[Schwaugher]

Try searching for it as glycerine or vegetable glycerine as it is commonly listed in ingredients. And for the pyruvate search for calcium pyruvate. They are all just synonyms for one another.

[hardlyworkin]

anyone know if a board sponsor carries both of these?

[SprtNvolcoM]

I usually shop at Bulknutrition.com, but bodybuilding.com had the better deals this time around. That's where I got mine.

Be back later to update Log,
Sprt

[SprtNvolcoM]

Date: 02/14/06, Saturday (day 9)

Starting Weight: 192.8lbs (Morning Weigh)
Current Weight: 186.8 (Morning Weigh)
Total Loss 6.0lbs
BF% Unknown (15%-ish @ start)

Supplimints:
- DNP 200mg ED
- Benedryl 25mg ED
- Nolvadex 20mg ED
- Lipo-Ultra + CLEN Dermal: (read about it here: Lipderm-Ultra + Clen Info.)

Others:
- Multi Vitamin
- Vitamin B12
- Vitamin E
- Vitamin C
- Cranberry
- Milk Thistle
- Garlic
- Fish Oil
- Selenium
- Chromium
- Pyruvate
- Glycerol

Diet:
Diet is still on target. I haven't fallen off or eaten outside my pre-made/planned meal menu; this might change tonight, however, given it is V-Day (I have a nice dinner planned). Other than this, diet is tight. lol, Definitely getting the water intake I needed yesterday; as of now .5 gallon down.

Training:
None ... with the exception of morning cardio. I will be hitting the gym here in a few minutes, though, for a light full body workout (HST/DC).

Personal Note:
I'm feeling good this morning. Its day 9 @ 200mg ED and I have honestly not noticed any of the sides mentioned by other. That being said, however, my loses are slowing. I've decided to increase the dose to 400mg ED today. I'll be taking my second dose at 10pm tonight. I'll you all know what I think about 400mg tomorrow or in the following days.

I've also added CLEN to my lipoderm-Ultra; 15ml to a 4oz bottle. Like clen taking orally, I will have to cycle topical clen in a 2wk on/2wk off pattern also due to receptor down regulation. I have given a link to those more interested in the subject up above. Check it out! Good stuff.

I'll keep you posted,
Sprt

Note: Thread/Log origin from SSB.

[SprtNvolcoM]

I just added Cap HP to my regimen. I hear this **** burns like a mutha sucka. Wish me luck.

Until next time,
Sprt

[DemonicPrime]

Hopefully your DNP is powerded and not crystallized or you are going to have a hard time going bed..

[SprtNvolcoM]

Originally Posted by DemonicPrime

Hopefully your DNP is powerded and not crystallized or you are going to have a hard time going bed..

Why it that? I do have crystal and I have been sleeping very well actually. why would it make a difference? DNP is DNP; only one is more potent than the other mg for mg.

[whale]

Originally Posted by SprtNvolcoM

Why it that? I do have crystal and I have been sleeping very well actually. why would it make a difference? DNP is DNP; only one is more potent than the other mg for mg.

Your absolutly right neither should affect in different ways.

[SprtNvolcoM]

Originally Posted by whale

Your absolutly right neither should affect in different ways.

Judgment for the plaintiff.
& Whale, you have mail.

[whale]

ah right back at cha

[SprtNvolcoM]

Date: 02/15/06, Wednesday (day 10)

Starting Weight: 192.8lbs (Morning Weigh)
Current Weight: Did not weigh -- no new weigh in to report.
Total Loss 6.0lbs
BF% Unknown (15%-ish @ start)

Supplimints:
- DNP 400mg ED
- Benedryl 25mg ED
- Nolvadex 20mg ED
- Lipo-Ultra + CLEN Dermal: 1x daily (morning) (read about it here: Lipderm-Ultra + Clen Info.)
- Capzasin-HP: 1x daily (night)

Others:
- Multi Vitamin
- Vitamin B12
- Vitamin E
- Vitamin C
- Cranberry
- Milk Thistle
- Garlic
- Fish Oil
- Selenium
- Chromium
- Pyruvate
- Glycerol

Diet:
I cheated twice this week, once last night with pizza and once tonight with chicken alferado. I'm afraid to weigh. I'm going to tighten my diet back up tomorrow and hold it strong.

