Jordan's go at a 3 month Cyclical Ketogenic Diet.

[StackedCop]

Natural. I have never used anabolics before. Just like anyone who hasn't I have thought about it often but never ever did. I competed in a drug tested powerlifting federation so I didnt consider it then at all. Now I got the itch. haha. I still wont though. How about you?

I think about it a lot lol but I prob never will....

But guys like you and me are just natty freaks and don't need juice!


Yet

[jlinteris]

I think about it a lot lol but I prob never will....

But guys like you and me are just natty freaks and don't need juice!


Yet

Haha, I just think how strong I have been at my best and how heavy I have been at my heaviest (284) and wonder what I would have been at if I started a full cycle like some of the guys on here. You are right though, we dont need it. From a lot of the logs I have seen we are doing A LOT better than most guys that are running gear constantly. Pretty cool to make out your potential. Since you are lean you would probably still have abs at 260+ if you ran a cycle... scary!

[StackedCop]

260 baby! Lol there's a bunch of guys at my gym that go on this crazy AAS cycles and bulk up from like 190 to 220 but there they don't know what pct is... So after their cycle they lose most of their gains and look like ****. Now i know guys that do proper pct and have a good off cycles and they keep most their gains but still... I know myself and i would never wanna come off and I would freak out if I gained mad strength and mass then lost any of it lol

I'll probable end up waiting till I'm like 45 and go on trt

[Gutterpump]

Haha looks like you are on top of your game. I just had to google all of the things you mentioned to find out what they even were. Only thing I didnt get clarification on was CJC. What is it?

Looks like your cutting cycle should be a little more effective than mine

CJC-1295 increases baseline GH, while the GHRP's cause a pulse. They work synergistically with each other.

Yeah I've only really started this stuff once I had to start TRT. I did a couple PH cycles in the past prior to TRT, with good pct's, always ending up back at my baseline which wasn't too great. My test was low normal and GH was low normal. I started test 2 years ago and just this year started a GH protocol. I figure a couple safe cycles a year now, done safely, won't do much harm since I'm already on for life.

[StackedCop]

CJC-1295 increases baseline GH, while the GHRP's cause a pulse. They work synergistically with each other.

Yeah I've only really started this stuff once I had to start TRT. I did a couple PH cycles in the past prior to TRT, with good pct's, always ending up back at my baseline which wasn't too great. My test was low normal and GH was low normal. I started test 2 years ago and just this year started a GH protocol. I figure a couple safe cycles a year now, done safely, won't do much harm since I'm already on for life.

Kinda sounds like my plan lol how old are you?

[Gutterpump]

33, had low-normal test since my 20s

[HondaV65]

33, had low-normal test since my 20s

What kind of "sides" do you have to deal with being on TRT? How does it change your life? I'd truely like to know - because I'm 49.

I've heard guys tell me that I should go in because the TRT will help me a great deal in continuing to pursue gains in the gym ...

Then I've had other guys tell me that I should hold out as long as possible - because the sides aren't worth it.

How do you feel on it?

[jlinteris]

Friday, March 11th.
BW 242

Back/Traps/Calves (Breaks kept to 60 seconds. Little longer for deadlifts)

*all pulldowns done perfectly strict*

Widegrip Pulldowns
220x10,10,10

Reverse grip Pulldowns
190x10
200x10
190x10

Narrowgrip Pulldowns
180x10,10,
210x8

Deadlifts- first time picking up anything in almost 5 weeks from injury
135x5- slow reps. Lower back felt tiiiiiiight
225x5
315x5
405x5- this was almost too much pressure on the injury site for the time being. Slow and steady to get some blood into the area. Next time lighter weight and more reps until I can start actually putting some power into my lift.

T-bar rows
3platesx10
4platesx10
4plates+25x7

Barbell shrugs
315x5
405x15,12,10

Standing calve raises
315x15
365x10
395 (stack)x8,8

Seated calve raise
4plates x 10,10,10,8

That was a haaaard workout. End of the week, completely carb depleted and challenging. Cool that the lat workouts are actually getting stronger as I move into this keto diet. I guess if I actually targetted lats previously they might have got stronger too, lol. Regardless, diet is going good, fat is coming off at a steady pace (only 2.5 weeks in) and everything is continuing to motivate me. Cant wait to see what the results will be after 3 months if I stick with it. Carb time!

Post workout shake
1L skim milk
1 large banana
1 large yoghurt puck
2 scoops of isolate protein powder
145g raisins (115g carbs by themselves!)

