6 Week PPlex/Epi Bridge

Page 1 of 2 12 Last
  1. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    6 Week PPlex/Epi Bridge


    I started this on Monday (9/31/09)

    Goals
    -----
    Current weight: 172.4@8%
    Goal weight: 187 with minimal fat gain.

    Cycle
    -----
    CEL Cycle Support
    CEL P-Plex: 30/30/30/30/0/0
    RPN Havoc: 0/0/30/30/30/30

    PCT
    -----
    Nolvadex: 40/20/20/10
    Clomid: 150mg days 1-3, 50mg days 4-7, 25mg days 7-14
    Lean Xtreme: starting on day 3 and running till end of cycle
    Na-R-ALA
    Creatine (Kre-Alkalyn)

    Other
    -----
    Vitamin C (3g/day)
    Vitamin E (400iu/day)
    FishOil (12-16g/day)
    Vitamin D3 (1000-2000iu/day)
    ALCAR (2g/day)
    Probiotic
    ZMA

    I will be following a DC style workout plan with added frequency due to the increased recovery ability while "on". Post cycle, I will switch to a standard DC routine. My diet will be about 3500 clean calories (40p/40c/20f). I will eat carbs around my workouts and increase calories as weight increases. I wil be keeping a log that includes: body weight, mass measurements, skin fold measurements, and weights lifted.

    I'm only on my 3rd day of pplex at 30mg and I have yet to notice any side effects. My current stats are:

    Bodyweight: 172.4
    Mass:
    Calves 15.2"
    Thighs 22.5"
    Waist 31"
    Chest 42"
    Biceps 15.4"
    Forearms 12.75"

    Skin Fold Measurements:
    Abdomen 6.5
    Oblique 4
    Suprailiac 5
    Midaxilliary 4
    Bicep 2
    Tricep 3.5
    Subscapula 8
    Calf 4
    Quadricep 4

  2. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    I also started a cycle the same day as you except mine is a pulse. I see you're going all out, good luck man. Hope you can reach your goal and that you and your liver survives the cycle to enjoy it j/k
  3. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Thanks. I'm starting to believe that Epi is much milder on the liver than even previously thought.

    I'll update this thread later with the results of my first two DC workouts.
    •   
       

  4. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 1 Workout

    A1.
    Incline Smith Press 240x14 RP
    Mil. Machine Press 155x15 RP
    Weighted Dips 45x18 RP
    WG Pulldowns Back 145x17 RP
    CG Cable Rows 175x16 RP

    The workout felt really good. I typically do 2 warm-up sets prior to my all-out rest-pause set. I also did static contractoins and stretches after each set.
  5. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 2 Workout

    B1.
    EZ Preacher Curl 70 x 19 RP
    Forearm Curls 70 x 22 RP
    Donkey Calf Raise 405 x 18 RP
    Romainian DL 305x8, 225x18
    Leg Press 680x8, 450x20
  6. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 4 Workout

    A2.
    Hammer Press 290 x 18 RP
    Mil. DB Press 70's x 12 RP
    CG Bench Press 185 x 13 RP
    CG Pulldowns 180 x 18 RP
    WG Rows 160 x 16 RP

    I felt strong today, but it's hard to get a real baseline as the routine is completely new to me. No side effects as of yet.

    I do have one question: should I take the pplex with or without food?
  7. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    I do have one question: should I take the pplex with or without food?
    I've been taking mine with my protein shake and some flax oil and it's been working good for me.
  8. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Cool. I've been taking it with food.
  9. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 5 workout

    B2.
    Hammer curls 35's x 18 RP
    Db Holds 105's x 2 sets
    Standing Calf Raises 255 x 20 RP
    Hamstring Curls 80each x 20 RP
    Hack Squat 270 x 21 RP

