my quest for high school 1000 lb club! at 175 lbs.
- 11-25-2008, 10:15 PM
my quest for high school 1000 lb club! at 175 lbs.
so im a senior in hs, and im trying to get into a service academy, preferably annapolis (navy). My grades look pretty good, (4.125 GPA) and i got a 1800 on the SAT
anyway, ive been lifting for about a year (with a 3 month mono break)
so to the story. at my hs we have a pretty interesting 1000 lb club. it consists of bench, squat and power clean. Anyways, since ive been there about 10 people have been in it, all football linemen. all at least 250 lbs+. no one EVER that was my build or size.
ive been gifted with a pretty good frame and good genetics
(6' 3", 175, six pack, 30 inch waist) anyway ive decided that before i leave (late may) im going to make it in.
when i started back after dealing with a rough case of mono, i weighted in at 153 lbs (down 16) and here were my lifts
total of 510 ugg.
after being back in the game for the past 2.5 months, here are my lifts
total of 735, lookin up.
my method of getting this 1000 lbs is going to be (hopefully)
clean 275 (+70)
squat 425 (+120)
Bench 300 (+75)
im doing bodypart per day week splits like this
back and biceps
off, or easy day.
im eating my butt off because im also swimming (50 free)
and im doing all the good lifts. (clean and jerk, deads exc.)
and i bust my butt in the gym. i DO NOT slack off, which is why i seem to go through lifting partners almost weekly.
any good tips? ill be posting workouts on here daily, and i know the squat numbers a little ambitious, but im here to work, and hopefully learn from you guys.
- 11-25-2008, 10:26 PM
btw, did legs today, and swam
safety bar squats (going from the bottom, with the weight on the safety bars, really digging out of the hole)
200, 200, 300
calf raises 4x25 mixed weights
look good to you guys?
- 11-26-2008, 06:00 PM
and todays workout....back
lat pull down 8x10
assisted wide grip pull ups
4x10 w/ 50 lbs help
bent over rows
cable rows (strict form)
and finally deads(not bouncing the weight on the floor at all, strict reps)
11-26-2008, 06:02 PM
11-26-2008, 06:10 PM
i know, thats why no one built like me has ever made it in!
with my current deadlift im almost there (935 total)
but the you have to clean, so here we go!
11-26-2008, 09:17 PM
Good luck with ure goals bro. Id make a bigger split between ure leg days. Are u planning on sqautting on both? I suggest maybe trying to get a 4 inch keveler belt and knee wraps to boost ure sqaut. I wouldnt deadlift to boost ure clean though. Its an explosive lift and i would alternate between powerclean and hangclean. Are u going to try and play ball at Annapolis?
11-26-2008, 09:33 PM
you might want to hit up kabuki for some advice. i have nothing to offer - i don't train like a powerlifter. asking advice from someone who deads 660 for sets would be the best advice i could give.
either way, good luck with your goals!
11-26-2008, 10:13 PM
thanks for the words guys!
i am going to try to play ball at annapolis, but im also going to try and be on their powerlift team, so this is more for powerlifting than football
im doing deads more for overall strength, and doing explosive lifts at school, during weightlifting.
so you think i should space out my leg days more? i am squatting on both, and doing some light squatting during weightlifting as well.
i max out with a belt, but not wraps. anything else?
11-26-2008, 11:07 PM
dude if ya wana play ball stop lifting so much. My body hurts thinking about how much u lift legs. U dont need to squat, front sqaut, box sqaut, safety sqaut and leg press in a day. Id just pic one and do it 1-2 times a week. Preferrably front sqaut and hang cleans for football. Do more functional stuff such as overhead squats, snatches step ups box jumpes lunges, etc. Also bro try and take the SATS again if you can. My best friend is at annapolis and had a 2150 and is one of the dumber kids there. Also start emailing ure congressmen or representative. I dunno how u get over a 4 either but make sure u get some real good recomendations to
Powerlifting and Football are two incredbly different beasts though. Id say unless u are one of those 250+ less athletic guys, pick one.
11-26-2008, 11:54 PM
11-27-2008, 12:18 AM
11-27-2008, 11:33 AM
270 for ten is nothing I have done 360 for 8 before (last week)
btw i mean the lat pulldown machine, where you load plates and have the two handles that you pull on, not a cable machine
my back is massively strong, i have also shrugged 405 for 10. it sucks that the rest of me isnt as strong.
football isnt the thing i really want to go for, im there to learn and train. i have spoken to my reps, and the way i look, my scores and grades place me in a pretty good position(4.125 is weighted), West Point pretty much said that i have a place there if i get a nomination. My nomination appointments come in December, so thats the next step in my application.
