- 12-13-2007, 11:07 AM
My weight has been stagnant for the most part after trying different diet techniques and various stim fat burners. Was wanting input on some other products I was thinking of stacking:
RPN DCP and Anabolix Extreme Retain 2
I would appreciate any feedback on these products. I'm open to suggestions as well.
- 12-13-2007, 12:13 PM
- 12-13-2007, 12:35 PM
Thank you for your reply. I have actually already used the original Leviathan at 5 a day, but unfortunately didn't see any significant results. I have been using Reset AD for a while now as well. I have never tried a cortisol blocker/reducer which is why I was considering it.
12-13-2007, 03:01 PM
12-13-2007, 03:07 PM
Abdomin is flat, but fat is there. Obliques too...and chest fat. Everything else is good. I have taken anti-estrogen (6-OXO and a few others) but never had any luck (no significant change).
12-13-2007, 06:11 PM
DCP + a forsalean product + Relora
Taking it further
Sesathin + CLA
12-13-2007, 10:14 PM
I'm not familiar with most of that, but will look into it next chance I get.
12-14-2007, 08:04 AM
I have started to really enjoy DCP pre-cardio. Anyway you said you have been trying different diet techniques, have you stuck to a plan consistently for a good period to see results?
12-14-2007, 08:28 AM
Isn't DCP non-stim based; what's the advantage taking it pre-cardio?
The least amount of time I've stayed on a diet was in six week intervals.
12-14-2007, 08:43 AM
Very simplified, someone from RPN will be here to make it more literal, but I figured I'd say something for you to read while you wait... And if I am wrong get corrected and learn something.
12-15-2007, 02:08 AM
JRM - the reason for DCP to be taken pre-workout/cardio is that the PLCAR helps with managing general fatigue i.e. assists you with working out for longer, there is a slight thermo effect from the raspberry ketones. The TTA will also be doing its job to mobilise those fat cells and get them primed for fat burning. You have to try it to feel it. It is very noticeable, I have been taking it about 20mins pre-workout and sweat, literally dripping compared to if I didn't take it.
12-16-2007, 04:29 PM
So....would the DCP (for fatloss) and Retain 2 (for cortisol contol) be a good stack? I would like to place an order tonight, so please let me know!
12-16-2007, 04:47 PM
Yeah it would be a good stack. I personally like cort blockers alot. Transdermal 7 cort is a good one and primordials looks really good but really expensive. I think it has 7 oxo plus other things in it to boost fat loss. Oh and I almost forgot to mention napalm. Its for spot reduction of fat. If you just have a few troubled areas it may be the way to go. I've only been using it for a short time but It appears that my love handles are shrinking already.
12-16-2007, 11:02 PM
Just ordered the Retain 2 and DCP along with some other goodies.
12-18-2007, 11:18 PM
Sounds good, are you keeping a log of your progress somewhere?
12-19-2007, 11:51 AM
Honestly, I hadn't really thought about it. I have only logged once before and didn't get much feedback.
12-19-2007, 01:45 PM
its funny no one is reccomending 11-oxo anymore.... do we hate PA that much???
12-19-2007, 10:06 PM
12-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Got the DCP and Retain 2 in today, along with my normal supps. Will be starting it tomorrow.
12-20-2007, 02:09 PM
12-20-2007, 02:24 PM
Started it this morning. Workout went fairly well. Today was triceps and shoulders, but nursing a rotator cuff injury so shoulders weren't great. Cardio was not very good either, at least compared to Monday through yesterday. I did about five minutes warm up and seven minutes HIIT on elliptical; and about seven minutes on treadmill. I think I had the resistence too high on the elliptical and got burnt out too early.
With saying all that, the endurance seemed up in regard to my tricep exercises.
Weight today: 285-ish lbs
12-20-2007, 03:43 PM
Well I will sub to this thread and check in on you from time to time
12-20-2007, 03:50 PM
12-20-2007, 03:56 PM
I haven't tried Retain 2, but DCP does not make me irritable. Maybe a bad day? Poor sleep/diet?
Oh, what was your final decision on the diet/workout routine?
12-20-2007, 04:01 PM
Could be a bad day. Diet is OK today, missed a meal earlier so that could be it too.
Diet? I have no idea! I've gained about 7-8 lbs over the past 3 weeks, but had finals which might've contributed. I'm really at a loss as to what do to. The only time I seem to lose is when I go on extreme deficit.
12-20-2007, 04:25 PM
12-20-2007, 04:40 PM
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12-21-2007, 01:18 PM
12-30-2007, 05:50 PM
I have been sick since Christmas day, so I haven't any updates or been taking any supps (stomach virus or food poisoning). I started back on everything today and plan on getting back in the gym tomorrow.
12-30-2007, 05:52 PM
12-30-2007, 06:30 PM
Is Leviathan Reloaded good for blocking cortisol?
12-30-2007, 11:33 PM
Also, any input on appetite suppressors (e.g. Zappetite)?
12-31-2007, 10:27 AM
01-01-2008, 12:00 PM
01-01-2008, 12:00 PM
Subbbed by the way. Good thread!
01-01-2008, 10:35 PM
01-02-2008, 12:16 AM
If you've got a bit of fat on the pecs -- as most men, including myself tend to -- rubbing a few squirts of Napalm will definitely help you reduce the fat in that area and bring out a little more definition.
01-08-2008, 07:05 PM
Well, no significant updates. I got laid off last week, so my eating has been out of cadence and diet a little out of whack. Was about 284lbs this morning.
01-08-2008, 07:35 PM
01-09-2008, 05:35 PM
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