    Today's workout fealt pretty good. I'm anxious to get to a second round of each workout so I can really see my progress. This was my first time doing hack squats. I really like the fact that I can get really deep without fear of injury. I still haven't noticed any pplex sides @ 30mg. I was also up 2lbs as of this morning. My goal is 2.5lbs per week but I wouldn't be suprised if I get a little extra glycogen/water during my first week.
  10. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Today is the end of your first week, tells us all the juicy details. Leave nothing unsaid.
  11. New Member
    ejl's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  174 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    34
    Rep Power
    80
    Level
    5
    Lv. Percent
    29.88%

    Nice log I'll keep checking it out. I'm on week four of a similar bridge, Ill post mah results in 2 weeks.
  12. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Week 1 Results

    Bodyweight: 175.4 +3
    Mass:
    Calves 15.25"
    Thighs 22.6"
    Waist 31"
    Chest 42.2"
    Biceps 15.6"
    Forearms 12.9"

    I just woke up and took those measurements. I'm actually quite shocked to see that everything went up just after 1 week. I measured everything 3 times just to make sure. Despite feeling "squishy" bodyfat doesn't seem to have gone up noticeably. I'll take complete skinfold measurements every second week. As of today, my navel, oblique, and suprailiac measurements have remained the same. I haven't noticed any significant sides yet. I've been feeling a little more confident and driven lately. I'm not sure if that's the pplex or something else, but it's mild.

    I will update later with my A3 DC workout.
  13. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 7 Workout

    A3.
    **Inc. Db Press 100's 1x10
    Military Cable Press 110 x 16 RP
    Rev. Bench Press 155 x 18 RP
    Weighted Chins bw+10 x 19 RP
    Db Rows 80's 2 x 9

    I actually felt very good today.

    **I attempted a rest-pause set of incline dumbells, which was a huge mistake. There's a reason why these aren't recommended. I felt very good on the first round and set a PR of 100's x 10. However, after such a heavy set I couldn't get them up at all for the second round. As a result, I finished off my pecs with two sets of flat flyes and a static hold. I'll be switching to decline smith bp for my next A3.
  14. New Member
    ejl's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  174 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    34
    Rep Power
    80
    Level
    5
    Lv. Percent
    29.88%

    Grats with your first week. I gained 10 lbs my first 1.5 weeks on pp (mostly water weight) and so did my friend who is highly resistant to all orals. I think you have a little growth spurt coming your way in the next couple days! and then comes the strength
  15. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 8 Workout

    B3.
    Incline Db Curls 40's x 16 RP
    Reverse Forearm Curls 30 x 15 RP
    Seated Calf Raises 275 x 20 RP
    Sumo Deadlifts 315 x 7, 225 x 18
    ATG Smith Squats 315 x 15 RP

    I felt pretty good today until the sumo's. I haven't done them in a while and they really took it out of me. My knees were really shaking on the static hold after smith squats. I prefer free weight squats, but they don't suit rest-pause sets.

    I've also noticed a mild side effect of the pplex. I get very hot during my workouts and stay that way for some time after.
  16. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    I take it that tomorrow is when you find out how much you've improved this week right by going back to the A1 workout?
  17. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Nope. Tomorrow is an "off" day. I will be doing some intervals and ab work. Tuesday I will return to the A1 workout.
  18. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    Nope. Tomorrow is an "off" day. I will be doing some intervals and ab work. Tuesday I will return to the A1 workout.
    I guess you mean Wednesday since tomorrow is Tuesday.
  19. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Doh!
  20. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 10 Workout

    A1.
    Incline Smith Press 250x13 RP
    Mil. Machine Press 160x16 RP
    Weighted Dips 55x18 RP
    WG Pulldowns Back 160x15 RP
    CG Cable Rows 175x19 RP

    Great workout! Weights or reps went up on everything. I probably could have worked out an extra rep on my incline smiths on the second or third round if I hadn't tried for an extra rep which I did not complete on the first round.
  21. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 11 Workout

