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    ephedra product still out ??


    I have been searching online and I see ephedra products.. are they real?? or some knock off?


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    depends what you're looking at. if the product contains ephedra leaves, then it's what you call a "knock off". it's a scam, it doesn't work. Yes! phedra is in there, but the leaves are inactive for burning fat. the key words you are looking for are "alkaloids", "ephedrine HCl", and "ephredrine sulfate."

    most ephedrine alkaloid-based fat burners are off the market since (i believe) they are currently banned. anything that's marketed as a fat burner with ephedra is banned. some places have it on the shelves cause some guy bought the entire stock from the factory of, hmm... lipodrene I believe. and now he's selling it to stores. they won't get any more of the real stuff nowadays, from here on out all the stores online and retail are just leaving the fat burners on the shelves until they are all sold out.

    want the real goods, legally? go to rite aid or a local drug store and pick up some bronkaid. it's got 25mg of ephedra sulfate in there and it's legit. just tell the pharmacist that it's for your asthma ;-) there's no sign of it being banned or discontinued as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrotechnik View Post
    depends what you're looking at. if the product contains ephedra leaves, then it's what you call a "knock off". it's a scam, it doesn't work. Yes! phedra is in there, but the leaves are inactive for burning fat. the key words you are looking for are "alkaloids", "ephedrine HCl", and "ephredrine sulfate."

    most ephedrine alkaloid-based fat burners are off the market since (i believe) they are currently banned. anything that's marketed as a fat burner with ephedra is banned. some places have it on the shelves cause some guy bought the entire stock from the factory of, hmm... lipodrene I believe. and now he's selling it to stores. they won't get any more of the real stuff nowadays, from here on out all the stores online and retail are just leaving the fat burners on the shelves until they are all sold out.

    want the real goods, legally? go to rite aid or a local drug store and pick up some bronkaid. it's got 25mg of ephedra sulfate in there and it's legit. just tell the pharmacist that it's for your asthma ;-) there's no sign of it being banned or discontinued as of yet.
    thanks for the long valuable information

    any other ones beside lipodrene you would recommend?
    and I noticed there is no white willow bark in it, does that still make it an "ECA STACK"??

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    I just ordered 200 30mg ephedrine pills for $57 including shipping 1 minute ago!
    which ones did you get??

    and was it a "ephedra sulfate" "ephedrine HCL" or an "alkloid"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrotechnik View Post
    depends what you're looking at. if the product contains ephedra leaves, then it's what you call a "knock off". it's a scam, it doesn't work. Yes! phedra is in there, but the leaves are inactive for burning fat. the key words you are looking for are "alkaloids", "ephedrine HCl", and "ephredrine sulfate."

    most ephedrine alkaloid-based fat burners are off the market since (i believe) they are currently banned. anything that's marketed as a fat burner with ephedra is banned. some places have it on the shelves cause some guy bought the entire stock from the factory of, hmm... lipodrene I believe. and now he's selling it to stores. they won't get any more of the real stuff nowadays, from here on out all the stores online and retail are just leaving the fat burners on the shelves until they are all sold out.

    want the real goods, legally? go to rite aid or a local drug store and pick up some bronkaid. it's got 25mg of ephedra sulfate in there and it's legit. just tell the pharmacist that it's for your asthma ;-) there's no sign of it being banned or discontinued as of yet.

    what if it is a "mu huang extract"??

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    I was recommended Bronkaid and Primatene, but choose one. Both are Ephedrine.

    I heard they're both great products for extra energy and fat burning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    what if it is a "mu huang extract"??
    yeah, that's good too, but that only mentions the name of the plant. it's essentially saying there's "ephedra extract" in there, so you don't necessarily know if there's the active ingredients there. I personally wouldn't go with anything that DOESN'T have those keywords on the label because otherwise you don't know what you're getting. muscleguy was right, primatene works well too. I wouldn't recommend buying commercial fat burners nowadays just because of their price and rarity. I saw a bottle at my local supplement store for $80 when they were $40 pre-ban. others you could try out are stimerex, metabolife, xenadrine rfa-1, hydroxycut (ORIGINAL!!), blah blah blah... there's loads. the point is, get something that works. try to find something with an ECA stack (there's plenty ofthreads here that talk about that) cause that'll work best for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    I was recommended Bronkaid and Primatene, but choose one. Both are Ephedrine.

    I heard they're both great products for extra energy and fat burning.
    I can just ask the pharmacist for the Bronkaid without a prescription??

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    ephedrine has never required a prescription

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrotechnik View Post
    yeah, that's good too, but that only mentions the name of the plant. it's essentially saying there's "ephedra extract" in there, so you don't necessarily know if there's the active ingredients there. I personally wouldn't go with anything that DOESN'T have those keywords on the label because otherwise you don't know what you're getting. muscleguy was right, primatene works well too. I wouldn't recommend buying commercial fat burners nowadays just because of their price and rarity. I saw a bottle at my local supplement store for $80 when they were $40 pre-ban. others you could try out are stimerex, metabolife, xenadrine rfa-1, hydroxycut (ORIGINAL!!), blah blah blah... there's loads. the point is, get something that works. try to find something with an ECA stack (there's plenty ofthreads here that talk about that) cause that'll work best for you.

