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    Dont get excited yet, with it being the first week of school, Im really busy and just wanted to summarize quickly what this log will consist of...so just sub if you want, ask questions, ill be on later to clear anything up...
    my arsenal of fat-burners...-which one?
    2 bottles of Hot-Rox Extreme
    2 of Lipo6X
    2 of REDLine
    2 of regular Caffeine (not a fat-burner but ya know....)
    1 of Recreate

    For the big cutting agents...(this is where it gets muddy)
    3 bottles of 11OXO -If I do the 11OXO, I will be following Ergo's 'lower-dose' cycle
    1/2 bottle of 6OXO-(I need 2...I know this)
    *going to buy 2 bottles of Furazadrol -im still researching on this (PCT is required because it is methylated and a PH)

    I can't touch anything hormonal until late feb (last cycle) so just going to run a fat-burner until then (this gives me time to get the hormonal stuff+ PCT on point)

    My diet is solid, I was considering the CKD, but that's HELL , so Im doing TKD, which I can manage better. My routine has a basic split...(but I will be incorporating drop-sets, burnouts, partials, static holds & stretching, maybe some DC Style rest-pauses)
    Mon=chest+abs
    Tues=back+cardio
    Wed=legs+abs
    Thurs-bi&tri+cardio
    Fri=shoulders+abs
    Sat & Sun-REST (cardio on sunday)
    Everything is 4 sets 8-12....I can explain more if so desired

    Have to run to class....will update later, hope everyone is along for this
    **ALSO**I was at 240 2 weeks ago, got my diet and routine in check then started Hot-Rox, down to 228 as of yesterday morning, not really hit up the cardio yet. NO ONE post 'do more research', or 'newbie' cuz...the ABI and Doom Crew will :bukkake: on your girlfriend, then your sister, mom, dad, and you
    I have experience with PH's and whats not....enough of that, lets do this!!!

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    PS - sounds like you have a ton of overpriced fatburners that are all very chemically similar. Assloads of caffiene and very light dosing of Yohimbine...

    You would have been better off just grabbing some Yohimbine caps - anyway - I'd run two different bottles to combat adjusting to the compound...
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    Subadubbed.

    BTW, Furzadrol is NOT methylated. There is a sale on Feraguno (the same compound) somewhere for a f*cking steal. PM me for the info.

    LOL about the doom crew skeeting on people... that made me laugh bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    PS - sounds like you have a ton of overpriced fatburners that are all very chemically similar. Assloads of caffiene and very light dosing of Yohimbine...

    You would have been better off just grabbing some Yohimbine caps - anyway - I'd run two different bottles to combat adjusting to the compound...
    i have a 'friend' at vitmain-shoppe

    i can grab some yohimbine....i prefer Hot-Hot, cuz it has yohimbine in it, im also thinking about doing a ECA instead of a fat-burner
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    Damn it Tom, you change your mind more than my girlfriend. If you dose ECA, you don't want to dose any other fat burner as you will over-stim yourself.

    I prefer the ECY stack over ECA... which is pretty much what Lipo-6 is, just with synephrine instead of ephedrine.
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    Subbed...let's see what the TomCat ends up running for this cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Damn it Tom, you change your mind more than my girlfriend. If you dose ECA, you don't want to dose any other fat burner as you will over-stim yourself.

    I prefer the ECY stack over ECA... which is pretty much what Lipo-6 is, just with synephrine instead of ephedrine.
    thats wut im saying...if i do ECA or ECY then i will not need to do a fat-burner
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    if ECA and ECY are the same, then wuts the 'E'?
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    any thoughts on Furazadrol or the 11OXO???
    im fine with just doing ECA, ECY, or a fat-burner
    (Ive never done a ECA or ECY by the way....)
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    ECA is Ephedra Caffeine Aspirin
    ECY is Ephedra Caffeine Yohimbe

    Lipo 6 is Synephrine, Caffeine Yohimbe... and gugglesterones or whatever that is.

    The 11oxo and Furazadrol/Feraguno would be good for a cut. They are going to be mildly suppressive... so know that before you cycle a hormone again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    ECA is Ephedra Caffeine Aspirin
    ECY is Ephedra Caffeine Yohimbe

    Lipo 6 is Synephrine, Caffeine Yohimbe... and gugglesterones or whatever that is.

    The 11oxo and Furazadrol/Feraguno would be good for a cut. They are going to be mildly suppressive... so know that before you cycle a hormone again.
    im interested in ECY, being that its yohimbe instead of asprin, how suppressive are we talking here? everything ive read says its not that bad-barely any, and when they did it was only the first 3 days, some people have said at higher doses (600+) they felt amazing...but i have to take into account furazadrol, and you mentioned Feraguno too
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    I can't stand anything Ephedrine. It makes me feel nauseous and kills my appetite. Although, I suppose that could be good for some!