    B1.
    EZ Preacher Curl 75 x 19 RP
    Forearm Curls 80 x 23 RP
    Donkey Calf Raise 425 x 24 RP
    Romainian DL 315x10, 235x20
    Leg Press 720x9, 500x19

    My strength continues to improve. I don't like to use straps on dead lifts and my hands were killing me after doing 315x10. I wasn't sure I was going to be able to grip the bar for my widow maker set.
  22. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    Day 11 Workout

    B1.
    EZ Preacher Curl 75 x 19 RP
    Forearm Curls 80 x 23 RP
    Donkey Calf Raise 425 x 24 RP
    Romainian DL 315x10, 235x20
    Leg Press 720x9, 500x19

    My strength continues to improve. I don't like to use straps on dead lifts and my hands were killing me after doing 315x10. I wasn't sure I was going to be able to grip the bar for my widow maker set.
    seems like your strength is going up nice and steady, congrats on your gains. For those you might wanna use the strap for the deads to conserve your hands so you can focus on the widow makers?
  23. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Maybe. I didn't feel like I had a lack of grip strength. It was the bar squeezing my caluses to oblivion that was killing me.
  24. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    Maybe. I didn't feel like I had a lack of grip strength. It was the bar squeezing my caluses to oblivion that was killing me.
    I have that particularly bad when it's arms day and I forget to take my gloves.
  25. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Yeah, my callus pads usually progress with my weights, but they just haven't been able to keep up this time.
  26. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 13 Workout

    A2.
    Hammer Press 320 x 19 RP
    Mil. DB Press 70's x 14 RP
    CG Bench Press 190 x 14 RP
    CG Pulldowns 185 x 19 RP
    WG Rows 165 x 17 RP

    What can I say, I had another great workout. I start the epi in two days and can't wait to see what happens. I'll update tomorrow with my week two summary.
  27. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Today is the end of your second week, tells us all the juicy details. Leave nothing unsaid.

    ...This feels like dejavue
  28. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Week 2 Results

    Bodyweight: 180.6 +8.2
    Mass:
    Calves 15.4"
    Thighs 23"
    Waist 32"
    Chest 42.5"
    Biceps 15.7"
    Forearms 13"

    I really wasn't expecting this much weight in my second week. I was starting to feel "fat", but I think it's just the water. I've checked a few skin fold measurements and they are all unchanged. I might have put on a little visceral fat which would explain the waist increase. What I'm most surprised about is the size increase in my thighs. With the exception of yesterday (which wasn't really that bad), I've been eating pretty clean.
  29. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    Week 2 Results

    Bodyweight: 180.6 +8.2
    Mass:
    Calves 15.4"
    Thighs 23"
    Waist 32"
    Chest 42.5"
    Biceps 15.7"
    Forearms 13"

    I really wasn't expecting this much weight in my second week. I was starting to feel "fat", but I think it's just the water. I've checked a few skin fold measurements and they are all unchanged. I might have put on a little visceral fat which would explain the waist increase. What I'm most surprised about is the size increase in my thighs. With the exception of yesterday (which wasn't really that bad), I've been eating pretty clean.
    I guess you are well on your way into reaching you weight goal, just 6.4#'s more and you're there. So, will you just shoot for 200 since you're likely to reach your weight goal by next week and you would still have 3 more weeks to go after that?
  30. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    I'm thinking that 190-194 would be more realistic without putting on too much fat. I hate gaining visceral fat. It always seems that I have to burn all of it before burning much subcutaneous fat. That means it takes a couple of weeks of dieting before I even begin to notice a change in the mirror.
  31. New Member
    Jaryu's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  232 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    35
    Posts
    95
    Rep Power
    112
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    55.37%

