Has anyone used this? Some websites say its safe and some say that it is dangerous. Supposedly, it raises your metabolism by 30-50 percent!
ive read that it has the potential to boost metabolism by 100% and is dose dependent. from what ive researched, deaths have been associated to its use i wouldnt touch it...
The amount it raises your metabolism is proportional to the dosage. It is highly thermogenic and if you over dose you are deffinately going to feel it. If you do over dose, you need to get into a bath tub full of ice water!!!! or else your prolly going to die. Even at very low doses it can have dramatic effects on body temperature. From what I have read a lot of precaution should be used with this product cause if you dont gradually ramp up the dose to a comfortable level, your likely going to kill yourself!!! IMO this is one of the most dangerous compounds you could take, deffinately right up there with insulin!
It's one of the few diet products where death is an actually realistic possible side effect.
Hearing all of these wonderful things probably has you wondering what the side effects and risks are. They are quite formidable and contribute to making DNP one of the most intolerable (though effective) drugs used in bodybuilding. Starting with the most significant, and descending in importance, are the following risks and side effects of DNP use.
Overheating - There is no upper limit to DNP's body temperature increase, meaning that one may literally "cook from the inside" if they take too much. Dosage considerations will be given later, but even an overdose of 4-6 times the recommended dosage may be lethal. Much smaller overdoses may result in damage to the brain and/or other body systems.
Carcinogenesis - Phenols in general are reputed to be carcinogenic. Although 2,4-dinitrophenol has never been implicated in a cancer diagnosis, some are nonetheless concerned, and understandably so. In addition to the inherent carcinogenic potential caused by its status as a phenol, production of free radicals and the release of various compounds stored in adipose tissue stores during DNP's rapid oxidation of fat may also potentially be harmful.
Death - This is self-explanatory and has occurred with several bodybuilders who chose to use this compound.
Discomfort and sweating - This is the single most noticeable effect of DNP use, both by the user and those around him/her. Even in the winter, while indoors at ambient temperatures, one may expect his or her shirt to be completely soaked through with sweat. Those with jobs requiring formal or semi-formal apparel are advised to consider other means of fat loss (or a new job, if preferred). Other obvious considerations lie in the areas of social life, personal appearance, etc. and the user must prioritize.
Insomnia - Second in frequency of reports to sweating and discomfort is insomnia; this may be at least partially attributed to discomfort. Possible means of countering this include such supplements as Valerian root or melatonin. Alternatively, one may deal with this via prescription or OTC sleep medications or GHB-A precursors. However, these may be addictive if used on a regular basis and if their use may be avoided, by all means abstain from using them.
Yellow bodily fluids - Some don't notice this, but others find that all of their bodily fluids take on a yellowish appearance. Urine is a darker yellow, and even semen and vaginal secretions may be affected. According to current knowledge, this is not known to be harmful in and of itself.
Muscle Soreness - This is yet another thing that may be minimized via cerebral function. Dan Duchaine has recommended using a weight such as to allow no fewer than 15 reps per set of any weight training workout; judging from anecdotal reports and personal experience, this seems to be good advice. Low levels of ATP are a cause of muscle soreness in and of itself; the additional factor of encumbered recovery mechanisms make extreme soreness (and if not careful, catabolism) quite possible.
Allergic Reactions – These are highly individualized but may be summarily discussed. Various reactions are common with DNP use, and approximately 10% of users will be extremely allergic to it. Allergic reactions can include hives, blisters, and/or inexplicable rashes. If you suffer any of these side effects, and they are extremely bothersome, it is the recommendation of the author to cease usage immediately. If so desired, another trial may be made at a later date with a lower dosage, but do not attempt to continue the drug cycle at that point.
I thought it was bad because I never hear of anyone using it.
I know of a certain former mod that may have used DNP at one time....
this sounds awesome. how large is a small dose? couldi drop it in my bosses coffee???
Who in their right mind would risk death in order to lose fat?
yeah nobody will care if you have a 6 pack in a coffin
I tried it once and will never do it again, ever.
It was the worse one week experience, I threw out the rest. Threw up a good few times, felt like I had a minor bomb going off each dosage. Cold showers every half an hour and stained most of my bed sheets and pillow case.
I know a little over half a dozen people who have tried it. As long as you do it EXTREMLY carefully you will see results and not die! There have been studies with DNP taken for years at REALLY low doses. A recommended dose is 200mg a day for 2 weeks and then off for 2 weeks. Yes it is dangerous yes it CAN kill you but be careful and it is effective. People who die from it take ridiculous amounts such as 1g a day or were exposed to high amounts of it for long periods of time in the 30's when it was used as a pesticide. Out of the people i know who took it none of them died and all of them sheded fat like crazy. Be prepared to invest in fans and monitor your core temp every day a couple times a day! Do a lot of research before even considering touching the stuff there is a good FAQ about it over at bodybuilding.com under the steroid section(i know i know but its great info and something he should see) if you do still decide to take it make sure not to even come close to diuretics as that will kill you really fast (beer) even one can do a LOT of damage. Another thing is good luck finding it! if i could get some i would be using it. The guy who my friends used dried up he said it was too hard to cap because it does get everywhere and stains EVERYTHING bright yellow! According to him it even went through rubber dish washing gloves and a pair of surgical gloves. I hope this helps many people will respond to DNP with negative feedback who have never even tried it or seen it. It is one of those subjects that everyone hopped on the bandwagon and knows nothing about (think ephedra and the media) again be careful and do your own research!
so i could pour say 2 grams into a yellow gatorade and give to me manager yes?
COULD yes but he might die and you would have to live with that. To each his own but there are much easier ways to kill a man, and with easy to obtain chemicals. Try two drops of eyedrops in his drink i heard that is kinda fun.
You really have to change your lifestyle when on DNP.
Parties - out.
Basically anything where you are around a bunch of people. Too much of a chance of your body temperature really taking off.
i agree its dangerous... but as dangerous as insulin.. well i dont buy that one bit... with dnp you can ramp dosages and as long as you do it gradually and with common sense it should never be a problem... with insulin you could stay at a moderate dose for weeks at a time and be fine , all the sudden out of no where hypo raises its ugly head
I've used it with almost miraculous results. Not at all as bad as people say it is, not by a long shot. Sorry, but you have to be somewhat of an idiot to die on an appropriate dose of DNP... your body has no trouble throwing off excess heat and if you're monitoring your body temperature you really won't go above normal. Sides are also proportional to the amount you take. No one's gonna die on 200mg of DNP, yet it still boasts a 26% increase in metabolism and you're probably not going to feel the heat. Neither clen nor ephedrine can equal that, and as someone who's gone up to 600mg of DNP (temperature constantly monitored), I would never dream of touching clen.
I don't know why DNP has such a bad rap on this forum. Check out meso's forum... more people who've actually used it post there and you won't hear about its supposed reputation from someone who knows someone who knows someone who took it.
Last edited by NYhomeboy; 06-10-2007 at 11:16 PM.
I have used DNP extensively. Rather than lather your brain with my near-death experience, I'll refer you to a pdf I found some great time ago that I posted at Mind and Muscle (the second link is a direct link to the document. The former is a link to the post wherein it's contained)
Does that PDF exist anywhere else it says i have to join to read it and the link provided inside of the discussion is blank as well.
It won't allow me to upload the .pdf. Continually says 'upload failed'
Why not join M&M? It's a cool board, in a manner of speaking.