Training:
I don't know whether its the DNP or my lack of training (maybe someone can answer this), but my workouts are a f*cking struggle to get through. I'm shaky, I'm fuzzy headed, I'm weak, and I have no indurance. I assume its due to the lack of glycogen in the muscle caused by the DNP (is this is correct), but not only am I dropping poundages (weight) on certain movements, I'm also losing volume (sets/reps). The exercises I can still perform at my previous poundages are hell; I fight for every rep. What do yall think is going on here?

Personal Note:
After some research on the subject I was lead to a thread about localized fat reduction. All your dermals where talked about, homebrew dermals were discussed, and then this Cazasin-HP stuff was brought up. I read a little, & I decided to get some (can be found at any local drug store). All I can say is HOLY #$!#@ %$#@ @#$! %$ #@# %$#@! This **** is excruciating. I was warned about this, but didn't ever believe it would feel the way it did tonight.

My first application went fine (last night). The feeling was more annoying than anything. It must have given me a slight chem burn, because when I put it on tonight, after my shower, I almost called 911. 1-10 in terms of pain, a 10+!!! No no, that doesnt even explain it. Let me give you a visual ...

I was hit by a car a couple years back, and drug several yards. I my knuckles on my left hand where skinned to the bone; holding nothing except embedded gravel in the skin remaining in the area. It literally looked like I was skinned alive from my lower finger knuckles to my elbow. All throughout was embedded gravel. Following me?? After I left the hospital, I was given plastic bristle brushes and iodine wash. Every day, 2x a day, I would have to scrub my naked skinned arm with these bristles and iodine until the gravel was gone (it took about 20 or so days). OK? Now, that being said, if you can imagine the pain those plastic bristles caused to my exposed nerve endings we're getting somewhere ... because Cap-HP was 10x worse!!!!!!! NO JOKE!!! Its an OTC arthritis pain reliever product, WTF??? I almost called 911. Luckily I found a bunch of liquid codeine, which I think helped.
Those of you who do this **** and can stand it or say it doesn't hurt are a bigger man than I am; you all have one hell of a tolerance for pain.

For those who know, how many applications until the pain subsides? Nuff bout that for now.

Since I cheated twice this week, the last two nights in a row, I didn't weigh this morning. I have no new weight observations to report. I have increased my dose to 400mg (this is day 2 @ 400mg). So far so good. Nothing has changed. I'm still sleeping very well & don't seem to having a problem with sweats. Although, for the first time this morning I did feel a little more "on the verge" of perspiration during the first couple hours of work.

That's it for now, I'll keep you posted,
Sprt

Note: Thread/Log origin from SSB.

[Schwaugher]

Capzasin's main ingredient is Capsaicin, and capsaicin is what contributes the organoleptic attributes of hot peppers. In other words, its what makes hot peppers feel hot to your sense organs. And your workouts are most likely crappy because of the DNP. Good luck with the rest of the cycle and keep us posted.

[ryano]

Originally Posted by Schwaugher

Capzasin's main ingredient is Capsaicin, and capsaicin is what contributes the organoleptic attributes of hot peppers. In other words, its what makes hot peppers feel hot to your sense organs. And your workouts are most likely crappy because of the DNP. Good luck with the rest of the cycle and keep us posted.

I dont have any experience with DNP but clen seems to have had the same effects on my WO's...

I say drop the clen anyway...It sounds like the Dnp is working fine.