250g carbs
91g protein
5 g fat (must keep under 88g on bulking days)
1409 Calories.
I am pretty full. Need one more 250g of carb meal within a few hours then a full carb day tommorow. The possibilites are endless *licks lips*

[jlinteris]

Friday the 11th and Saturday the 12th.

Taking a different approach to the carb up this week. Rather than high carbs Friday and moderate carbs Saturday I decided to completely max out what I can eat in these two days. I mean like literally walk around so stuffed that I can barely breath. I am trying this for many different reasons. For one I am losing weight a little too quick for my liking and would like to slow it down a tad. I am going to see how long this keeps me out of Ketosis since I have a one day carb up and a friday and light Saturday carb up so I have 2 different things to compare too. Also will I supercompensate even more with gylcogen storage then I did before and have better weekly workouts? The absolute worst case scenario about doing this is that I am 3500 calories ahead each day and I gain a pound or two. Certainly not the end of the world as it just erases what I lost for the week and I learn that it doesnt work. I am going to modify the carb up weekly until I find what is great for me. A good idea of the calories I ate would be to say that I was 242 in the am on Friday, and 257.8 going to be on Saturday night +15.8 pounds. LOL. I woke up this Sunday am at 250.2 already and am back on the carbless diet. I honestly do not feel like writing out my carbup diet as I am not that energetic but I will say that a meal was some chicken and a full bag of baked french fries (2 pounds) and some skim milk. I was eating like this the whole time and often. I will really be monitoring the weekly weightloss, strength maintenance and final weight on Friday am and make my decision later in the week how hard to carb. I would guess from 1pm to night on friday I ate 1000+g and well over that Saturday. I looked pregnant last night before bed. haha

[jlinteris]

March 14th, 2011
BW 246.4

Obviously a little heavier from the insane weekend carbup but I will let the Friday a.m weigh in be my guage since it will be the most accurate.

Chest/Back 60 seconds rest between sets

Incline smith machine
135x2x10
205x10
225x10
255x10

Flat DB fly
50x10
60x10
70x8 (last time got to 50 barely for last set)

Incline fly
50x10
55x10
55x10

Weighted dip- drop set.
45x10 DROP BW x 5
30x10 DROP BW X7
15X10 DROP BW X 3

Narrow grip pull downs
180x10
210x10
190x10

Reverse grip pulldowns
180x10
190x10
200x8

Hammerstrength High rows
270x10
320x10
270x10

DB pullovers
100x10
100x10
100x10

DB shrugs
160's x 20,20,20.

Pretty awesome workout for carb free. There is one of two things happening here. The heavy weekend carbup made for the strength increase over the previous week or my body is addapting to the higher volume better. Weight handled was higher today, I did more sets with the heavier weight and I even got more reps with the heavier weight on some excercises. Now to see if I am sore for 5 days like last time. Touching my chest was insanely tender last week. Cant remember the last time I was that wrecked. Legs day tommorow. Can't wait!

[jlinteris]

Tuesday
BW 243.6. Low for the crazy carb weekend I had. Looks like the pig mentality for the weekend is a go! Curious to see what Friday brings.

Leg extensions
Stack 285#
x12,12,12 added 2 reps per set from last week

Squats
135x2x5
225x5
315x10
365x10 Happy!
405x5. Didnt push it tooo hard since this was my first time with 405 on my back in 6 weeks since the injury. Everything is progressing nicely.

Leg press
7ppsx10
8ppsx10,10

Hacksquats- back didnt like it so I did step ups instead
Bench step ups with dumbbells
40's x 10
100's x 5,5 ha hard.

Reverse hacksquat
180x10
270x10
320x10
360x10

Lying leg curl
120x10
130x10
120x10
120x8

1 leg curl
110x10
100x10

SLDL- skipped. Back isnt ready for that motion

Fried! That was a fast pased, insane volume session. Tommorow is going to equal some sore as legs. Very happy to be 3.5 weeks into this keto diet and getting stronger as I go. Lets normally are the first thing to go when I diet and they feel powerful right now.

[StackedCop]

I've been meaning to try step ups... Glad the backs getting better!

[jlinteris]

I've been meaning to try step ups... Glad the backs getting better!

Thanks, man. Honestly... as ridiculous as step ups look, they are super challenging. Especially after squats. Using the 100 pound dumbbells plus my bodyweight (245) + (200 for the dumbbells) for 445 pounds per leg. When you put it into perspective like that it really shows how much heavy isolation work you can do.

