calf raise 100 reps afap sets with 45 pounds
Standing calf press 2 sets of 10 reps with 360
Didnt take music with me today but it was in my head haha. Pretty sure I had a few moments where I looked crazy. Speaking of which I took Craze plus 200mg of caffeine(pill form). Got some looks from people particularly some girls. Not sure if it was for a good or bad reason haha. Going to be sore as hell tomorrow.
11-27-2012, 07:33 AM
11-28-2012, 03:17 PM
11-28-2012, 03:48 PM
That is pretty much stand protocol for preworkout for me now. Usually I do a cup of coffee and Craze or some other preworkout. My cups of coffee are made with a scoop from a protein tub.Originally Posted by VolcomX311
It is only 1 scoop of Craze. Well a little more than a scoop.
I don't have too much trouble sleeping. Just a matter of getting into bed. I wouldn't mind trying some GHB though haha.
11-28-2012, 04:45 PM
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