the sugar in milk
- 07-09-2008, 07:23 PM
- 07-09-2008, 08:01 PM
Its better than the sugar in pop, candy etc. But I'm not a fan of milk. Humans are the only animal that drink milk after infancy, not to mention its the milk of a totally different species of animal.
Milk contains an "allowable percentage" of blood and puss.
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- 07-09-2008, 09:46 PM
07-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Yeah, I am definately not opening that page. I will remain happy in my ignorance regarding the skim milk that I drink daily.
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07-09-2008, 10:12 PM
07-09-2008, 10:15 PM
07-09-2008, 10:27 PM
I keep my milk drinking to when Im bulking, then the extra cals and protein are great. When it comes time for me to go on a cut milk is one of the first things to go for me.
07-11-2008, 10:01 AM
07-11-2008, 10:17 AM
When using skim milk, a glass or two helps me add some carbs and protein to my daily total when I'm in a hurry. And, milk isn't the only thing people should concern themselves with. I would say 90% of the products on any supermarket shelf (w/ organic exceptions) are "contaminated" in some way.
Dr. Benjamin Spock
07-11-2008, 10:43 AM
Hmm..I'm into my first *real* cut right now, this is making me think about exchanging milk for water in my protein. Maybe I will just do half water half milk...milk makes them so much better. That's the only damned thing I look forward to eating!
07-11-2008, 11:21 AM
I drink water with all my protein, it does taste a bit better with milk, but you have to keep in mind your not drinking it exclusively for the taste. Depending on how much milk you drink you could cut a couple hundred cals out of your diet very easily, and you wont miss it, its not nearly as noticable as cutting out a carb serving lol
07-11-2008, 12:06 PM
07-11-2008, 12:11 PM
Agree'd, I drink mine with water all year. The only time I ever drink it with milk is if Im making up a meal replacement type shake with ground oats and milk, otherwise its water all the way.
07-11-2008, 01:37 PM
07-11-2008, 03:00 PM
agreed, if it fits ur dietary needs, im all about some skim milk, but if ur trying to cut, lose the most fat...the carb/sugars in milk u dont need
07-12-2008, 01:09 AM
07-12-2008, 01:12 AM
07-12-2008, 02:49 AM
I know I will get **** for this, but I drink a gallon of milk a day, and I've been able to cut and bulk just fine....
Great for getting in calories / meal replacement, and protein!
The strongest I have ever been was when I was drinking over a gallon a day, so I don't care it comes from a cow, I eat cows, not people, so why would I be afraid of drinking their milk. Nutrients is nutrients.
BTW - Canada guy, if that is you in your avatar why the hell are you worried about the sugar in milk, obviously you have been able to get really lean with it so far!!
07-12-2008, 03:40 AM
If cows milk isn't good for you, and soy contains phytoestrogens which have negative effects in males, then what the hell am I supposed to put on my Cocoa Puffs? Water? Yuck.
07-12-2008, 10:31 AM
I dropped nearly 50 pounds while still drinking a 12-16oz glass of milk with breakfast every morning. I don't think it's a problem.
07-12-2008, 12:06 PM
Milk, or for that matter dairy products assist in weight loss. Lactaid all by itself is high on the GI. You have to consider the big picture, that everything else you put in your stomach at the same time is bringing down the GI of the sugar contained in the milk. Casien is slower to digest, that brings it down a notch. Then add in your 40+ grams of protien powder and you have lowered it even more. You are probably adding in or taking some type of EFA, GI goes down even more. You can even add fiber to the shake to lower it even further. So in the end count the calories, and do the work and you will get lean.
That being said if you want your carbs from another source then give it up from here, or choose something else. One thing is paramount caloric intake minus expenditure have to end up negative at the end of the day. Your body may thrive on a certain nutrient ratio while everyone else may not. Look at the big picture, everything you eat at one time is being digested at the same time so you have extra simple sugars in a meal high in protien and a little fat and fiber and it isn't going to hurt you. Don't get tied up in concentrating on that one puzzle peice when the rest of them are needed for the big picture.
07-12-2008, 12:54 PM
When one is eating more frequent smaller meals of whole foods with balanced macros then GI data is hardly useful.
GI is data is useful to determine when a processed food is less or more crappy than another.
07-12-2008, 01:21 PM
well as for now im trying to keep my carbs around 1g per body lb a day, sometimes it gets a little over but not too bad.
ive decided to keep the skim milk limited to my breakfast, either poor it in my oatmeal so its not so damn bland or just have a cup to wash it down with.
as for that link.....yea ill pass...ignorance is probably best....got milk?
07-12-2008, 01:27 PM
but basically my macros look like this
310-330 protein, 210-240 carbs, 90-110 fat
roughly around 3200-3400 cals a day. my fat is never mixed with ym carbs except at breakfast with 2 whole eggs and 6 whites then oatmeal and ....1 cup skim milk!
later in the day my last 2-3 meals only consist of fat+protien
a great meal im loving is 4 tbs natty pb mixed with 1/2 scoop whey and 2-4 slices of..skim milk cheese..lol there it is again.
thats an easy 42-52 gram protein meal with 32 grams of fat. its like a dessert!
07-13-2008, 12:09 PM
07-13-2008, 12:11 PM
07-13-2008, 12:20 PM
07-13-2008, 04:30 PM
unless you are 6 weeks out from competition, i'd say that the sugar in milk is irrelevant. and if you like milk but want less carbs look for this
07-13-2008, 04:53 PM
I drink milk for breakfast mainly. I was good for Arnold so it's goood for me. Saw Heather McCartney on Larry King one time warning of the badness of drinking milk....not sure what she was implying, they did not elaborate. Sanjay Gupta jumped in with the line that we are the only creatures to drink another mamals milk? Not sure what he was saying either.
07-13-2008, 05:29 PM
Disaccharides (most commonly seen sugars) digest differently in the body depending on which monosaccharides bonded, and in which manner. While table sugar and lactose are both disaccharides, they are not direct isomers, and thereby are digested much differently.
Milk, in my opinion, is too valuable of a dietary asset to be completely removed due to a mistaken assumption about its sugar content.
07-13-2008, 05:38 PM
07-13-2008, 05:45 PM
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07-14-2008, 02:31 PM
my goal now is lose the "bulk fat" ill be around the same weight in that picture but leaner im hoping. plus the lighting was awesome in that room
i wanna do a level 1 entry show so well c what happens, i was told to shed some fat and see where i go from there.
time to start getting back on my other "vitamins"
edit: ah 1 more thing my diet now is alot more tight i think, in that picture i just wanted to c how ripped i can get and didnt really plan my diet too hard, just watchd what i ate, cut alot of carbs and ate most of my fat at night like im trying now, but im counting every macronutrient for this time around, i hope it works out for me.
07-14-2008, 02:56 PM
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07-24-2008, 11:54 AM
07-24-2008, 12:08 PM
My wife threw off my nutrition planning a bit this week. She accidentally bought 2% instead of skim milk. 5g fat per cup adds up over the course of a day.
07-24-2008, 01:01 PM
If not you can always correct it with lots of this :bruce3:
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07-24-2008, 01:48 PM
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