11-27-2008, 03:14 PM
todays thanksgiving, so no lifting today, just eating and sleeping, I thought about running a 5 or 6 miles, but decided against it, my shin splints still arent healed up from cross country yet, but they are feeling better. no point in tearing them up again
11-27-2008, 08:09 PM
Yeah bro keep ure shins fresh theyll kill your workouts if there hurting. Great to hear ure prob gonna get into annapolis thats awesome. Sounds like plebe summer would be a vacation for you....JK. Good luck bro
11-27-2008, 08:21 PM
thanks bro! im taking this real serious and training my azz off, have been for a while. Have to see how it goes, no point in showing up there and having the work part kick my butt, thats what the schooling is for!
11-28-2008, 07:27 PM
welcome back everyone! hope you had a good Thanksgiving!
i actually got a letter today from annapolis, and they said i am academically qualified, and need to pursue appointments, which i am
anyway, did chest today. my shoulder still bothers me, so idk if im going to be benching 300 by May
mike tyson pushup drill as warmup (10, arms up, 9, arms up, etc) trying to get bloodflow to my shoulder, and have it feel better
4x1 (1 set)
then i decided to do dumbell work today
aborted due to my shoulder bothering me
dips, unweighted, to stretch out
(btw i do triceps on their own, so no closegrip)
then some bicep work
hammers and curls
does this look good to you guys? my chest workout really worries me, because it seems to be my biggest weakness.
i really could use a couple more workouts to really tear things up. i usually do cable cross overs, but the machine was broke, and skipped the pecdeck machine for the same reason (recovering seat)
11-28-2008, 09:14 PM
hey i had to do something similar when i was a senior.. except military press was also in there... how much time do you have before your max outs... i utilized a program where i progressively upped the weights and lowered the reps for all the excersises i would be tested on >>>>>12,10,8....10,8,6, 8,6,4 6,5,4 5,4,3 4,3,2,1 .. test maxes....i utilized a program similar to that and at about ten pounds heavier then you 185.... i was able to complete a 305 bench, 415 squat and 225 pound power clean... thats about 945 lb total...
11-28-2008, 11:30 PM
the final max tests wont come until late may, so i do have some time. zach, did you do like 8,6,4 and then the next workout do like 7,5,3 and then the next 6,4,2? this sounds like it might work great for me, because its totally different than how i run my stuff now. thanx
11-29-2008, 03:33 AM
exactly man.. if you have the time see how it works out.. i was so suprised too see how high my 1rm shot up..
also another great program that i have used twice so far in college is the bench like an animal program.. if your tough enough to lift heavy weights everyday and need you bench to shoot up in a few weeks try this http://www.animalpak.com/html/articl...ction=training
11-29-2008, 04:30 AM
11-29-2008, 04:31 AM
11-29-2008, 10:42 AM
Good luck should be interesting to see how you do!
Just took a quick look at what your doing.....I think on some of your workouts your doing too many reps. A lot of powerlifters I know do 1 RM days where they overload their nervous system. You can also do this by doing speed sets (6x2reps at say 75% of your 1RM and speed lift them)
Just my thoughts...your only gonna lift these weights once come May so you may want to try doing heavier reps but less of them. Keep some hypertrophy work in there cos you cant max lift more than twice a week effectively.
11-29-2008, 04:15 PM
ohh man, what a workout.
legs day (raw)
drink preworkout (mri black powder)
play basketball 10-15 minutes
4 reps 135
4 reps 185
2 reps 195
then i fail to get 195 up 3 times, call it done
10 reps 135
8 reps 195
6 reps 225
4 reps 295 (was pretty tired, not getting really good depth on these, just over parallel)
2 sets 135
3 sets 135
not a bad workout, kinda jittery, hating tuna fish(which i ate like 20 minutes before)
but not too bad, need to get a squat belt.
11-30-2008, 12:46 PM
11-30-2008, 01:09 PM
i know, and i've been eating as much as possible, but I just can't seem to do it. I'm gifting with a FASTTT metabolism, and it just doesnt seem to be working. Thanks for the link on the bench program btw, reps.
11-30-2008, 05:19 PM
P.S. You thought about Plyometrics and bounding? I added so much mass to my legs doing a combination of both!