    How long will you run this cut for, TC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    im interested in ECY, being that its yohimbe instead of asprin, how suppressive are we talking here? everything ive read says its not that bad-barely any, and when they did it was only the first 3 days, some people have said at higher doses (600+) they felt amazing...but i have to take into account furazadrol, and you mentioned Feraguno too
    furazadrol and feraguno are the same thing made by different companies. They are both Oristan-A clones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    any thoughts on Furazadrol or the 11OXO???
    im fine with just doing ECA, ECY, or a fat-burner
    (Ive never done a ECA or ECY by the way....)
    11-oxo all the way buddy, not even a close call, no pct needed, keep the dosing low, remember what i told you, never more than 4 caps a day, 2 in the morning and 2 at night, on workout days, 2 before training and 2 after.
    The best fat burning stack for me, without any crash is Albuterol, or ventolin, Leviathan r, and Asprin, for me it just melts the fat, and no crash.
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    Just to re-emphasize, you wont get shutdown from 11-oxo unless you dose high, thats when it starts converting into a steroidal compound, much the same as 6-bromo does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    11-oxo all the way buddy, not even a close call, no pct needed, keep the dosing low, remember what i told you, never more than 4 caps a day, 2 in the morning and 2 at night, on workout days, 2 before training and 2 after.
    The best fat burning stack for me, without any crash is Albuterol, or ventolin, Leviathan r, and Asprin, for me it just melts the fat, and no crash.
    I've used Albuterol with only cardio before and it worked awesome without any sides. In fact, I had to drastically increase my calories to keep from losing weight too fast when I was taking the Alb. Great stuff IMO. I can only imagine how fast you'd drop fat if you combined it with Levi R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub View Post
    I can't stand anything Ephedrine. It makes me feel nauseous and kills my appetite. Although, I suppose that could be good for some!

    How long will you run this cut for, TC?
    until im shredded! haha. but seriously...ive always loved cardio, and never really wanted to be 'big', ive always been the bigger guy naturally, and never been the guy who is ripped
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Just to re-emphasize, you wont get shutdown from 11-oxo unless you dose high, thats when it starts converting into a steroidal compound, much the same as 6-bromo does.
    yes, i prefer NO shutdown
    so you suggest 4 a day...even for my size? can i stack that with feraguno???
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    yes, i prefer NO shutdown
    so you suggest 4 a day...even for my size? can i stack that with feraguno???
    Isn't feraguno a PH? Therefore causing shutdown . . .
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    hey everyone, I feel like complete dog $hit, i have no idea why...hopefully ill feel better, may start logging workouts, dont know...

    also, my diet is really starting to kill me
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    hey everyone, I feel like complete dog $hit, i have no idea why...hopefully ill feel better, may start logging workouts, dont know...

    also, my diet is really starting to kill me
    You're probably in ketosis then. Post what you've eaten the past couple of days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub View Post
    You're probably in ketosis then. Post what you've eaten the past couple of days.
    breakfast
    8 egg whites or 1/2 cup of oatmeal w/1 scoop of whey
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    snack
    50 g whey shake or a salad (eggs, lettuce, carrots, cucumbers, olive oil)(all salads are same)
    water
    lunch-also pre WO
    some type of lean meat (chicken, beef, fish)
    some type of carb (wheat bagel, pasta, potato, oatmeal)
    water
    post WO
    50 g whey shake w/water
    some type of fast digesting sugar (gatorade, white bread bagel w/jelly, cereal)
    dinner
    lean meat (chicken, fish, beef, eggs)
    salad
    --maybe 50 g whey shake
    snack
    50 g whey shake
    --maybe 2 tbsp of natty PB


    its been hard to eat well because school just started, but i have 2 complete diets written up thhat will be easier to follow when i get in the swing of things
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    i just read the bottle of Lipo6X and it says if I experience headaches, dizzines, increased heart rate to stop use, so I'm stopping Lipo6X.
    the weird thing is last time I used Lipo6X I felt great...why the change?
    I have Hot-Rox Extreme, REDLine, Caffeine, Yohimbine left...

    no one has responded to my stack 11OXO/6OXO/Feraguno/Napalm
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    forgot to mention on my diet...Im trying to do the TKD diet, so should I try egg whites or oatmeal for breakfast?
    I think egg white, trying to limit carb intake to only around my WO
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    forgot to mention on my diet...Im trying to do the TKD diet, so should I try egg whites or oatmeal for breakfast?
    I think egg white, trying to limit carb intake to only around my WO
    I think you just answered your own question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub View Post
    You're probably in ketosis then. Post what you've eaten the past couple of days.
    Looking at his diet, its definitely NOT ketosis.
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    I don't think I could imagine Tom in Ketosis.
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    Definitely not in keto, but that's not a lot of carbs, especially at your size. It's what, maybe 150g/day? I've been on a very similar diet the past couple months and tend to feel like **** as well every 3-4 days. I've found that it helps to have a refeed every 5 days or so where I bump up to 400g CHO. Keeps my strength up, keeps me from continuing to feel like ****, keeps cravings at bay and seems to be keeping the fat loss coming.

