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    Love to see new PRs on squats. When that happens, you know your working hard! Keep working on that squat, more than likly when you see a big dude, he's got a bigger squat!
    way to do work

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    Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    Looking good man, I like the focus there...I would go for a PR lol o.O
    Haha I considered it. But knew id only be able to knock maybe 6 out at best so thats not optimal for my goal on this workout.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo14 View Post
    Love to see new PRs on squats. When that happens, you know your working hard! Keep working on that squat, more than likly when you see a big dude, he's got a bigger squat!
    way to do work
    I measured my quads.... They were 22" precycle... 23.5" already! woah!
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    H Drol Cycle: Day 13 - (Overall: 27 days)
    Diet

    The hell if I remember.... It was around 3500 cals though.
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    Sorry for not updating this yesterday. Was too lazy to log all my macros, but I did of course log my workout.

    DB Shoulder Press Supersetted with DB Front Raise
    1 set Sh. Press, then set of front raise and repeat
    Shoulder Press
    40 x 12 (warmup)
    60 x 10 x 2 (Did 8 reps here last week)
    65 x 8 (PR) - (Did 60 x 6 here last week)
    All 3 sets were super easy to get up, unassisted.
    Front Raise
    30 x 10 x 3 (Same as last week, had an incredible pump in my shoulders and delts)

    DB 1 Arm Bent Over Over Supersetted with DB Arnold Shoulder press
    DB 1 arm Bent over row
    70 x 10
    75 x 10
    80 x 10
    DB Arnold Shoulder Press
    35 x 10 x 2
    40 x 8 (PR) - I had 10 in me, but shoulders were pretty fried already.

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown
    135 x 10
    150 x 8
    160 x 8
    Increased the 2nd and 3rd set by 5 lbs this week from last

    DB Shrugs
    Just 2 sets this week. A set with a drop set
    90 x 10
    Dropset to
    70 x 10

    T Bar Row
    90 x 10 x 2

    Close Grip (Palms Facing In) Lat pulldown Supersetted with EZ bar Upright Rows
    CG Lat PD
    Increase of 5 lbs all 3 sets this week.
    125 x 10
    135 x 10
    145 x 10
    Ez bar Upright Rows
    60 x 8 x 3

    Rear Delt Machine
    85 x 10 x 2

    I also took my first ever ice bath yesterday. Ice Baths are soooooo rejuvenating!
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    H Drol Cycle: Day 14 - (Overall: 28 days)

    Diet

    Upon Waking up:
    2 Scoops ON Whey (240 Cals)
    8 Ounces Skim Milk (80 Cals)
    1 Banana (120 Cals)
    1 Cup Strawberries (50 Cals)
    Calories: 490

    Meal 1:
    Protein Pancakes:
    1 Cup oats (280 Cals)
    3/4 Banana (90 Cals)
    3 Egg White, and 1 Egg (125 Cals)
    1/2 Scoop Allmax Whey (55 Cals)
    1.5 Tbsp Honey - 90 Cals
    Calories: 640

    Pre Workout:
    1 Scoops ON Whey Protein Shake (120 Cals)
    Calories: 120

    Post workout:
    Ergogenix Aftermath Blue Raspberry PWO Shake (153 Cals)
    Mini protein Bar (90 Cals)
    Calories: 243

    30 Mins Post Workout:
    10 ounces Pan Fried Tilapia (350 Cals)
    Nuts and Raisins (150 Cals)
    Calories: 500

    Meal:
    400 Cal Chicken and Ham Sandwich
    Calories: 400

    Dinner:
    Mushroom Soup (100 Cals)
    Chicken Sandwich (350 Cals)
    Calories: 450

    2nd Dinner:
    Clif Bar (240 Cals)
    1/2 Chicken Sandwich (225 Cals)
    Calories: 465

    Presleep:
    1 Scoop ON Casein (120 Cals)
    Calories: 120

    Total: 3428

    Water Intake today: 200 Ounces - Doesn't include water intake at the gym
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    Left workout a little early at the end. had pretty intense back pumps. Last week I had them but they were worse this week. Lasted about 20-30 mins post workout. I only had 60 ounces of water before I hit the gym today so maybe that was the issue? Dunno. Fuking killer though.

