Gut bacteria = dictates if you're fat or thin

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  1. What are people's thoughts on kombucha here?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    What are people's thoughts on kombucha here?
    Delicious and satisfying.
    Itís easy, just pick it up.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by SkRaw85 View Post
    Delicious and satisfying.
    Agreed. But Iím just not sure which probiotics are good/bad/useless now

  4. What's so you think is the best probiotic for weight loss?

  5. Up a few posts. The one I ordered looks solid.
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  6. Probiotics is the next money maker out there for companies/marketing. Add this to the recent hype train called Test Boosters, Apple Cider Vinegar, Himaylan Sea Salt, etc. (cough S A R M). Somewhere on that list is pre workouts as well ;-).

    Eat a granny apple a day (highest raw form of polyphenols), do daily exercise and eat healthy (more vegies/fruits) and you don't need to worry about spending $$ on products. Nowadays the western diet has become so much processed, no wonder things like gut bacteria, etc become a hot topic and people will jump at any available "magic" product since money is not an issue for most. Not saying the gut bacteria doesnt play a role but it's a topic now simply cos of how deteriorating the western diet is becoming.

    If I had market shares in either of the things I said above, I'd be a rich b#$%h by now..lol!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    So I was watching ' the truth about... fat loss' on BBC and they found an interesting concept.

    yes, dna plays a role, yes surgery can cut appetite, time of eating also back on the limelight, but one that got me was the identical twins - one is fat one is skinny. The difference being the bacteria in their gut.

    This was a 5000 couple study, each time the thinnest had the most diverse bacteria (diet being high fibre ,different types) the other was fat with low fibre diet.

    They didn't really elaborate on this ie. how strongly different the diets were or exampes of meal and Im wondering if supplentation can help, and what these microbes actually are so they can be targeted. Maybe someone on here is a gut bacteria specialist?
    There is a very high correlation between gut microbiota and weight. However, the gut microbiota is highly influenced by diet.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    Up a few posts. The one I ordered looks solid.
    Just ordered that one too...ty

  9. Quote Originally Posted by rtmilburn View Post
    There is a very high correlation between gut microbiota and weight. However, the gut microbiota is highly influenced by diet.
    Also want to add the the gut microbiota may not cause the weightloss by itself. Bacteria in the gut causes changes in the brain by communication through the vegal nerve. This pathway works both ways as well. High stress or saddness, etc literally changes the bacteria in the gut. Also the microbiota can turn on or off genetic switches. All of this can lead to a worse or better body. It does seem to be passive changes and not direct changes, that which a bacterium causes a change.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Biomeddood View Post
    Probiotics is the next money maker out there for companies/marketing. Add this to the recent hype train called Test Boosters, Apple Cider Vinegar, Himaylan Sea Salt, etc. (cough S A R M). Somewhere on that list is pre workouts as well ;-).

    Eat a granny apple a day (highest raw form of polyphenols), do daily exercise and eat healthy (more vegies/fruits) and you don't need to worry about spending $$ on products. Nowadays the western diet has become so much processed, no wonder things like gut bacteria, etc become a hot topic and people will jump at any available "magic" product since money is not an issue for most. Not saying the gut bacteria doesnt play a role but it's a topic now simply cos of how deteriorating the western diet is becoming.

    If I had market shares in either of the things I said above, I'd be a rich b#$%h by now..lol!
    Yes and no. There is real science here and TRILLIONS of dollars at stake on this for pharmaceutical companies.

  11. Just to add here, I wouldn't just supplement with digestive enzymes and/or probiotics for weight loss goals. Seeing as how we all train for some reason, the become stronger, improve body comp, or whatever our goals are, that is enough reason to use these types of supplements. Think of it this way, we want to fully digest and utilize the food we put in our bodies to help us grow and to help us perform in the gym. Additionally, if we are bulking, we are taking in a lot of calories at times and this can take a toll on our GI system.

    I have used Gut Health daily for several years now, I also introduced a digestive enzyme with each meal because my calories are pretty high. I do not feel bloated and I feel better overall. With Gut Health specifically, I have not caught a cold for a few years, except for this past February when I got Influenza B. I attribute that to Gut Health because I work with kids and my immune system is weakened due to medication I take.

    Using these supplements may help with weight loss, but I think we should look at them for the overall health benefits they can provide.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by bigsmall View Post
    I agree. I have fought obesity since being a kid and was upto 400lbs at age 26. I am now 50 at 240 (20% bodyfat). Probiotic's have changed my life. Since about 2 months after implementing them, I no longer have to starve myself to stay or get lean. I can eat like you guys 3k calories a day or more and stay lean and have energy to lift and do life. They made me really sick (candida die off) for the first month, but I persevered.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    What are people's thoughts on kombucha here?
    Yep that was on another ' The truth about.." and they tested probios, fibre, and komucha and the latter was (to what degree is uncertain) better than the other two solo.

