Im ditching my keto diet

[ItsHectic]

I have gone from a pcf of 150:150:33 calorie deficit to a 150:20:90 calorie deficit, I cant sleep at night and I havent had a decent crap ever since starting it, despite metamucil and broccoli servings, but worst of all my strength has dropped. I am starting to think all the ketones in my piss are coming from those 90 grams of fat Im taking in, and my muscles are losing strength from the lack of carbs.
I sound like im whining, and I know I havent given it long enough but I wouldnt be changing my mind if I hadnt just read Tom Venutos view on keto diets.
Im going back to the drawing board, rereading BTFFTM and following it all the way.

[Nitrox]

Kudos for posting your experience with ultra-low carb dieting. The number of KD yeah-sayers has me wondering if it is some kind of cult.

[TripDog]

fukc that ****!! you need carbies bro............do bananas have carbs??????

the answer is you dam right they do!!!

so in retrospect.....can your sh!t be bananas without carbs???

ANSWER- NO

~trippy nanas

[Nitrox]

fukc that ****!! you need carbies bro............do bananas have carbs??????

the answer is you dam right they do!!!

so in retrospect.....can your sh!t be bananas without carbs???

ANSWER- NO

~trippy nanas

Damn Trip! Best pro-carb post ever. Reps

[ItsHectic]

LOL I actually read that bananas on a keto diet can actually contribute to constipation.

[BigVrunga]

When I was 240, I used a keto diet to get down to 225. It worked fast, but my strength went through the floor. After I read Venutos book I got down to 210, and maintained my strength just fine.

BV

[Lander]

I had a similar experience, but I ran Keto for 3 months straight, with carb ups every 3 weeks. Went from 225 to 200 and dont regret doing it, but I lost alot of mass. I also was tripped out by the craps... I would have a goat pellet size one once about every 3 days. I learned to accept it as part of the diet.

[thesinner]

From my experiences going keto/not keto, I find that my muscles are fuller looking when I take in an appreciable amount of carbs.

[45Caliber]

Too many carbs make me sluggish.

Are you eating enough total calories? I've never gotten weaker while going low-carb. Then again, I usually do a carb up day once a week or once every two weeks (depending on goals, etc).
If you haven't given up on low carbs completely, you should look into a cyclical keto diet.

[ItsHectic]

I have given up on low carb, I was expecting my weight to drop and strength to stay the same like most say but I actually put on a lb or 2 of fat.
I think I was doing CKD except it only lasted 4 days, I was gonna carb up today.
My body has always responded very well to low fat diets.

[macedaddy]

BTFFTM is an AWESOME BOOK!

[TripDog]

BTFFTM is an AWESOME BOOK!

oh god they got you too...........people you need carbs unless you wana look like some emo homo(not you crying emo)

[macedaddy]

oh god they got you too...........people you need carbs unless you wana look like some emo homo(not you crying emo)

the tom venuto book doesn't advocate low carbs! Trip i know you never learned to read, but have trauma read it TO YOU! It's good!

[ItsHectic]

The baseline diet in the book is pcf 25:55:20 - 30:50:20

[BigVrunga]

BTFFTM is an AWESOME BOOK!

That's the damn truth right there....

[TripDog]

the tom venuto book doesn't advocate low carbs! Trip i know you never learned to read, but have trauma read it TO YOU! It's good!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[nphocus]

If you are weak and sluggish on a "low carb" diet, try measuring your Complete Total carb intake again. Even eggs have carbs. Broccolli has carbs. I was on a low carb diet, sub 200gr of carbs for about a month, I cut 15lbs, but I felt like ish and my lifts weren't any better. Funny thing about individuals and carbs. Your ****ing brain thinks it needs them, just like small children think they need candy. They're both wrong. Your brain tells your body to either burn carbs, or burn fat/ketones (ketogenic diet). Depending on how carb sensative you are, you may be confusing the **** out of your brain and it may be cycling constantly between the two. Second thing about low carb AND no carb. When you go that route, you run the risk of depleting your liver's levels of T3, which require actual carbohydrates to produce, whereas your ****ing brain can run off of Carbs OR Ketones/Fat, but not both. That transistion(ing) is what makes you feel blah.

Instead of low carb, I strongly suggest trying No Carbs, like no ****ing carbs at ****ing all. Try to keep it under 25gr. Switch to a wpi that should have no carbs or less than 5. Increase your fat intake to at least 15-20%, but not just ****ing fat fat, eat the good fats. Flax seed oil, fish oil, EFA and olive oil are your new best friend. If you felt like **** on low carbs, try no carbs before you give up on Ketogenic diets.

One thing to note, a cheat meal once per week is REQUIRED, not ****ing optional. That meal will replenish your liver's T3 levels and keep you growing. I feel great on no carbs and my lifts are better and I don't feel tired or blah.

Try it for 4 days and see how you feel. If you don't feel great by the 4th day, please flame me publicly.

[Bionic]

oh god they got you too...........people you need carbs unless you wana look like some emo homo(not you crying emo)

I got to the shape in my avvy with 0 carbs. Took a couple months and I kick-started it w/GXR but it works and it works well. I actually feel better and my muscles are harder while on 0 carbs.

[TripDog]

I got to the shape in my avvy with 0 carbs. Took a couple months and I kick-started it w/GXR but it works and it works well. I actually feel better and my muscles are harder while on 0 carbs.

and do you actually enjoy life this way????

[Bionic]

Yeah, pretty much. I just do what needs to be done to get what I want. I have a bottle of AP that I keep around to get me back into ketosis if I eat too many carbs. I just really enjoy the way I feel so that's enough for me to stay strict.