    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    I'm thinking that 190-194 would be more realistic without putting on too much fat. I hate gaining visceral fat. It always seems that I have to burn all of it before burning much subcutaneous fat. That means it takes a couple of weeks of dieting before I even begin to notice a change in the mirror.
    Are you planning to cut calories to reduce and lean out your gains? If not, I think it's more likely you will stay at 194 after pct at your current gain rate, I am sure you will reach the 200# point then dry out the extra water and stuff on pct and comeback down to low/mid 190's after pct is done. You're gonna be hiiiiiiiuuuuuuuuuge hehehe
  32. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 14 Workout

    B2.
    Hammer curls 40's x 15 RP
    Db Holds 105's x 2 sets
    Standing Calf Raises 275 x 20 RP
    Hamstring Curls 85each x 21 RP
    Hack Squat 300 x 23 RP
  33. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 16 Workout

    A3.
    Inc. Db Press 105's 1x10
    Db Flies 60's 2x10
    Military Cable Press 120 x 15 RP
    Rev. Bench Press 160 x 18 RP
    Weighted Chins bw+25 x 17 RP
    Db Rows 85's 2 x 9

    Today's workout felt pretty good. I think the Havoc's starting to kick in. I almost got up the 105's for 11. I'll go for 110's the next time this workout comes around. Even though I feel pudgy, there's still no noticeable fat gain on the calipers or in the mirror.
  34. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 17 Workout

    B3.
    Incline Db Curls 45's x 14 RP
    Reverse Forearm Curls 30 x 22 RP
    Seated Calf Raises 315 x 21 RP
    Sumo Deadlifts 325 x 9, 235 x 20
    ATG Smith Squats 325 x 17 RP
  35. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 18 Workout

    A1.
    Incline Smith Press 255x15 RP
    Mil. Machine Press 165x16 RP
    Weighted Dips 65x18 RP
    WG Pulldowns Back 160x18 RP
    CG Cable Rows 190x17 RP
  36. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 19 Workout

    B1.
    EZ Preacher Curl 80 x 21 RP
    Forearm Curls 90 x 23 RP
    Donkey Calf Raise 455 x 22 RP
    Romainian DL 325x10, 245x20
    Leg Press 770x10, 520x20

    Strength seems to be coming on a little stronger now with the Epi. I've always felt that was one of epi's strong points. I need to start using straps for the DL's after doing wrist curls. I can barely hold on.

    Also, I was 182 this morning.
  37. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Week 3 Results

    Bodyweight: 183.8
    Mass:
    Calves 15.5"
    Thighs 23.4"
    Waist 32"
    Chest 43"
    Biceps 15.75"
    Forearms 13.1"

    I'm amazed that my thighs have blown up so quickly. On the other hand, my arms need the most help and seem to be struggling the most. Any suggestions? Maybe I need to drop the rest-pause sets and move to something higher volume for them.
  38. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 21 Workout

    A2.
    Hammer Press 340 x 19 RP
    Mil. DB Press 75's x 15 RP
    CG Bench Press 195 x 14 RP
    CG Pulldowns 200 x 17 RP
    WG Rows 180 x 15 RP
  39. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 22 Workout

    B2.
    Hammer curls 40's x 17 RP
    Db Holds 110's x 2 sets
    Standing Calf Raises 295 x 19 RP
    Hamstring Curls 90each x 21 RP
    Hack Squat 320 x 24 RP
  40. New Member
    Logo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  187 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Age
    32
    Posts
    152
    Rep Power
    146
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    77.3%

    Day 23 Workout

    A3.
    Inc. Db Press 110's 1x11
    Db Flies 65's 2x9
    Military Cable Press 120 x 17 RP
    Rev. Bench Press 165 x 18 RP
    Weighted Chins bw+35 x 13 RP
    Db Rows 85's 2 x 11
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Pplex/Havoc bridge
    By pitching101 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 09-07-2008, 04:13 PM
  2. pplex bridge
    By ryan496 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 08-08-2008, 07:23 PM
  3. Just finished epi, bridge into pplex?
    By thehazzle in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-18-2008, 06:26 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in