    Hack Squats Supersetted with Seated Calf Raise
    1 set Hack Squat then go do seated calf raises. 1 Minute break and repeat.
    Hack Squat
    140 x 10 (warmup)
    200 x 10
    220 x 10
    250 x 8 (PR)
    Seated Calf Raise - No Bounce, slow controlled reps.
    180 x 12
    225 x 12 x 2

    Leg Extensions supersetted with Lying Leg Curls
    Leg X
    285 x 12 x 3 (Machine max)
    Lying Leg Curls
    120 x 10 x 3

    Leg press supersetted with Calf Raises on the leg press
    Leg press - Knees to Chest
    6 plates x 10
    Calf Raises
    6 plates x 12

    As stated, I didnt finish this out. Back pumps were a bit too much. Plus I was pretty gassed at this point.
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    Not enough water could def. be the reason your back pumps are worse. water, potassium and taurine should take care of it, if not well. thats very odd, it cures most peoples.
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    Too sleepy. Diet not logged. Memorial Day = Ribs, Corn on the cobb, pork, beef, felt good man.


    H Drol Cycle: Day 15 - (Overall: 29 days)
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    Flat Dumbbell Bench
    75 x 10
    80 x 8
    85 x 6 (PR)
    90 x 3 (PR) - Probably shouldnt have gone for the 90's but I wanted to see if I could do it. Was actually surprised to push them up. Felt really good

    Shoulder Dumbbell Press
    50 x 10
    60 x 6 x 3
    65 x FAIL
    Ok, I went to a new gym. The seats had the straight back, but the actual seat portion like curved upwards. Making my posture very awkward. I felt as if I was gonna fall off the front and lose my balance the entire time. I dont think strength was down, I blame the seats and I think they may've gotten to me as well.

    Bent Over Barbell Rows
    No back pumps today. had them yesterday. Weird. The back pumps also only happen in my lower back, so maybe its only when i work my lower back? Dunno.
    135 x 8
    155 x 6
    165 x 6 (PR)
    175 x 6 (PR)

    Barbell Shrugs
    175 x 8 x 5

    Wide Grip Pullups
    Assisted, 2 sets of 10. Hang at the bottom, all the way to the top as far as its possible to go without doing a powerup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShayZ View Post
    No back pumps today. had them yesterday. Weird. The back pumps also only happen in my lower back, so maybe its only when i work my lower back? Dunno.
    I'm not sure, so dont quote me but Back pumps i think have something to do with the kidneys and the water that develops around them.
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    What's your weight sitting at now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    What's your weight sitting at now?
    Still 179

    Lifts shooting up, but I dunno if Im eating enough. Stable weight likely means fat loss and muscle gained though as my lifts are all increased.
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    yeah man ive noticed once you get used to a certian gym and their style of equipment, going to a new one can make some lifts feel akward. Nice log. cant wait to see the after pics. I did a Mdrol cycle a year ago and it made a huge differance. I might try this depending on how yours turns out.
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    H Drol Cycle: Day 17 - (Overall: 31 days)

    Diet

    Upon Waking up:
    1.25 Scoops ON Whey (150 Cals)
    6 Ounces Skim Milk (60 Cals)
    1 Banana (120 Cals)
    1 Cup Strawberries (50 Cals)
    Calories: 380

    Meal 1:
    2 Slices Double Fiber Wheat bread (100 Cals)
    2 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter (200 Cals)
    Sugar Free Jelly (25 Cals)
    Rice Cakes (100 Cals)
    Calories: 425

    Meal 2:
    Clif Bar (240 Cals)
    Chik Fil A Sanwich on Wheat (450 Cals)
    Calories: 690

    Meal 3:
    2 Eggs, 2 Slices Whole Wheat Toast, 1 Slice 2% Cheese - 400 Cals
    Calories: 400

    Meal 4:
    Tandoori Chicken (300 Cals)
    Calories: 300

    Pre Workout:
    1 Scoops ON HydroWhey Protein Shake (140 Cals)
    Calories: 140

    Post workout:
    Ergogenix Aftermath Blue Raspberry PWO Shake (153 Cals)
    Banana (110 Cals)
    Calories: 263

    Dinner:
    1 Cup of Brown Rice (220 Cals)
    Rice Cakes (100 Cals)
    1/3 Chicken (400 Cals)
    Calories: 720

    Presleep:
    1 Scoop ON Casein Cookies n Cream (120 cals)
    8 Ounces Skim Milk (80 Cals)
    Calories: 200

    Total: 3518

    Water Intake today: 200 Ounces - Doesn't include water intake at the gym
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    Power Up Legs! Some PR's, but Squats was more of a form workout. I was working out with sword_ from the other forum I visit, and he was showing me some things and giving me tips on my deadlifts and squats. Dude squats 445 for reps, and deadlifts 550+

    Barbell Squats
    135 x 10
    205 x 6
    215 x 5
    225 x 5 x 3 (PR)
    Could've hit 235, maybe more, but as I said, form technique was key.

    Deadlifts
    135 x 10
    225 x 5
    245 x 5
    265 x 5 (PR)
    275 x 5 (PR)
    Could've gone for 295 here. Sword_ told me my form was really good, felt damn good coming from a guy who deadlifts 560+

    Seated Calf Raise
    180 x 10
    225 x 10
    270 x 8
    225 x 8 x 2

    Did Pull Thrus, no idea on weight. Sword was showing me how to do them, I think I did em wrong.

    Lying Leg Curl
    135 x 10 x 2 (PR)
    150 x 10 x 2 (PR)

    No cardio today =/
    Wanted to walk my dogs but it rained all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShayZ View Post
    Still 179

    Lifts shooting up, but I dunno if Im eating enough. Stable weight likely means fat loss and muscle gained though as my lifts are all increased.
    Damn man. Do you see a difference in your physique at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Damn man. Do you see a difference in your physique at all?
    Not to speak for Shay, but we were talking on another thread about recomp effects he's experiencing.
    I feel someone who has a higher BF on any hormonal agent is going to lose BF (unless the cal. intake is incredibly high)
    To each his own, but I can't figure out how this is bad, stronger with less BF is generally the overall goal for most of us.
    I feel that thinking because there isn't a major difference in the scale the cycle was a failure is wrong, I feel it should matter more in the weight you put up, and how you look in the mirror with scale weight simply as a way to keep information about the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Damn man. Do you see a difference in your physique at all?
    Chest seems a lot fuller.
    I also measured everything.
    Chest, arms, quads all are bigger. Waist at hips and waist at belly is the exact same. So I have definitely LOST fat and gained muscle.

    Regardless, I was 182 this morning actually, so I have gained weight now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo14 View Post
    Not to speak for Shay, but we were talking on another thread about recomp effects he's experiencing.
    I feel someone who has a higher BF on any hormonal agent is going to lose BF (unless the cal. intake is incredibly high)
    To each his own, but I can't figure out how this is bad, stronger with less BF is generally the overall goal for most of us.
    I feel that thinking because there isn't a major difference in the scale the cycle was a failure is wrong, I feel it should matter more in the weight you put up, and how you look in the mirror with scale weight simply as a way to keep information about the cycle.
    Yep, explained it above.
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    Side note. i got more blood test done today. Should have the results tomorrow.

    Im expecting to see a complete crash of my testosterone. Any guesses? Im going with 75 haha.

    Also interested in seeing my liver levels and RBC, wbc, and platelet counts.
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    H Drol Cycle: Day 18 - (Overall: 32 days)

    Diet
    Dunno,
    was 1900 thru to dinner. Then we went to Red Lobster. I ate maybe 1/3 of my food, but Im still sure with eating 1.5 cheddar biscuits I pushed 1200 cals there as their cheddar biscuits are 300 cals each!