    Maybe try doing a refeed like this once and see how your body responds. I often look leaner the day after my refeeds. I think it's actually an illusion caused by my muscles filling up with glycogen, but it sure is motivating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carib102 View Post
    Definitely not in keto, but that's not a lot of carbs, especially at your size. It's what, maybe 150g/day? I've been on a very similar diet the past couple months and tend to feel like **** as well every 3-4 days. I've found that it helps to have a refeed every 5 days or so where I bump up to 400g CHO. Keeps my strength up, keeps me from continuing to feel like ****, keeps cravings at bay and seems to be keeping the fat loss coming.

    Maybe try doing a refeed like this once and see how your body responds. I often look leaner the day after my refeeds. I think it's actually an illusion caused by my muscles filling up with glycogen, but it sure is motivating.
    A refeed, or cheat day, is good with any diet, except maybe a few weeks out from a contest. The influx of calories and carbs will make a understimulated metabolism shift into overdrive. If done correctly, this should crank the metabolism up and then the next week, when you go back to your diet for 6 days, you have a metabolism that is gonna make short work of whatever food you are putting into your system. Lee Priest was a big advocate of "cheating" to boost the metabolism.
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    Well it sure helps for me! I should add that even though it is a "cheat" day I still keep it pretty clean carb wise. I think the worst I eat is sushi on my cheat days. Otherwise the additional carbs come from potatoes, brown rice, oatmeal, ww bread, pasta and dairy sugars. If it was good enuff for Lee Preist then it sure should be good enuff for us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carib102 View Post
    Well it sure helps for me! I should add that even though it is a "cheat" day I still keep it pretty clean carb wise. I think the worst I eat is sushi on my cheat days. Otherwise the additional carbs come from potatoes, brown rice, oatmeal, ww bread, pasta and dairy sugars. If it was good enuff for Lee Preist then it sure should be good enuff for us!
    Priest's methods weren't always conventional, and he was one of the best at what he did. Lee often got to the point of being huge but fat in the offseason... I mean serious bloat. Could have been the drugs, could have been the "see food" diet. But when you are 5'6", it is hard to blame the guy when he is trying to bulk up to compete with the likes of Jay and Ronnie. He was the best "short" guy to walk the stage in his time. One of the best since Franco.

    Cheating one or two meals in moderation can be good for you. It helps keep you sane. At the end of a cut, don't cheat. It really depends on where you are in your cut/bulk and what your goals are.

    And no, skittles aren't anyones cheat food of choice except you Timber. But do what works. Sushi is definitely at the top of my list of cheat foods. In n'out will always be my #1 though.
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    I love Skittles, but haven't touched one in the past 10 weeks.
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    My new diet consists of a lot of skittles / gummi bears / and kids' cereal.
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    I got a little touch of the flu, been in bed the past 2 days.

    Does anyone have a say on the stack 11 OXO/6 OXO/ Furaguno/ Napalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    I got a little touch of the flu, been in bed the past 2 days.

    Does anyone have a say on the stack 11 OXO/6 OXO/ Furaguno/ Napalm
    Here's my say, playa playa...

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    ive realized a few things, im going to save the 6OXO for PCT (but may not use it because im dosing the 11OXO low) im not going to use furaz, im using furaguno instead (same thing, not methylated, so NO PCT )
    im just trying to figure out now how to run the 11OXO and furaguno, which to do first, dosages, etc...everything ive seen is so far is people running either with a strong prohormone, not just the two, but when they do they're not too specific about the details (i guess because both are mild)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    ive realized a few things, im going to save the 6OXO for PCT (but may not use it because im dosing the 11OXO low) im not going to use furaz, im using furaguno instead (same thing, not methylated, so NO PCT )
    im just trying to figure out now how to run the 11OXO and furaguno, which to do first, dosages, etc...everything ive seen is so far is people running either with a strong prohormone, not just the two, but when they do they're not too specific about the details (i guess because both are mild)...
    Tom, run them at the same time. Feraguno should probably be followed by the 60X0, so plan on having a pct, just a mild one should suffice, IE no serm needed. Just use an AI or test booster, or better yet, both.
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