    What do you think of this product its called

    Tri methyl lean

    Active Ingredients Amount Per Serving
    Ma Huang extract (aerial part)
    (Standardized for 10mg of naturally occuring ephedrine group alkaloids) 250 mg
    Chromium (as polynicotinate) 150 mg
    Vitamin B3 (as niacin) 20 mg
    White Willow extract (bark)
    (Standardized for 15mg of salicin) 100 mg
    Trimethylxanthine anyhydrous (caffeine) 150 mg
    Proprietary Blend:
    Bitter orange extract (fruit) (standardized for 20mg of synepherine alkaloids), Coleus Forskholii Extract
    Alpha Lipoic Acid
    Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL
    Yohimbe extract (standardized for 2mg of yohimbe alkaloids)
    N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine
    DMAE
    Ipriflavone
    Naringin extract (fruit)
    Octopamine
    Evodiomine Rhodiola Rosae (standardized for
    Salidrosides and rosavins)
    L-Citrulline Malate
    Gelatin
    Cellulose
    Magnesium stearate
    Silica 305 mg



    Since there is no hoodia in it im gonna purchase some cheap ones to control hunger.any ones you recommend?? thanks again for the advice.. Im kinda new to cutting..this is my first time cutting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    I can just ask the pharmacist for the Bronkaid without a prescription??
    Of course you can.

    I believe Ephedrine is only shunned by sports organizations, probably even college and/or high school sports. Only because of so many athletes dropping dead by overdosing on it. It's a shame that some people insist on using irresponsibly.

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    Stimerex-ES is the best fat loss product I have tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    What do you think of this product its called

    Tri methyl lean

    Active Ingredients Amount Per Serving
    Ma Huang extract (aerial part)
    (Standardized for 10mg of naturally occuring ephedrine group alkaloids) 250 mg
    Chromium (as polynicotinate) 150 mg
    Vitamin B3 (as niacin) 20 mg
    White Willow extract (bark)
    (Standardized for 15mg of salicin) 100 mg
    Trimethylxanthine anyhydrous (caffeine) 150 mg
    Proprietary Blend:
    Bitter orange extract (fruit) (standardized for 20mg of synepherine alkaloids), Coleus Forskholii Extract
    Alpha Lipoic Acid
    Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL
    Yohimbe extract (standardized for 2mg of yohimbe alkaloids)
    N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine
    DMAE
    Ipriflavone
    Naringin extract (fruit)
    Octopamine
    Evodiomine Rhodiola Rosae (standardized for
    Salidrosides and rosavins)
    L-Citrulline Malate
    Gelatin
    Cellulose
    Magnesium stearate
    Silica 305 mg



    Since there is no hoodia in it im gonna purchase some cheap ones to control hunger.any ones you recommend?? thanks again for the advice.. Im kinda new to cutting..this is my first time cutting!
    If you wanted to, then you could create your own capsule. Just go to www.customcapsule.com. I've come up with a few formulas of my own, but I have yet to actually purchase them and distribute them. Tons of ingredients are involved, but high quality ones and heavy amounts. You can throw in anything you want. You choose the ingredients, the quantity, etc. It's not a bad deal.

    I've also heard that Raspberry Ketones do a good job at kicking appetite suppressing and fat burning in the nuts.

    I've heard that Hydroxycut Hardcore is really good from several people who go to my gym. I've taken Hydroxycut, which seemed to help somewhat. The regular, not the Hardcore nor the Caffeine-Free kind. I'll be taking either Bronkaid or Primatene during my PCT, a couple of months from now. After my Epi cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Stimerex-ES is the best fat loss product I have tried.
    is this an ephedra product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    is this an ephedra product?

    Yes it is.

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    muscle guy whats your bodyfat????did your abs become more visible from the bronkaid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    which ones did you get??

    and was it a "ephedra sulfate" "ephedrine HCL" or an "alkloid"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    hcl
    oh okay

    I think i found the product im gonna use.

    It's tr-methyl lean only 10 g of ephederine.. Im gonna start really low because its my first time.. what do you think of the tri-methyl lean?

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    10mg hahaaha thats noteven1 pill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    10mg hahaaha thats noteven1 pill!
    10 mg is not one pill?? 1 capsule is one serving of all the ingrediants listed above

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    oh okay

    I think i found the product im gonna use.

