clen or T3?
- 12-05-2005, 12:28 PM
clen or T3?
ive decided that im going to give one of these a try.
ive searched for both and read numerous posts regarding both.
i may even do both....
just curious as to what might be the better option of the two.
i have somewhat high blood pressure but since i quit smoking 7 months ago it seems to have come down a bit.
i loved taking ephedra based products.
and my mother and sister both have thyroid conditions .
my mother is underactive and my sister is overactive.
ive tried getting a proper TSH test but being military its hard to convince the doctor. they just assume that im 6'4 265 lbs because i eat wrong.....
but then i ask why am i calipering out at around 12-15% bf????
so anyway . im hoping DR. D can shed some light on this.
and maybe glenihan can post the link to his "adventure" cause i cant find it on search
- 12-08-2005, 11:24 PM
If you go with T3, you'll need to run an anabolic alongside it to safeguard against LBM loss.
- 12-09-2005, 12:35 AM
stack 'em, but only when "on"... Otherwise I'd go clen, or better yet, albuterol
12-09-2005, 12:54 AM
is the muscle wasting really that bad?Originally Posted by milwood
12-09-2005, 01:19 AM
yeah. no way woulld run both or T3 alone without something anabolic
12-09-2005, 02:37 AM
even if your hypothetically, oh lets say 250 @ 25.4% bf (from calipers) ?
damn wish I still had some 4oht
12-09-2005, 04:44 PM
hmmmm im 268 6'4'' and around 12-15 calipered.....
i ended up buying some t3 and some albuterol
im not going to run them together though......
i may do a prostanozol and t3 cycle thought as i have 3 extra bottles
12-09-2005, 04:57 PM
well good luck with the lethargy, as Prostan has no real anabolic effect, plus its sides can be dry red eyes, joint pain, and to couple this with T3 with its main effect possibly being lethargy if taken to much, just be careful, as i would not take these together, how bout some phera, and t3, if you absolutly must use t3, i prefer Dicana with an androgen, works quite well... 6mgs and a 10-20 of phera might work ...
12-09-2005, 05:49 PM
anyone know if a bottle of the 4ad, 1-t transdermal that legal gear put out would still be good after 2 years? lol
12-09-2005, 09:00 PM
I took t3 solo, and dropped bf but didnt lose much muscle.... no one else I talked to on a board said this. But I have a hard time losing fat as it is... if that makes a difference.
12-09-2005, 09:08 PM
I think I might just give the t3 w/ albuterol a try and if i'm losing more muscle than I would like I'll give the 2 year old transdermal a try, or throw in something else if that doesnt work
12-12-2005, 07:59 AM
Originally Posted by Apowerz6
ive ran a few cycles of prostan and it worked ok for me.
i guess i could do it with the SD i have.... or maybe even the H-50 i have..... my cabinet looks like a supp wharehouse
12-13-2005, 12:33 AM
clen post drug
is it true that benadryl after a clen cycle helps to reset your receptors affected by its use
12-13-2005, 12:57 AM
Yes. Has a similar effect as if you were using Ketotifen.
12-13-2005, 03:54 PM
Thats weird do you know of any links about that. I don't really know how something that's for allergies can reset your beta receptors?Originally Posted by Atlas
12-13-2005, 05:52 PM
Yeah I'd like some more info on that as well...
12-13-2005, 06:33 PM
I'm 3 weeks into my first t3/albuterol cycle right now. I've used clen in the past. I've lost visible fat and I am still gaining stregth and even look bigger. I'm not trying to lose fat rapidly, just w/out having to spend extra time in the gyme doing cardio. I think as long as ur not trying to lose 10lbs of fat in 2 weeks, it's okay. I'm supplimenting with swolev2 to combate low endurance... which i feel is helping me keep my stregth and size.
I know you are looking at my posts...i'm new...not a newbie....
12-13-2005, 08:30 PM
You use ketotifen or benadryl to effectively "clean" receptors which otherwise would become desensitized. I am not using proper scientific terminology, but trying to paint the picture. If you use 1-2mg of ketotifen OR 50-100mg of benadryl each night during weeks 3 and 6, you can run clen, say, for 6 or more weeks straight. Some don't like this idea, others say that to really benefit from clen you gotta run it more than 2 weeks straight, which has always been conventional wisdom, i.e. 2 on/2 off (with E/C), etc. Incidentally, it is now said that ephedrine downregulates receptors rather than giving them a break, so the 2-off with E/C isn't such a good idea anymore. Some may argue with this, but it is discussed widely around some other boards and seems to have some science behind it.
12-13-2005, 10:42 PM
Yup for me after 2 weeks of clen ephedrine does nothing. Maybe Ill try that benadryl out sometime, I've got some lying around anyways.
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