    However, for eas Ive started mixing soluble fibre into my morning coffee (10g) and take a mixed probio. Im still settling on which probio but i am finding im sleeping better which is a strong sign and i get wind a lot but nice solid farts with no smell (its just co2)..... (sorry)

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    Yep that was on another ' The truth about.." and they tested probios, fibre, and komucha and the latter was (to what degree is uncertain) better than the other two solo.

    However, for eas Ive started mixing soluble fibre into my morning coffee (10g) and take a mixed probio. Im still settling on which probio but i am finding im sleeping better which is a strong sign and i get wind a lot but nice solid farts with no smell (its just co2)..... (sorry)
    It the insoluble fiber you want, not soluble fiber.

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    I just picked up a freeze dried fermented organic gut superfoods supplement. Has 22 fully fermented greens / superfoods + prebiotic fibre. Adding this on top of my daily kombucha for gut health.

  16. Fermented good are another great way to attack all strains (or help them!)

    kefir for example, a fermented milk drink got op marks for gut bacteria diverstiy.

    Having 'fibre ' on the brain all the time like protein really makes a difference, its a long term slog

    Im losing weight already with no changes, in fact i binged on booze the last week so im normally a bloaty ball by now.. instead im flatter stomach than normal and trousers are getting baggy.

    My guts been sh*t for years i imagine. Lots of alcohol abuse.

  17. for example
    Morning, 1.5 teaspoons in my coffee of Inulin.
    Breakfast its a fibre cereal, hits another 9g of fibre
    Bannana in the day
    Probiotic before bed (full spectrum)
    Kefir (unsure how much to have but its only fresh for 12 hours so i drink a small tub every few days

    You know when youve overdone it because... well. .you'll know!

    Expect lots of wind, but not horrible bad wind, more CO2

  18. I see kefir can actually aid in digesting lactose. Anyone have trouble with lactose experiment with kefir? I'm curious to see how I would react.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by MySTeek View Post
    I see kefir can actually aid in digesting lactose. Anyone have trouble with lactose experiment with kefir? I'm curious to see how I would react.
    I make my own Kefir and my fiancee who has big issues with lactose can drink it no problem. But we have not added lactose back into her diet to see if she handles it better.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by TheMrMuscle View Post
    I make my own Kefir and my fiancee who has big issues with lactose can drink it no problem. But we have not added lactose back into her diet to see if she handles it better.
    I bought some last night. I had about 4 oz. I wasn't expected it to be that bitter but wasn't bad. I had zero bloating or farts. Pretty stoked.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by MySTeek View Post
    I bought some last night. I had about 4 oz. I wasn't expected it to be that bitter but wasn't bad. I had zero bloating or farts. Pretty stoked.
    Nice man, yeah it has a quite special taste. I usually have it with oats/musli or my favourite is to fill a bowl with pineapple and kiwi then pour kefir over it and cinnamon on top. Nutrients galore.

    Also check the label on your Kefir. Here in Sweden all milk products are pasteurized so they add inn the probiotics afterwards, and usually only one strain. Thats why i started making my own.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by TheMrMuscle View Post
    Nice man, yeah it has a quite special taste. I usually have it with oats/musli or my favourite is to fill a bowl with pineapple and kiwi then pour kefir over it and cinnamon on top. Nutrients galore.

    Also check the label on your Kefir. Here in Sweden all milk products are pasteurized so they add inn the probiotics afterwards, and usually only one strain. Thats why i started making my own.
    This is what I got http://lifewaykefir.com/products/plain-lowfat-kefir/ . It has 12 live cultures. Seems to be cleaning me out already.
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  23. I have been a regular user of GutHealth for years. Can’t say that I noticed any weight loss advantages, but I did seem to get sick less often. My mind got swayed a bit though after reading this fairly recent AM article and I have not been so concerned about replenishing my supply.

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    I tend to find myself questioning if the microbes in any of these pills are actually alive...in many brands.

    On the other hand, I find it interesting that Lactobacillus Reuteri and Lactobacillus Rhamnosus are 2 strains that are supposed to be beneficial for supporting test levels.

    I am not really for or against probiotics at this point. The article above just kind of busted my bubble and made me second guess it all..

  24. With Kefir, you introduce and multiply gut bactieria - for many, your guy bacteria is defined from childhood, this reintrudces strands and boosts many factors.

    also supermarkets now do them int he polish section
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