    Water Intake: 200 Ounces - Does not Include Water Intake at the gym
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    Shoulder was fine this week! YAY! It had bothered me the past few weeks on this exact workout today and no issues today, knock on wood

    DB Incline Chest Press
    40 x 15 (warm up)
    70 x 10
    75 x 8 x 2 (PR) - A PR on hypertrophy day, very nice! Coulda easily pushed the 80's up, but didn't think I'd get more than 6 reps out of them.

    Preacher Curls SuperSetted with Skullcrushers.
    Ok, So I did 1 set of preacher curls andimmediately went to a bench and did skllcrushers. Did this for all 3 sets.
    Same #'s as last week. Didn't really try to increase here
    Preacher Curl
    70 x 10 x 3
    Skullcrushers
    70 x 8 x 3

    Supinating 1 Arm Seated Alternating Curls
    35 x 8 x 2
    35 x 6

    Barbell Flat Bench
    Well... I haven't gone to a flat bench except once for a warm up set in the past 2 months or so. So I had no idea what weight to do here...
    135 x 10
    155 x 8
    175 x 6
    Little lower than expected especially since I can push 90 lb DB's now, but meh.

    Tricep Pushdown Supersetted with DB Hammer Curls
    Tricep Pushdowns - New Gym/New Machine.
    75 x 10 x 2
    Dumbbell Hammer Curls
    35 x 10 x 2

    Incline Curls
    30 x 10 x 2
    30 x 8

    Dips
    3 Sets Bodyweight
    10, 10, 10

    Reverse Curls
    40 x 10
    Stopped, felt weird.

    Cardio was just a 25 minute walk with my dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    How did the blood test results go?
    Since I dont have 50 post yet I cant link images and Im too lazy to upload em... Actually fuk it, here ya go one sec. Lol.

    Test SHOT WAYYYYY DOWN. Estrogen Shot way up. Liver levels quite elevated. Everything else normal.

    Ill go grab some extra liver support today. But, Ive where the ALT for some people went as high as 200 in 4 week cycles, so im not overly concerned.

    Im not a drinker, so my liver is just working harder than it ever has really.
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    no comments on my blood test?
    What do you guys think of my liver levels... 4x baseline. Its got me a little worried. I think Ill likely cut the cycle short to 4 weeks not 5.

    Still feeling 100% fine though, I just am too worried of liver failure.
    I went and bought some Liv 52 though.
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    No Sides at all
    I feel fine, but due to high AST and ALT levels I will stop this cycle at 4 weeks. I think it hit me early anyhow as gains are starting to taper down. Weight is shooting up though. I was 186 this morning! Holy smokes! Waist 35", so just .5" increase in the waist in 13 pounds...
    Appetite still good, Libidio still good, no headaches, no lethargy, no shut down. Perfectly fine, KNOCK ON WOOD!

    I spoke to my mom about AST and ALT levels and she says the 50 and 100 aren't too alarming, especially with a normal biliburin level. She said if bili levels hit 4 or higher thats liver issues.

    So i did my own research and found ZERO people with post anywhere who had liver damage from a 4-6 week H Drol cycle. I did see a number with liver shutdown from 4-6 week mdrol, s drol cycles. All had Bili lvels in the 8 all the way upto 40+!!!! their AST and ALT levels were also 250-450+. All recovered just fine by the way.

    I keep checking for any liver damage signs like yellowing of the skin, dark urine, pain in abdomen, and all seems fine. So i likely should go 5 weeks, but I just dont wanna risk it. I've gained 13 lbs, and will likely end at 15+ lbs in 4 weeks with minimal if any fat gain so Im fairly content.
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    H Drol Cycle: Day 20 - (Overall: 34 days)
    Diet

    Didn't Log. Went to a graduation party. Ate clean all day, party a little dirty. Nothing horrible though
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    DB Shoulder Press Supersetted with DB Front Raise
    1 set Sh. Press, then set of front raise and repeat
    Shoulder Press
    40 x 12 (warmup)
    60 x 10
    65 x 8
    65 x 6
    All 3 sets were super easy to get up, unassisted.
    Front Raise
    30 x 10 x 3

