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    The "Cant loose fat on my abs" club!


    Seriously, dose anyone else have this problem? Like last year i dieted for 10 weeks and my abs were just ok. I mean my obliques were ripped as hell but just down the middle of my stomach i CANT loose fat. Its so goddamn frustrating. I mean i can loose fat on my stomach but it is THE LAST to go. I would probably have to diet for like 15 weeks which i wont do untill i compeat...

    Just ordered some Napalm and im HOPING TO GOD that it solves my problems

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    Have you thought about a major calorie deficit running and an ECA stack thats what im doing and im getting ripped as heck. sorry i would have joined your club a a couple months ago, but i dont qualify anymore!Hope this helps and good luck!(You can Pm me your diet and i can guarantee i can diagnose the problem(if you want)
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    Have you thought about a major calorie deficit running and an ECA stack thats what im doing and im getting ripped as heck. sorry i would have joined your club a a couple months ago, but i dont qualify anymore!Hope this helps and good luck!(You can Pm me your diet and i can guarantee i can diagnose the problem(if you want)
    Naw, my diet is in check. I can get ripped everywhere else but my stomach fat is soooo stubborn. Im not making excuses tho, i just gotta diet longer. Im actually gonna be running a huge stack coming up pretty soon (including EC and Napalm)

    Im gonna start doing ab work 3x a week now. Might not do anything but its worth a try
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    Actually im doing a training split imitating victor martinez 10 weeks out before mr olympia and abs and calves are worked every other day. The split is awesome and has done much good!
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    Count me in. I've been deifcit for over a month seeing very little progress. I am dealing with some injuries which have slowed training, but I'm eating so little (1250-1750 cals). Worst thing is, I've been leaner than this before. Good luck bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    Actually im doing a training split imitating victor martinez 10 weeks out before mr olympia and abs and calves are worked every other day. The split is awesome and has done much good!
    im actually gonna try that (for the abs)

    what sort of rep/set ranges are you using? And are you doing upper/middle/lower abs and oblique every other day? or splitting them up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool View Post
    Count me in. I've been deifcit for over a month seeing very little progress. I am dealing with some injuries which have slowed training, but I'm eating so little (1250-1750 cals). Worst thing is, I've been leaner than this before. Good luck bro.
    Yeah dude, it really sucks. Im only dieting at 2700 tho Gonna bump it up to 2800-2900 tho cause i lost 2.6 lbs this week
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    im actually gonna try that (for the abs)

    what sort of rep/set ranges are you using? And are you doing upper/middle/lower abs and oblique every other day? or splitting them up?
    sidebends(obliques): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)

    I had to work up to this, I also am preparing for my return to boxing(gotta have the strong core)!

    Hope this helps Good luck dont forget squats and deadlifts (heavy and high reps) will help you get those abs, and finally don't forget running!
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Yeah dude, it really sucks. Im only dieting at 2700 tho Gonna bump it up to 2800-2900 tho cause i lost 2.6 lbs this week
    lol dang man ecto i dont have that problem!2.6 lbs in a week would be crazy!(in a bad way)!!
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    I am so joining this club. Basicall have cut my calories down quite a bit, as well as carb intake. Started cardio (first time ever) gonna run an EC stack soon as well. I think I have abs, but its kinda like the easter bunny, he might exist, Ive just never seen him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freqfly View Post
    I am so joining this club. Basicall have cut my calories down quite a bit, as well as carb intake. Started cardio (first time ever) gonna run an EC stack soon as well. I think I have abs, but its kinda like the easter bunny, he might exist, Ive just never seen him.
    lol nice man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freqfly View Post
    I am so joining this club. Basicall have cut my calories down quite a bit, as well as carb intake. Started cardio (first time ever) gonna run an EC stack soon as well. I think I have abs, but its kinda like the easter bunny, he might exist, Ive just never seen him.
    yeah dude, im an insane ecto. Im the only ecto i know who doesnt have abs tho wtf. Im lean everywhere except abs I mean im gonna be cutting on ****ing 2900 at 187 lbs (got up to 198 on my bulk) which is insane! (plus 2 carb ups a week!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    sidebends(obliques): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)

    I had to work up to this, I also am preparing for my return to boxing(gotta have the strong core)!

    Hope this helps Good luck dont forget squats and deadlifts (heavy and high reps) will help you get those abs, and finally don't forget running!
    Yeah, i would say my core is pretty strong. Hit a PR on front squats (285x3) 3 weeks ago now and deloading for 4 weeks tho.
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    I would def attribute my abs to carb cycling followed by extremely low carbs for a week or so, a strict diet,the ECA stack, and constant work!
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    carb cyceling is how I got my abbs to finally "POP". I always had some fat arouns my belly button almost it was like an oval that went to my upper abbs and the split between my lower. Odd I know. After a few weeks of carb cycleing (similar to CKD) the next carb load they really popped out good.

    That and I usually have a lot of water retention, what I love creatine monohydrate
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    I have resorted to Lipo-U with cap to try to get my abs to finally show. It's so painful, but, hopefully, it will be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I have resorted to Lipo-U with cap to try to get my abs to finally show. It's so painful, but, hopefully, it will be worth it.
    wait what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    wait what?
    Adding capsaicin to the Lipo-U carrier helps to increase lipolysis to the area. Hurts like hell, but it increases thermogenesis.
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    yea you really have to work hard while cutting in otder to get that cut look!
    For instance here's todays workout log:
    Dead lifts(4 sets) 215-225lbs 13-15 reps
    Squats(3sets,total)245lbs 15 reps(2sets),265lbs 12 reps(1set)
    LegExt.(3sets)160lbs 12 reps
    sidebends(obliques)(50lbs): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)
    CalveRaises(3 sets):60lbs in each hand)
    This was followed by a 40 min run(also did 7 100 yard sprints half way through)

    Today was a bit long and not something i do everyday the sprints are only once a week but the 40 min run is 5-6 times a week(maybe longer) Although I try to get a 10 miler in at least once a week)
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    yea you really have to work hard while cutting in otder to get that cut look!
    For instance here's todays workout log:
    Dead lifts(4 sets) 215-225lbs 13-15 reps
    Squats(3sets,total)245lbs 15 reps(2sets),265lbs 12 reps(1set)
    LegExt.(3sets)160lbs 12 reps
    sidebends(obliques)(50lbs): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)
    CalveRaises(3 sets):60lbs in each hand)
    This was followed by a 40 min run(also did 7 100 yard sprints half way through)

    Today was a bit long and not something i do everyday the sprints are only once a week but the 40 min run is 5-6 times a week(maybe longer) Although I try to get a 10 miler in at least once a week)
    Trust me, it is not from a lack of training. I hold fat around my midsection more so than others. I am sure I have a high number of alpha-2 receptors, but I am doing my best to fight genetics.
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    Yea I feel ya guys.....I cant get that roll off either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Yea I feel ya guys.....I cant get that roll off either...
    This coming from the guy who is visibly ripped...

    Bastard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Trust me, it is not from a lack of training. I hold fat around my midsection more so than others. I am sure I have a high number of alpha-2 receptors, but I am doing my best to fight genetics.
    yea I had to fight genetics as well but as soon as i got on right diet training plan etc everything fell into place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Adding capsaicin to the Lipo-U carrier helps to increase lipolysis to the area. Hurts like hell, but it increases thermogenesis.
    Hmmm, havnt heard of them. Couldnt find Lipo U or capsaicin at NP. Why does it hurt?

    have u tried napalm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    yea you really have to work hard while cutting in otder to get that cut look!
    For instance here's todays workout log:
    Dead lifts(4 sets) 215-225lbs 13-15 reps
    Squats(3sets,total)245lbs 15 reps(2sets),265lbs 12 reps(1set)
    LegExt.(3sets)160lbs 12 reps
    sidebends(obliques)(50lbs): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)
    CalveRaises(3 sets):60lbs in each hand)
    This was followed by a 40 min run(also did 7 100 yard sprints half way through)

    Today was a bit long and not something i do everyday the sprints are only once a week but the 40 min run is 5-6 times a week(maybe longer) Although I try to get a 10 miler in at least once a week)

    IMO its WAY more about diet...and genetics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    IMO its WAY more about diet...and genetics...
    I'm with you there

    O and TripDog you get a big one of these bro hahaha
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    yea I agree whole heartedly and once you have those in check you can worry about training
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Hmmm, havnt heard of them. Couldnt find Lipo U or capsaicin at NP. Why does it hurt?

    have u tried napalm?
    Haven't tried Napalm, yet. Lipoderm-Ultra is also a topical fat-loss solution and the capsaicin cream is basically rep pepper cream (think icy-hot without the icy and much more hot). I am using this since I had it in the cabinet and I will be using Napalm after I done with this bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Haven't tried Napalm, yet. Lipoderm-Ultra is also a topical fat-loss solution and the capsaicin cream is basically rep pepper cream (think icy-hot without the icy and much more hot). I am using this since I had it in the cabinet and I will be using Napalm after I done with this bottle.
    can you link me to some capsaicin? im going all out this year for the abs!

    I might actually try carb cycling tho, see how that works...
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    can you link me to some capsaicin? im going all out this year for the abs!

    I might actually try carb cycling tho, see how that works...
    You can find it at the grocery store by the topical analgesics.
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    just stick with the Napalm (has raspberry ketones, which is comparable to capsaicin yet without the extreme burn).

    carb cycle

    calorie cycle between maintenance and deficit

    morning cardio
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    Have you been doing cardio? I didn't see that you mentioned anything about cardio yet.

    It is a must!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602 View Post
    Have you been doing cardio? I didn't see that you mentioned anything about cardio yet.

    It is a must!
    Uh Hell Yea!!!! Your not gonna loose sh*t without some interval cardio (90% max) and a clean diet low in sugar,and sat fats.
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    I agree that you do need cardio, but I don't know if I agree that HIIT is the only way to get rid of the fat. I never did any HIIT during my contest prep.
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    Last year when i dieted for the first 4 weeks when i had my best results i barely did any cardio.

    But i do HIIT 3x a week.
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    i may as well jump aboard. ive been dieting around 17 weeks now and the front of my abs are still blocked by a layer of fat. i can see the top ones good after a workout or under the right light, and i have veins around the sides, on my hips, and my obliques. but no abs fully from the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnus19 View Post
    i may as well jump aboard. ive been dieting around 17 weeks now and the front of my abs are still blocked by a layer of fat. i can see the top ones good after a workout or under the right light, and i have veins around the sides, on my hips, and my obliques. but no abs fully from the front.
    Have you tried any topical fat loss products?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Have you tried any topical fat loss products?
    i used Lipoderm Ultra earlier on in the cut, and i believe it did help alot. i noticed i lost more fat from the areas i put it on than i have on any other cut. i just wish i had held off on it a few more weeks til i was leaner.
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    You should look into trying some Napalm. Even though it's not a replacement for Lipo-U, a lot of people have said they like it even better.
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