[anapolack]

im running now with igf and i feel like **** but its working

[anapolack]

and wait to add clen to dnp....its like adding a firecracker to dynamite

[anapolack]

Originally Posted by SprtNvolcoM

Date: 02/14/06, Saturday (day 9)

Starting Weight: 192.8lbs (Morning Weigh)
Current Weight: Did not weigh -- no new weigh in to report.
Total Loss 6.0lbs
BF% Unknown (15%-ish @ start)

Supplimints:
- DNP 400mg ED
- Benedryl 25mg ED
- Nolvadex 20mg ED
- Lipo-Ultra + CLEN Dermal: 1x daily (morning) (read about it here: Lipderm-Ultra + Clen Info.)
- Capzasin-HP: 1x daily (night)

Others:
- Multi Vitamin
- Vitamin B12
- Vitamin E
- Vitamin C
- Cranberry
- Milk Thistle
- Garlic
- Fish Oil
- Selenium
- Chromium
- Pyruvate
- Glycerol

Diet:
I cheated twice this week, once last night with pizza and once tonight with chicken alferado. I'm afraid to weigh. I'm going to tighten my diet back up tomorrow and hold it strong.

Training:
I don't know whether its the DNP or my lack of training (maybe someone can answer this), but my workouts are a f*cking struggle to get through. I'm shaky, I'm fuzzy headed, I'm weak, and I have no indurance. I assume its due to the lack of glycogen in the muscle caused by the DNP (is this is correct), but not only am I dropping poundages (weight) on certain movements, I'm also losing volume (sets/reps). The exercises I can still perform at my previous poundages are hell; I fight for every rep. What do yall think is going on here?

Personal Note:
After some research on the subject I was lead to a thread about localized fat reduction. All your dermals where talked about, homebrew dermals were discussed, and then this Cazasin-HP stuff was brought up. I read a little, & I decided to get some (can be found at any local drug store). All I can say is HOLY #$!#@ %$#@ @#$! %$ #@# %$#@! This **** is excruciating. I was warned about this, but didn't ever believe it would feel the way it did tonight.

My first application went fine (last night). The feeling was more annoying than anything. It must have given me a slight chem burn, because when I put it on tonight, after my shower, I almost called 911. 1-10 in terms of pain, a 10+!!! No no, that doesnt even explain it. Let me give you a visual ...

I was hit by a car a couple years back, and drug several yards. I my knuckles on my left hand where skinned to the bone; holding nothing except embedded gravel in the skin remaining in the area. It literally looked like I was skinned alive from my lower finger knuckles to my elbow. All throughout was embedded gravel. Following me?? After I left the hospital, I was given plastic bristle brushes and iodine wash. Every day, 2x a day, I would have to scrub my naked skinned arm with these bristles and iodine until the gravel was gone (it took about 20 or so days). OK? Now, that being said, if you can imagine the pain those plastic bristles caused to my exposed nerve endings we're getting somewhere ... because Cap-HP was 10x worse!!!!!!! NO JOKE!!! Its an OTC arthritis pain reliever product, WTF??? I almost called 911. Luckily I found a bunch of liquid codeine, which I think helped.
Those of you who do this **** and can stand it or say it doesn't hurt are a bigger man than I am; you all have one hell of a tolerance for pain.

For those who know, how many applications until the pain subsides? Nuff bout that for now.

Since I cheated twice this week, the last two nights in a row, I didn't weigh this morning. I have no new weight observations to report. I have increased my dose to 400mg (this is day 2 @ 400mg). So far so good. Nothing has changed. I'm still sleeping very well & don't seem to having a problem with sweats. Although, for the first time this morning I did feel a little more "on the verge" of perspiration during the first couple hours of work.

That's it for now, I'll keep you posted,
Sprt

Note: Thread/Log origin from SSB.

after application works thru....20 minutes or so rub cold cream on you....it helps bro

[SprtNvolcoM]

Date: 02/16/06, Thursday (day 11)

Starting Weight: 192.8lbs (Morning Weigh)
Current Weight: 185.0lbs (Morning Weigh)
Total Loss 7.8lbs
BF% Unknown (15%-ish @ start)

Supplimints:
- DNP 400mg ED
- Benedryl 25mg ED
- Nolvadex 20mg ED
- Lipo-Ultra + CLEN Dermal: 1x daily (morning) (read about it here: