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  1.  12-13-2007  10:07 AM
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    Fatloss Stack?


    My weight has been stagnant for the most part after trying different diet techniques and various stim fat burners. Was wanting input on some other products I was thinking of stacking:

    RPN DCP and Anabolix Extreme Retain 2

    I would appreciate any feedback on these products. I'm open to suggestions as well.



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    Originally Posted by jrm View Post
    My weight has been stagnant for the most part after trying different diet techniques and various stim fat burners. Was wanting input on some other products I was thinking of stacking:

    RPN DCP and Anabolix Extreme Retain 2

    I would appreciate any feedback on these products. I'm open to suggestions as well.
    If you have been experimenting with stim fat burners you may definately want to run reset AD by Palo Alto Labs for a month standalone before starting anything new. The new Leviathan Reloaded is pretty good as a stim fat burner. DCP and retain would be good to run alongside reset ad while you reset your adrenals and drop cortisol levels. something else you may want to look into is "basic cuts". It contains caffiene(stim) and PEA(focus enhancer/cortisol reducer). I am currently using basic cuts, hoodia, and DCP on a cut. All the supp I named you can get from nutraplanet for a sum total of less than $100 prolly

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  3.  12-13-2007  11:35 AM
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    Thank you for your reply. I have actually already used the original Leviathan at 5 a day, but unfortunately didn't see any significant results. I have been using Reset AD for a while now as well. I have never tried a cortisol blocker/reducer which is why I was considering it.

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    Originally Posted by jrm View Post
    Thank you for your reply. I have actually already used the original Leviathan at 5 a day, but unfortunately didn't see any significant results. I have been using Reset AD for a while now as well. I have never tried a cortisol blocker/reducer which is why I was considering it.
    If it is mostly abdominal fat (IE you have decent vascularity elsewhere yet a seemingly disproportionate amount of abdominal fat) then it is likely cortisol and/or estrogen related. Give the retain a shot, I think you'll like the results.

  5.  12-13-2007  02:07 PM
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    Abdomin is flat, but fat is there. Obliques too...and chest fat. Everything else is good. I have taken anti-estrogen (6-OXO and a few others) but never had any luck (no significant change).

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    DCP + a forsalean product + Relora

    Taking it further

    Sesathin + CLA

  7.  12-13-2007  09:14 PM
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    I'm not familiar with most of that, but will look into it next chance I get.

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    I have started to really enjoy DCP pre-cardio. Anyway you said you have been trying different diet techniques, have you stuck to a plan consistently for a good period to see results?

  9.  12-14-2007  07:28 AM
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    Isn't DCP non-stim based; what's the advantage taking it pre-cardio?

    The least amount of time I've stayed on a diet was in six week intervals.

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    Originally Posted by jrm View Post
    Isn't DCP non-stim based; what's the advantage taking it pre-cardio?

    The least amount of time I've stayed on a diet was in six week intervals.
    The advantage is PLCAR boosts energy production, pyruvate helps with cramps and endurance, TTA frees up fat (making it available for metabolism)

    Very simplified, someone from RPN will be here to make it more literal, but I figured I'd say something for you to read while you wait... And if I am wrong get corrected and learn something.

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    Originally Posted by jrm View Post
    Isn't DCP non-stim based; what's the advantage taking it pre-cardio?

    The least amount of time I've stayed on a diet was in six week intervals.
    Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    The advantage is PLCAR boosts energy production, pyruvate helps with cramps and endurance, TTA frees up fat (making it available for metabolism)

    Very simplified, someone from RPN will be here to make it more literal, but I figured I'd say something for you to read while you wait... And if I am wrong get corrected and learn something.
    Thanks for helping out in the interim nelix

    JRM - the reason for DCP to be taken pre-workout/cardio is that the PLCAR helps with managing general fatigue i.e. assists you with working out for longer, there is a slight thermo effect from the raspberry ketones. The TTA will also be doing its job to mobilise those fat cells and get them primed for fat burning. You have to try it to feel it. It is very noticeable, I have been taking it about 20mins pre-workout and sweat, literally dripping compared to if I didn't take it.

  12.  12-16-2007  03:29 PM
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    So....would the DCP (for fatloss) and Retain 2 (for cortisol contol) be a good stack? I would like to place an order tonight, so please let me know!

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    Yeah it would be a good stack. I personally like cort blockers alot. Transdermal 7 cort is a good one and primordials looks really good but really expensive. I think it has 7 oxo plus other things in it to boost fat loss. Oh and I almost forgot to mention napalm. Its for spot reduction of fat. If you just have a few troubled areas it may be the way to go. I've only been using it for a short time but It appears that my love handles are shrinking already.

  14.  12-16-2007  10:02 PM
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    Just ordered the Retain 2 and DCP along with some other goodies.

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    Sounds good, are you keeping a log of your progress somewhere?

  16.  12-19-2007  10:51 AM
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    Honestly, I hadn't really thought about it. I have only logged once before and didn't get much feedback.

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    its funny no one is reccomending 11-oxo anymore.... do we hate PA that much???

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    I like PA.

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    Got the DCP and Retain 2 in today, along with my normal supps. Will be starting it tomorrow.

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    Originally Posted by jrm View Post
    Got the DCP and Retain 2 in today, along with my normal supps. Will be starting it tomorrow.
    i personally would like to hear your results/feelings on the stack... i ordered the same (well almost the same stack )

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