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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Whisky View Post
    Currently Iím 6í2 and 207 lbs. picture below from about 8 days ago (posted it on my cycle log at the end of my first ph run). My guess is 13-15% bf

    I used to be really overweight (loose skin overweight) so asthetically it screws things a bit but as friends on here have highlighted, if I can keeping working hard and get to around 225 then that muscle should fill most of the skin. Itís been 4 years since I lost that weight and Iím discovering just how much harder gaining lean mass is compared to losing weight 😂 that said I love the journey so if it takes many more years thatís what it takes.....

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attac...0e3e-dcbf-482d
    Awesome... Brilliant job losing all that weight.. Yeh i can notice the loose skin but tbh.. Atleast you have your health now and a far better physique 👍 The skin should should tighten with time ' lifting & gaining mass.. Its also a good incentive to keep at it as the end result will look great 👍

    Your carrying a healthy amount of muscle.. Arms are looking on point.

    How much weight did you lose all in?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    Awesome... Brilliant job losing all that weight.. Yeh i can notice the loose skin but tbh.. Atleast you have your health now and a far better physique �� The skin should should tighten with time ' lifting & gaining mass.. Its also a good incentive to keep at it as the end result will look great ��

    Your carrying a healthy amount of muscle.. Arms are looking on point.

    How much weight did you lose all in?
    Thanks bro. I dropped 140lbs initially - took me down to 182lbs (a dexa put me at 10.4% bf at that point but I looked and was weak). Since then I’ve added (very slowly) 25lbs of relatively lean mass. Made loads of mistakes (including listening to other people rather than trusting my own knowledge) and learnt loads - still learning and I’m sure I’ve got mistakes still to make, just hopefully less of them now lol.
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  3. Looking good @Whisky
    @bell1986, no you do not look unhealthy but to people used to seeing you larger in clothes you probably do. Plus if most of the loss was recent your face probably looks a little emaciated. Again next time you hear that say Nope, pull your shirt up and show those abs and pecs and say I think I am good.

    My first competition I went from walking around at 215 and 20+ % down into the upper 170's for my show and people thought I looked ill in my clothes. When they would ask I would tell them no, I am just getting ripped, see. Then bam show em the guns or the abs... Normally it would be an "OH I had no idea you looked like that under there!!!!"
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Whisky View Post
    Thanks bro. I dropped 140lbs initially - took me down to 182lbs (a dexa put me at 10.4% bf at that point but I looked and was weak). Since then Iíve added (very slowly) 25lbs of relatively lean mass. Made loads of mistakes (including listening to other people rather than trusting my own knowledge) and learnt loads - still learning and Iím sure Iíve got mistakes still to make, just hopefully less of them now lol.
    Wow! That is an brilliant achievement. You must feel so much better? Your health must have improved ten fold?

    We all make mistakes but from those mistakes you learn how to never do them again 👍.. I use to do the exact same.. But am glad i did. Makes you a better person.

    How long did that weight loss take you?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    Wow! That is an brilliant achievement. You must feel so much better? Your health must have improved ten fold?

    We all make mistakes but from those mistakes you learn how to never do them again ��.. I use to do the exact same.. But am glad i did. Makes you a better person.

    How long did that weight loss take you?
    Ironically that was one of my mistakes, it took just under a year. 100% would have done it slower if I knew then what I know now.....

    Initially it was all about my health (have two young beautiful guys and didn’t want them to be caring for me in my 50’s when they should be enjoying their life’s).

    Then I found I loved the fitness lifestyle as does my wife. Now it’s also aesthetics that keep me going (having never experienced being in shape I really enjoy looking ‘fit’)
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Whisky View Post
    Ironically that was one of my mistakes, it took just under a year. 100% would have done it slower if I knew then what I know now.....

    Initially it was all about my health (have two young beautiful guys and didn’t want them to be caring for me in my 50’s when they should be enjoying their life’s).

    Then I found I loved the fitness lifestyle as does my wife. Now it’s also aesthetics that keep me going (having never experienced being in shape I really enjoy looking ‘fit’)
    Must be very proud of yourself.

    People always want to lose weight but the % that actually stick to a diet is very little these days. Im still young and vein so i want to look good! lollll

    I recently had a friend ask me to help them structure a way to lose weight/fat. Ive always been concerned for him as hes taking a ton of med's to keep his blood pressure in check. He was very stubborn that its not the weight that's causing the blood pressure increase but i one day turned round and says... Your weight is causing the increase bro a hate to sound rotten. Lose weight and your blood pressure will stabilise. He did take it on board though. (5ft8 and 18.5 stone) Anyway... I wrote him up a diet (Calorie consumption more than just sticking all healthy foods) started him in a 3-500 deficit at the start and for cardio i would just go an hour's walk 2-3 times a week with him (Nothing over the top but just some mild cardio) i says give me a weekly weigh in and 3 month later he was over 2+ stone down. Fast forward to recent he had a break in his diet and just binge'd but deny'd it but i seen him gain weight and also not giving me his weigh in's... He never ever returned and regained everything + more and his blood pressure has rocketed again. A was like so 3 month of diet'n and your back taking a ton of med's again and back to your start... Why? I says you have 3 kids to look after you need to get your health in check or your gonna get major health problems ie Diabetes ' Heart trouble etc. Amaze's me how people wait till health issue's arrive before actually panicking.