11-30-2008, 06:46 PM
like jumping squats and that stuff? ive messed with it a little, but nothing major. I might add that in the ext week or 2
todays workout-shoulders and calves (my calves are hurting for size, so im going to try training them 3-4 days a week, see if they grow then)
my shoulders still bothering me, so delt workout is light
smith overhead press
dumbell overhead press
overhead press machine
225,315,405(yeah baby!),315,315,225,225(12reps) ,
pull ups (closegrip military)
calves seated calf raises
standing calf raises
feeling pretty good, shoulders just something i have to keep an eye on, but it felt ok today
12-01-2008, 09:29 PM
ohh boy, had a busy day, senior project, 2 workouts and swimming practice
workout 1- weightlifting class
clean 155 4x
skipped squats, still recovering from saturdays leg workout
(i aint no dummy, i know my limits)
swim practice, my 25m times are getting better, first meet is next thursday, hope i can turn a great time for 50 freestyle (states?)
then its TRICEPS!
100lbs (warmup set)
unweighted(warmup 1st set), 45 lbs, 90,90,90
seated and standing, same as yesterday pretty much
reverse barbell curls
behind the back curls
12-02-2008, 08:07 PM
ohh boy, its amazing how close i am to overtraining some days. i can feel it, and im pushing things to the breaking point, but its all worth it, because im still making gains
swim practice (very frustrating day, had several mental errors in the water)
bent over rows
widegrip pull ups
military pull ups
very tired today, distracted about my performance in the water. need to get my head screwed on straight.
12-03-2008, 08:01 PM
Uggh, I havent slept well in 2 days. I started taking Centrum Performance (mulitvitamin) and i think that it is keeping me up at night. Im stopping taking it and see if I can sleep tonight.
Anyway, Had swim practice today, and I was absolutely DEAD
Then lifted legs tonight
rough workout, just had to put my nose down and do it
(1st 305 wasnt parallel, got the second one deep though)
with 55 lb dumbells
12-03-2008, 09:05 PM
seems to me like ure overtraining bro... No offense but i used to do what ure doing to and i overtrained for like three years til i started getting hurt. Ure back workout looks fine but the other two of the last three look real bad as far as overtraining goes. If ure gonna do that at least get some serious aminos and protein in ya. Also the mental errors....u gotta get ure mind a rest from the gym as u give ure body one also. Otherwise u aint gonna have that drive to push and get it everyday. Just my two cents though
12-03-2008, 09:11 PM
thanks for the feedback man, im taking friday off, tomorrow will be an easy(relative) day, we are lifting as a team, so im taking it easy.
i really think that right now it is just fatigue, my weight is still up, no loss at all, and my strength looks really good. im still gaining on lifts. but i am going to slow down some and try to recover
12-03-2008, 09:29 PM
You need to look into Westside Barbell Training ASAP. Google
WS4SB and Westside training and take in all the information you can.
The biggest tip I will give you right now is that if you want to excel in the Bench Squat and Clean you should train for those three lifts. All accessory work should be directly related to those movements.
Glute Ham Raises
Heavy Triceps, Lats, and Shoulders
Form can really make a difference on the Bench Press as well, learn how to set up properly
Power and Hang Cleans
Cleans are a super technical lift, keep the reps very low but do a lot of sets.
Since you have trouble gaining weight I would suggest dropping your training down in volume but increasing the weights. If you can train 4 days a week and set it up like this:
Day 1 : Squat Heavy + Squat Accessory
Day 2 : Bench Press Speed + Back and finish with a few bicep sets
Day 3: Clean 8-12 sets of 1-3 reps : Quad Dominant Compound exercise 5x5 + Heavy standing ab work
Day 4: Bench Heavy + Tricep Heavy + shoulder stability and mobility
Muscle Pharm Rep
12-03-2008, 11:59 PM
12-04-2008, 11:31 AM
12-04-2008, 11:43 AM
All of these can be done on a lat pulldown machine as well (except the second one i guess)
Muscle Pharm Rep
12-04-2008, 11:58 AM
12-04-2008, 05:34 PM
today, no swimming, and more importantly, i got 9 quality hours of sleep!
i think it was the multi, i would take it right b/f bed, and then freak out,lol
anyways, had an easy day today, chest.
maxed out with 235 for bench today, first thing, so things look good.
floor press(first time ive ever done it)
then a couple of cleans, and
4 reps 225
4 reps 275
4 reps 315
1 rep 365! this is my new max dead, and it was a piece of cake, i popped it right up!
405 (missed, got it up about a foot and a half)
and im done for the day
12-04-2008, 10:41 PM
12-05-2008, 04:26 PM
todays workout, off day
ran a track sprinters circuit
aiming for .30 times, hit a couple of 24s and 28s
so running them faster than called for
btw i revised all of my lifting using westsides trainings stuff, have to see how it works out.
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