[jlinteris]

Wednesday
BW 243.6 unchanged from yesterday

Core

Upper cable woodchops (L+R)
45x15
60x12
75x9
45x15

Kneeling cable crunches
75x20
105x20
135x10
160x8

Hanging knee raises
x20,16,12

DB side crunches
100's x 10
100's x 8

Good enough. Abs/serratus are dead after that. Those woodchoppers are a pretty brutal excercise when completed strict and heavy. No cardio today as I have done a lot this month. Plan is for the first month to lose with the keto, 2nd month to add cardio and month 3 add a ECA stack x3 daily. This was I should hopefully stay moving on the goal.

[StackedCop]

That's more ab work then I've done all month, lol what you using for eca?

[jlinteris]

That's more ab work then I've done all month, lol what you using for eca?

Haha yeah it is quite a lot. My workout plan has marathon workouts and tommorows is long with a ****load of abs at the end so I go in on my off day and get it out of the way. For E.C.A. I will use 24mg ephedrine, 225mg caffiene and a, 84 mg aspirin. Probably go week on/off with it depending on my sleep schedule. I have used it years ago like that with really good results.

[jlinteris]

Here is my go at the Egg eating contest for redefine nutrition.

REDEFINE NUTRITON Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Trivia.... It is near the bottom of the thread in video form.

[jlinteris]

March 17th, 2011
BW 242.4

Tommorow I need to be under 242.0 to be lighter than my Friday am weigh in from last week. If this does not happen then the monster 2 day carb a thon is done. I will then move to 80% of what I was consuming carb-wise and try that.... so roughly 800g per day.

Shoulders/Triceps/Biceps (60 seconds max rest between sets)
PR'S represent this keto diet only, not lifetime or anything.

Military smith machine
135x10
185x10
205x10
225x10 pr!

Front DB raise
35x10
35x10

Side laterals- Triple dropset x10,10,10
40,35,20
35,25,15
30,20,10

Rear delt on pec dec
165x10
185x10
185x10 Only got 1 set with this last time

OH rope extensions (use different system than Punthra- his 150=80 on my system)
80x10,10
70x10

Reverse grip bench
145x10
185x10
235x8 PR

Pressdowns- DROP SET
225x10,135x10
235x10,135x10

Narrowgrip ex curl
90x10
110x10
90x10

Hammer curls
55x10
60x10

Seated dumbbell curl- DROP SET
40X10,20X10
40X10,20X10

Done. Strength is really increasing all of the sudden and the diet seems to be spot on. I guess I am just getting used to the high volume thrashings and the body has adapted. I have no clue. Either way I will take it. The glycogen restrictions are really wierd. Last workout my right arm was completely vascular and my left was flat. Today my left was veiny as **** and my right was flat. Body is storing whatever it can get in random areas it seems. haha. Back/traps tommorow and carb time!

[jlinteris]

March 18th
BW 241.8 -.2lb since last Friday. This goes to show that while eating a maximum ammount of carbohydrates still yeilds a loss at the end of the week, this was not acceptable for what I am trying to accomplish. A few things worth nothing 1)Strength was increasing throughout this week 2)Bodyweight pretty well plateaued midweek 3)Felt like some fat was added on Monday am. With the results I have to go by for the nearly 4 weeks I am on it I think I am close to coming up with the perfect range to use for me. I am going to go from 1000g/carbs on Friday/Saturday to 800g/carbs each day and see how my strength is, weight moves and general feeling of well being. This drop of a total of 400g carbs over the weekend will be the big move. If more reduction is needed then they will be applied weekly by reducing 100g carbs per time.

Back/Traps/Calves
Wide grip pulldowns
210x10
220x10
230x10

Narrowgrip pulldowns
180x10
190x10

Reverse grip pulldowns
180x10
190x10
220x8

Deadlifts
225x10
315x10
405x14 only got 4 last week! Back is improving. Still tight as **** thougH

Cable pullover triple drop set.
170x10,140x10,110x10

Barbell shrugs
315x5
455x10
505x8
455x10

Standing calve raise
295x15
335x10
395x8,8

Seated calve raise
4p x 10,10,10,8

Post workout shake. Start of the carb up
2 cups raspberry juice
2 bananas
1 cup mixed fruit
Large yoghurt puck
2 scopps isolate protein
155g carbs.

Everything was easily the strongest it has been on this keto diet. The only thing that hampered me at all today was the preworkout I took. Made me feel like puking the whole time. Felt absolutely gross... especially on the deadlifts. Possible cardio tommorow. If not then the weekend off to rest up.

[Nolanaf67]

What preworkout did you decide to go with? I noticed that it made you feel sick lol.