    DB 1 Arm Bent Over Over Supersetted with DB Arnold Shoulder press
    DB 1 arm Bent over row
    70 x 10
    75 x 10
    80 x 10
    DB Arnold Shoulder Press
    40 x 10 x 2 (done easily, did 8 reps last week)
    45 x 6 (PR)

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown
    Increase of 5 pounds per set here.
    140 x 10
    155 x 8
    165 x 8

    DB Shrugs
    3 Dropsets in a row
    90 x 10
    80 x 10
    70 x 10

    Close Grip (Palms Facing In) Lat pulldown Supersetted with EZ bar Upright Rows
    CG Lat PD
    Increase of 5 lbs all 3 sets this week.
    130 x 10
    140 x 10
    150 x 10
    Ez bar Upright Rows
    60 x 10 x 3

    Rear Delt Machine
    85 x 10 x 2

    Low Pulley Row
    SIX Drop sets in a row!
    150 x 10
    135 x 10
    105 x 10
    90 x 10
    75 x 10
    60 x 10


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    H Drol Cycle: Day 21 - (Overall: 35 days)

    Diet

    Pretty damn clean all day. Logged it until dinner, then just got lazy.

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    I stubbed my big toe really bad Friday at paintball and the nails likely going to come off. it's damn loose, and bleeds a little.
    Due to this, I didn't take it very intensely. I took it light and stuck to movements which wouldnt put pressure on my toe, and no calf excercises obviously.

    Hack Squats
    90 x 10
    180 x 10 x 3

    Step Ups
    35 Lb DB each hand x 10 x 3

    Leg Extension
    285 x 12 x 3

    Hip Abductor
    305 x 10 x 3

    Hip Adductor
    305 x 10 x 3
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    Switching the routine up a bit for Monday and Wednesday
    Instead of a 5 x 5 routine Im going to a 8 x 3 routine.
    Layne Norton does a 10 sets by 3 reps routine for his power up days, so Ill switch to that similarly.
    Also when i worked out with sword_ last week he did a 8 x 2 routine, and dudes strong as phuck!
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    Good evening Shayz. Were, or are you still taking cycle assist ? I saw your bloodwork results, which are very comperable to mine. My test levels were lowered to 142. / AST 55 / ALT 79 and Bilirubin is 0.2. I compared the both of our bloodwork results are our numbers are not to far off from eachother. I dont know how to post my work or i would proudly display them.

    The question for the cycle assist is because I never used it during my cycle of M1,4ADD for 4 weeks and then Superdrone LV for two weeks after, making for a six week cycle.

    GOD i loved the gains!!!!!! And i still have a several month supply, but am also holding up until i can bring my liver back to normal. If you were using cycle assist, and i was not, yet we have the near same blood results, should in theory cycle assist can be questioned? Im just wondering because I nearly purchased 2 of the 240caps bottles. Any thought please!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 762mm View Post
    Good evening Shayz. Were, or are you still taking cycle assist ? I saw your bloodwork results, which are very comperable to mine. My test levels were lowered to 142. / AST 55 / ALT 79 and Bilirubin is 0.2. I compared the both of our bloodwork results are our numbers are not to far off from eachother. I dont know how to post my work or i would proudly display them.

    The question for the cycle assist is because I never used it during my cycle of M1,4ADD for 4 weeks and then Superdrone LV for two weeks after, making for a six week cycle.

    GOD i loved the gains!!!!!! And i still have a several month supply, but am also holding up until i can bring my liver back to normal. If you were using cycle assist, and i was not, yet we have the near same blood results, should in theory cycle assist can be questioned? Im just wondering because I nearly purchased 2 of the 240caps bottles. Any thought please!!

    Thanks and Good Day !
    When was your bloodwork done into the cycle? Was that 2.5 weeks in as well or at the end?

    I am still taking 8 pills a day of cycle assist

    Everyones different though. Cycle assist is for liver, acne, blood pressure, etc. Not just for liver care.
    I will agree though, I dont think its worked as well as I had hoped. I have bought some Himalaya Livercare and been using it since Saturday. Ill get blood test a week after cycles over, so we'll see if that worked better.


    You also used much stronger PH's than me, so you've got a good liver it looks lol.
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    Good Morning ShayZ!
    I had my blood work done at the last day of my cycle. My blood pressure was is great standings, and acne? Well i have always had moderate to heavy acne since I was 13, and being now 32, I just dont worry about acne anymore, but it was the liver helping agent in cycle assist that drew me to it. Please let me know how that Himalaya Livercare works out. I am overzealous to start another cycle, but will be wise about it for sure. I have also been looking into a product called Liv-R Clear (spelled just in that way) and curious about that product.

    I would love to find a great liver protectant !!
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    H Drol Cycle: Day 22 - (Overall: 36 days)

    Diet
    Strawberries (50 Cals)
    Banana (120 Cals)
    1.5 Scoops Allmax Whey (165 Cals)
    8 Ounces milk (80 Cals)
    Calories: 415

    Protein Pancakes
    2 Eggs (140 Cals)
    1 Cup of Rolled Oats (300 Cals)
    1 Banana (120 Cals)
    2 Tbsp Honey (120 Cals)
    Calories: 680

    1 Powerade Protein Bar (210 Cals)
    2 Slices Whole Wheat bread (100 Cals)
    5 Ounces Deli Ham (150 Cals)
    1/3 Cup of Nuts and Raisins (220 Cals)
    Calories: 680

    PreWorkout
    1 Scoop On Hydrowhey (140 Cals)
    Calories: 140

    Postworkout
    1 Scoop Ergoenix Aftermath (153 Cals)
    1 Banana (120 Cals)
    Calories: 273

    Postworkout Meal
    2 Fajita Tacos with Chicken breast
    No cheese, No sour creams.
    Onions, tomato.
    Calories: 600?

    Dinner:
    Shrimp Taco on Whole Wheat Tortilla (350 Cals)
    Some Granola Nut Clusters (60 Cals)
    Calories: 410

    Presleep
    8 Ounces Skim Milk (80 Cals)
    1 Scoop On Casein (120 Cals)
    Calories: 200

    Total Calories: 3395
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    Workout
    Wow... Tried to switch the routine up a tiny bit.

    Flat Dumbbell Bench
    40 x 15
    60 x 3
    65 x 3
    70 x 3
    75 x 3
    80 x 3
    85 x 3
    90 x 3 (Last week this was hard, easy peezy this week)
    95 x 3 PR! - (little sloppy, but did em!)

    Seated Military Press
    Never done these before. After the 3rd set it just felt too uncomfortable.
    Im use to dumbbells and going towards my ear, with the bar you have to go forward, so i kept almost grazing the front of my face.
    45 x 12
    65 x 8
    95 x 6

    Shoulder Dumbbell Press
    65 x 6
    65 x 6
    So... I told my workout partner to come and help me cause I wouldn't be able to get the 70's up... I was like Ill likely need a little push and probably only get 5 reps, if that....
    70 x 10! PR - UNASSISTED!
    Got them up EASY! Like I had been doing it for years... I was even talking during the set telling him how I was shocked lol. I talked literally thru the entire set, wasnt even breathing right and busted ut 10 reps easy! Never even put the 70's up before lol.

    Incline Bench Press
    Now, i dont really use barbells for any type of bench, but my workout partner wanted to do Incline Bench today... Last time I did it was a LONG time ago... Maybe did 135 x 8. So i wont call any of these PR's, but it felt good putting up the numbers I did.
    135 x 10
    155 x 8
    175 x 6
    185 x 3 (prob had 1-2 more in me)

    Bent Over Barbell Rows
    135 x 8
    145 x 5
    155 x 5
    165 x 5
    175 x 5
    185 x 5 (PR!)

    Overall fantastic workout today!

