TTA and DCP Feedback

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    Ok, so ive been taking DCP for about three weeks and ive noticed i look a little puffier. I heard from one of my friends that its normal to get water bloat while taking a TTA product. So my question is has anyone else experienced this bloating side effect, and if so, after you stopped taking this product did you look leaner than when you started. Thanks in advance.


  2. Some people do hold a little water while using DCP. It should go away a few days after you stop taking it.

  3. Could you comment on the endurance properties some report using DCP? I used it late last year, but it was during a change in training protocols... so I couldn't really judge how my endurance was improved with the product.

    Some users have stated that DCP increases endurance, but I've also read the exact opposite. For a runner, what would you say? Yea or nay
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  4. I think it screws around with your endurance cause ive been getting more cramps from the TTA.

    Anybody else have any input on your results with DCP?

  5. I can take 3grams a day, and I get no cramps, until about 3 weeks in.. they can come on strong, just lay off to 1.5g of TTA and its fine...

  6. Bulk TTA gave me horrific cramps
    DCP = no cramps, and the increased endurance people speak of from DCP is the PCAR

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602 View Post
    Could you comment on the endurance properties some report using DCP? I used it late last year, but it was during a change in training protocols... so I couldn't really judge how my endurance was improved with the product.

    Some users have stated that DCP increases endurance, but I've also read the exact opposite. For a runner, what would you say? Yea or nay
    McBurly has it correct. PLCAR is used to treat Chronic fatigue, and has a special affinity for both muscle and cardiac cells, increasing fuel availability to them. In addition, the propionate ester is cleaved and formed in Succinate, which is a vitall KREBS intermediate. The combination VASTLY increases endurance.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by AtomSmasher View Post
    I think it screws around with your endurance cause ive been getting more cramps from the TTA.

    Anybody else have any input on your results with DCP?
    I do not think a direct comparison between TTA and DCP is fair. As you know, TTA is a compound in DCP. TTA is known to cause cramps in some individuals. For precisely this reason, DCP contains Potassium Pyruvate, an advanced potassium form, to neutralize this cramping effect.
    In terms of endurance, I can postulate at least one pathway through which DCP can produce an enhancement in endurance levels. DCP contains Priopionyl-L-Carnitine. Propionyl-l-carnitine has a special affinity for heart, endothelial, and muscle cells. It quickly penetrates these tissues and delivers benefits ranging from the protection of heart muscles to neutralizing fatigue via elevation of muscle glycogen stores. This is important. Furthermore, the potassium in DCP may help to stabilize electrolyte levels in the body, leading to performance enhancement. Something else: The bonding of potassium to pyruvate may also contribute to energy metabolism. As you recall, pyruvate is an intermediate of the Krebs-Cycle, a crucial component of energy metabolism.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    McBurly has it correct. PLCAR is used to treat Chronic fatigue, and has a special affinity for both muscle and cardiac cells, increasing fuel availability to them. In addition, the propionate ester is cleaved and formed in Succinate, which is a vitall KREBS intermediate. The combination VASTLY increases endurance.
    Dsade! Your contribution turned up while I was busy re-writing and polishing mine!
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    I do not think a direct comparison between TTA and DCP is fair. As you know, TTA is a compound in DCP. TTA is known to cause cramps in some individuals. For precisely this reason, DCP contains Potassium Pyruvate, an advanced potassium form, to neutralize this cramping effect.
    In terms of endurance, I can postulate at least one pathway through which DCP can produce an enhancement in endurance levels. DCP contains Priopionyl-L-Carnitine. Propionyl-l-carnitine has a special affinity for heart, endothelial, and muscle cells. It quickly penetrates these tissues and delivers benefits ranging from the protection of heart muscles to neutralizing fatigue via elevation of muscle glycogen stores. This is important. Furthermore, the potassium in DCP may help to stabilize electrolyte levels in the body, leading to performance enhancement. Something else: The bonding of potassium to pyruvate may also contribute to energy metabolism. As you recall, pyruvate is an intermediate of the Krebs-Cycle, a crucial component of energy metabolism.
    Ahh good posting, now I don't have to comment!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Dsade! Your contribution turned up while I was busy re-writing and polishing mine!
    Gotta hand it to you, though...yours was better written.
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  12. DCP is da bomb! I get better errections, wicked endurance, prevention of fat storage and some good fatloss, i find my sweet spot is 10 caps/day, i LOVE this stuff, everyone should be on it.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    DCP is da bomb! I get better errections, wicked endurance, prevention of fat storage and some good fatloss, i find my sweet spot is 10 caps/day, i LOVE this stuff, everyone should be on it.
    I am currently on 9 caps per day. I would have loved to go beyond this, but I have only three tubs that I want to take for three months straight for my stack. Wish I had the flexibility to increase my daily dose to 12 per day.
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  14. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Ahh good posting, now I don't have to comment!
    wait can you translate his for me? too many big words in it
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  15. thanks guys for the feedback, im excited to see how lean ill be after the water gain goes away.l