    It's tr-methyl lean only 10 g of ephederine.. Im gonna start really low because its my first time.. what do you think of the tri-methyl lean?
    thats pretty damn low man, usually there 25mg

    mine are 30mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    thats pretty damn low man, usually there 25mg

    mine are 30mg
    i only weigh 130.. if the feeling is too mild ill double dose it..
    its my first time with ephedra I dont wanna over do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    i only weigh 130.. if the feeling is too mild ill double dose it..
    its my first time with ephedra I dont wanna over do it.
    130 and you are trying to lose fat?. You must be really short!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    130 and you are trying to lose fat?. You must be really short!.
    im 5 ft 4inches dont criticize yet.. Im going to post up some pics soon...

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    lol DANG! Your cutting at 130!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    lol DANG! Your cutting at 130!
    i was at 154lb.. with a 33 inch waist... and now im 130lbs with a 29 inch waist i just want to lose 1-2 more inches and thats it im going to clean bulk.. LOL seriously guys..come on..

    I have been cutting for 3 months.. the first month a ****ed around and drank alcohol while doing it. The following next two months i was very strict on diet, excercise and cardio. And now I want to just do one more month to lose that extra inch off of my waist. Maybe it will take me less than a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    i was at 154lb.. with a 33 inch waist... and now im 130lbs with a 29 inch waist i just want to lose 1-2 more inches and thats it im going to clean bulk.. LOL seriously guys..come on..

    I have been cutting for 3 months.. the first month a ****ed around and drank alcohol while doing it. The following next two months i was very strict on diet, excercise and cardio. And now I want to just do one more month to lose that extra inch off of my waist. Maybe it will take me less than a month.
    lol im just giving you a hardtime!

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    Rep for you for being such a good sport!

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    take the 25mg first and see how you react to it. If it is bearable then continue. Your body will adapt after a few weeks and the effects will become much less pronounced but the fat burning will continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGUNZ401 View Post
    im 5 ft 4inches dont criticize yet.. Im going to post up some pics soon...
    You can build yourself to be a 'power brick, **** house,' or however you say it. If you're 'cutting,' then try building mass at the same time. You'd be a little monster. There'd be no stopping you, with your height and packing on a lot of mass.

    I'm about 5'8'' or so. I think that's about average height nowadays?

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    if i were you i'd go with the tri methyl lean @ 10mg ephedra per pill for a couple days on one a day just to assess tolerence, although it's not really that much. with ephedra you really don't want to overdo it because if your height/weight. but after that i'd kick it up to 20mg ephedra per day.

    I'm just a fan of doing ephedra in lower doses daily because if you take it in high amounts it will likely cause nasty beta receptor downgrade (essentially making it hard to burn fat in the future).

    check this article out, it's pretty long but really informative. it's on clenbuterol but since ephedra and clen work a lot in the same way you can learn a lot from it (or at least I did).
    http://www.clenbuteral.com/

    the article recommends taking benadryl or ketotifen at night to keep your receptors happy and healthy. but man, after looking at the receptor downgrade after only 24 hours using ephedrine it's kinda scary :-P anyone know the half life of ephedrine? i'm currently on HCl if that matters at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    You can build yourself to be a 'power brick, **** house,' or however you say it. If you're 'cutting,' then try building mass at the same time. You'd be a little monster. There'd be no stopping you, with your height and packing on a lot of mass.

    I'm about 5'8'' or so. I think that's about average height nowadays?
    haha thanks for the motivation. cutting sucks. 1 more month and im done..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrotechnik View Post
    if i were you i'd go with the tri methyl lean @ 10mg ephedra per pill for a couple days on one a day just to assess tolerence, although it's not really that much. with ephedra you really don't want to overdo it because if your height/weight. but after that i'd kick it up to 20mg ephedra per day.

    I'm just a fan of doing ephedra in lower doses daily because if you take it in high amounts it will likely cause nasty beta receptor downgrade (essentially making it hard to burn fat in the future).

    check this article out, it's pretty long but really informative. it's on clenbuterol but since ephedra and clen work a lot in the same way you can learn a lot from it (or at least I did).
    http://www.clenbuteral.com/

    the article recommends taking benadryl or ketotifen at night to keep your receptors happy and healthy. but man, after looking at the receptor downgrade after only 24 hours using ephedrine it's kinda scary :-P anyone know the half life of ephedrine? i'm currently on HCl if that matters at all.

    thanks for the help im going to order the tri methyl right now!!! and stack that **** with hoodia!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    I just ordered 200 30mg ephedrine pills for $57 including shipping 1 minute ago!
    200 30mg for $57 including shipping is incredible. I am sure someone will tell me that you can get more for less but I haven't found anyplace that cheap in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asap1 View Post
    200 30mg for $57 including shipping is incredible. I am sure someone will tell me that you can get more for less but I haven't found anyplace that cheap in a while.
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    Got my tri-methyl lean yesterday and tried it this morning.. that **** is pretty weak. I took two on an empty stomach and did some cardio and umm it as weak.. Wiizzzzeak!! Maybe Its because I have been consuming so much caffiene lately. Im gonna try 2 more later this evening!

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