    Still no sides, knocking on wood again. Well acne definitely increased. Ive been washing my face 3 times a day and I still get 2-3 new whiteheads every morning. Also acne on my butt, thigh, back, lol. Not crazy but theres some.
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    H Drol Cycle: Day 24 - (Overall: 38 days)

    Diet

    Didn't log, but here's a couple things I ate. yes Im aware my steak was overcooked.
    Scallops and Potatoes. Steak and Brown rice. I had already eaten like 5-6 of the scallops.

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    Workout

    Well, I potentially messed up my knee, but we shall see... The center of my knee was hurting around the 225 squats, and I really shouldnt have kept going.
    It hurt mildly doing Good mornings, quite a bit on the lower portion of Calf raises, and it hurt doing the leg curls. FML.

    I took an ice bath and the pains still there. Not bad, I mean I can walk up stairs and I dont feel it at all, but as soon as I apply pressure.... UGH!

    Barbell Squats
    45 x 10
    135 x 10
    185 x 5
    205 x 3
    215 x 3
    225 x 3
    235 x 3 (PR)
    245 x 3 (PR) - (horrible pain on all 3 reps)
    I could've easily done 255, and I know I could've, but just said No. I Should've stopped at 225 when the pain started, damnit!

    Good Mornings
    115 x 8
    135 x 6
    145 x 5
    155 x 5
    165 x 5 (PR)

    Kneeling Leg Curls
    80 x 8
    90 x 6
    100 x 6
    110 x 6
    120 x 5

    Seated Calf Raise
    180 x 10 x 2
    Pain just too much, Im done.

    Only Cardio was walking my dogs.
    I can only hope this gets better. Think ill skip leg day this Sunday and switch the routine up a bit for hypertrophy.

    Maybe a Chest/Shoulders Day. Arms day, and a Back day? Dunno. Im so mad right now though.
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    Nice PRs mate! Sorry about the pain, you taking cissus or anything of the sort?
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    Hey! Great to see you over here at AM. I would have joined in sooner had I realized you had another log going.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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    Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    Nice PRs mate! Sorry about the pain, you taking cissus or anything of the sort?
    I take 2 tabs a day of extra strength glucosamine and condroitn. I figured thats enough? What do you feel? Ill be OK I feel though, I might need to lay off the legs for 2 weeks though. Ill figure it out next week =/

    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Hey! Great to see you over here at AM. I would have joined in sooner had I realized you had another log going.
    No problem! Im probably gonna buy some HGHPro Soon, prob after this PCT is over. Or maybe during cause I heard Nolva makes it hard to sleep sometimes =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShayZ View Post
    No problem! Im probably gonna buy some HGHPro Soon, prob after this PCT is over. Or maybe during cause I heard Nolva makes it hard to sleep sometimes =/
    I recommend during PCT, so you can keep/continue gains through PCT, also aid in losing any extra BF gained during the cycle. just IMO.
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    Yeah if there is such a thing I would consider labelling HGHPro as a wonder drug lol...it literally has tons of positive benefits, and I can't recall ever seeing a negative to it. It's my favorite

    HGHPro + nyquil and benadryl = best sleep ever.
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    Switched the routine up due to the injured knee.

    Did Chest and Shoulders today...

    Back tomorrow. Bis and Tris Sunday Or I might do Bis and Back tomorrow and then triceps and abs Sunday. Very weird setup, but meh.

    Ill likely keep off leg excercises next week as well. I should be able to mantain the muscle just eating, but I guess well find out 2 weeks from now when I do legs again. I just dont wanna risk injuring it.

    Excercises

    Incline DB Bench
    40 x 15
    75 x 8 x 2
    80 x 8 (PR!)

    Shoulder DB Press
    40 x 12
    65 x 8 x 3
    Supersetted with
    Front Raises
    30 x 10 x 3

    Ez Bar Upright Rows
    60 x 10
    70 x 10 x 2 (PR!)