  16. Quote Originally Posted by AtomSmasher View Post
    thanks guys for the feedback, im excited to see how lean ill be after the water gain goes away.l
    Give it one to two weeks to clear

    :bruce3:

  17. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    wait can you translate his for me? too many big words in it
    For instance? . Cellar, by the way, is a recommended translator and decoder
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by asianbabe View Post
    Give it one to two weeks to clear

    :bruce3:
    Sounds good!
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  19. If you wanna ditch the water now, you could try Showtime but I don't imagine it will do good things for cramps.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    If you wanna ditch the water now, you could try Showtime but I don't imagine it will do good things for cramps.
    TTA + Showtime =
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    TTA + Showtime =
    Hehe.

  22. Is everyone else getting this bloat/edema? And what's it from?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Is everyone else getting this bloat/edema? And what's it from?
    It's the TTA
  24. Never enough
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    I've been taking in 3g+ a day of TTA (with some from DCP, some from bulk) for about a month now, and i'm hoping I have some bloat so that when I stop I look even leaner after the water disappears
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  25. bloat from DCP... thats not what i want to hear. I just picked up a bottle along with that amazing xtend deal going on right now thinking it would make me look leaner, not puffy.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by powerhouse21 View Post
    bloat from DCP... thats not what i want to hear. I just picked up a bottle along with that amazing xtend deal going on right now thinking it would make me look leaner, not puffy.
    I don't get very much bloat on DCP at all. Perhaps with higher doses of TTA it would cause some more prominent effects of bloating, but the amount we used shouldn't pose such a problem for bloat if you don't add extra TTA into it. Arguably the extra TTA could help further fat loss though, this is a trade off that we took, and added in other ingredients to support fat loss so you don't need as much TTA.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    It's the TTA
    And that is one advantage of preferring a well-rounded formula such as DCP to concentrating on single compounds such as TTA.
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  28. so my DCP will be here today. What would be a good starting dose.

  29. A good starting dose would be 4 in the am 2 before workout or in the afternoon and 2 in the evening. Then you can adjust your dose as needed.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by powerhouse21 View Post
    so my DCP will be here today. What would be a good starting dose.
    Recommended dosage is 6 caps, and that is a good starting point. After assessing tolerance, add another capsules to your preworkout dose (for increased endurance and fat burning).

    Afterwards, if you want to increase further and you know for a fact you will be eating a less-than-stellar meal, add another capsule before that meal.
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  31. alright thanks. As far as tolerance are you referring to the
    TTA and cramps?

  32. Quote Originally Posted by powerhouse21 View Post
    alright thanks. As far as tolerance are you referring to the
    TTA and cramps?
    Yes, as well as any other effects you notice (though there shouldn't be too many other side effects.)
  

  
 

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