    Incline DB Fly
    35 x 10
    40 x 8

    DB Fly
    40 x 8

    Hammer Strength iso Lateral Decline Press
    90 x 10
    140 x 8
    180 x 6 x 2

    Flat barbell Bench Warmdown
    135 10

    DB Shrugs
    80 x 8 x 3
    Was working on Grip so I held the DB's for 20 seconds after the end of each set.
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    Well yesterday i did Back and Biceps. I think my biceps are my weak point as I dont really go up in weight on them at all. But I for the first time ever did Bicep Dropsets yesterday, and for 4-5 hours post workout my Bis were still tight. In fact when I flexed my bicep on either arm it was REALLY tight, and almost hurt lol. So hopefully I found what makes them grow.

    Excercises

    Hammer Curl
    20 x 15
    35 x 10 x 2
    40 x 6
    Dropset to
    30 x 8

    EZ Curl bar preacher Curls
    40 x 10
    75 x 10
    75 x 9 x 2

    Sated Alternating DB Curls
    35 x 8 x 3
    Dropset to
    30 x 8

    DB Incline Curl
    30 x 10
    35 x 7
    35 x 6
    Dropset to
    30 x 6

    Wide Grip lat Pulldown
    140 x 10
    155 x 8
    170 x 8 (PR)

    Dual Pulley Low Row
    80 x 10
    90 x 10

    Pullups
    2 Sets of 10

    Close Grip Plams In Lat Pulldown
    130 x 10
    145 x 10
    160 x 10 (PR)

    Hyperextensions
    45 x 10 x 2
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    Today is the last dosing of H Drol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShayZ View Post
    I think my biceps are my weak point as I dont really go up in weight on them at all.
    no Barbell curls? very different from DB curls believe it or not. If you wanna add size and strength to your bi's def. consider adding those in. Also i've found that arm's grow best with high rep high intensity short rest workouts, hit them and get out kinda deal.
    just food for thought.
    solid gains, looks like you had one hell of a ride, interested to see final stats.
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    Yeah arms are like legs imo, high reps work better, which means dropsets work great. I have no clue what a drop set is anymore after someone mention stripper runs, which sound like what I do as drop sets, but meh.

    I like picking a heavy weight for db curls, busting out as much as i can, and then going to grab the next lower size, and do that to failure until I hit the lowest db. You look AWESOME hitting failure with a 5 or 2 lb db lol.

    And second for bb curl, it's completely different, kinda weird.
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    Final Pics


    Top part is the precycle pics, bottom is post cycle

    I gained some fat as my stomach at belly button went from 34.5 to 35.5 inches.

    173 to 187 in 4 weeks at 3500 cals a day avg.

    PCT started today. Nolva went down easily. No sides to report yet.

    Ill post an initial review of H Drol by tomorrow.








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    Looks good man, chest/arms/back look a bit fuller and I don't notice a change to comp, so that means it was all muscle, well done !

    Actually on a second look it looks like some belly fat is gone. Even more well done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    Looks good man, chest/arms/back look a bit fuller and I don't notice a change to comp, so that means it was all muscle, well done !

    Actually on a second look it looks like some belly fat is gone. Even more well done!
    there was some fat gained i think. Belly went from 34.5 to 35.5
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    Looks good man back is wider shoulders and arms are fuller and you look bigger all around congrats! now the real games begin haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Looks good man back is wider shoulders and arms are fuller and you look bigger all around congrats! now the real games begin haha
    well today was my first workout back...

    I set 3 new PR's, lawl. PRs in PCT, and they were LEGIT prs too. Ill post em later.

    Im getting an X ray on my right knee tomorrow though. I have a bad feeling I tore my ACL or miniscus... I cant even do a BW squat... Walk fine, run fine, cant squat BW to save my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShayZ View Post
    well today was my first workout back...

    I set 3 new PR's, lawl. PRs in PCT, and they were LEGIT prs too. Ill post em later.

    Im getting an X ray on my right knee tomorrow though. I have a bad feeling I tore my ACL or miniscus... I cant even do a BW squat... Walk fine, run fine, cant squat BW to save my life.
    keep killin it through PCT
    good luck with your knee, I hope its nothing major.
  

  
 

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