    What im getting at is reading storys like your's shows me your want this so bad and your gonna stick to it. You have reached a point where you can just look better and better with your hard work. You have pushed about double what my friend got to (When he did lose weight) so fair play to you. Be good to see your progress as you go along

  7. Update.

    That cheat day last Saturday seems to have rocket'd my fat loss/metabolism

    I was stuck around 157.4 pounds for a wee while thier. Had that cheat day and went up to 161.6 pounds (Water weight/glycogen) and 6 days later i am now at 156 pounds and looking so much leaner. This is the leanest i have ever been.

    Its gonna make me never fear a good cheat day (1 a fortnight not weekly) as the results are speaking for themself.

    Does anyone else get a major boost after a good cheat day?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    Update.

    That cheat day last Saturday seems to have rocket'd my fat loss/metabolism

    I was stuck around 157.4 pounds for a wee while thier. Had that cheat day and went up to 161.6 pounds (Water weight/glycogen) and 6 days later i am now at 156 pounds and looking so much leaner. This is the leanest i have ever been.

    Its gonna make me never fear a good cheat day (1 a fortnight not weekly) as the results are speaking for themself.

    Does anyone else get a major boost after a good cheat day?
    Your workout the next day was probably very good as well.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    Update.

    That cheat day last Saturday seems to have rocket'd my fat loss/metabolism

    I was stuck around 157.4 pounds for a wee while thier. Had that cheat day and went up to 161.6 pounds (Water weight/glycogen) and 6 days later i am now at 156 pounds and looking so much leaner. This is the leanest i have ever been.

    Its gonna make me never fear a good cheat day (1 a fortnight not weekly) as the results are speaking for themself.

    Does anyone else get a major boost after a good cheat day?
    This is actually a very typical response when you physically need or are ready for the cheat meal. Not so much if it is a purely psychological desire to have more. Depending on the deficits and what not anywhere from one a week to one a month makes sense. Most people don't have any reason to have a cheat or refeed in the first month of weight loss unless already pretty lean. At least no physically, now psychologically that is a completely different animal that is to broad to get into here.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  10. It depends on your glycogen stores. If they are on empty for too long, strength going down, feeling weak, tired in gym, you need a refeed or cheat meal, in this case refeed probably better, to refill glycogen stores.
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  11. Thought I'd continue in this thread..

    Is there any reason why I didn't see any effects of my last cheat day? I ate a sh**ton of calories but I still felt like I was freezing the next day, didn't have any energy, flat like in a calorie deficit without any of the usual "Full as F*CK" rdy to go feeling?!? Have I been in keto for too long :S?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DEHUMANiZER View Post
    Thought I'd continue in this thread..

    Is there any reason why I didn't see any effects of my last cheat day? I ate a sh**ton of calories but I still felt like I was freezing the next day, didn't have any energy, flat like in a calorie deficit without any of the usual "Full as F*CK" rdy to go feeling?!? Have I been in keto for too long :S?
    What are your refeed days for? Sanity? Fat loss? A day to relax? Etc

    Was it a cheat day or a planned refeed ie.. Very high carbs.. 1g per pound of protein and fat at a bare minimum or was it a eat everything in site day?

    If your on Keto your glycogen stores will have fully been filled back up. If your carbs were very high anyway. So you should have seen a change in your physique just from that alone. Your next day gym sesh should have been an improvement also. Not drastic but an extra boost in energy.

    Have you done cheat days before with success?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DEHUMANiZER View Post
    Thought I'd continue in this thread..

    Is there any reason why I didn't see any effects of my last cheat day? I ate a sh**ton of calories but I still felt like I was freezing the next day, didn't have any energy, flat like in a calorie deficit without any of the usual "Full as F*CK" rdy to go feeling?!? Have I been in keto for too long :S?
    Try two days in a row of higher carbs, clean carbs mind you, , and reduce fat some. Those carbs will replenish glycogen and help speed up t3 to t4 conversion. Try this this next 4 days you train then go back to keto again. repeat as neccessary
    Millennium Sport Technologies Representative
    www.millenniumsport.net
    AMNOV50

  14. Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    Try two days in a row of higher carbs, clean carbs mind you, , and reduce fat some. Those carbs will replenish glycogen and help speed up t3 to t4 conversion. Try this this next 4 days you train then go back to keto again. repeat as neccessary
    Sorry! I've been on a long business trip and haven't had time to browse the forum. 2 cheat days in a row did the trick for some reason? Any idea why? Now I feel much better during the rest of the week when I started with this approach.

    Usually I only eat once during a cheat day and consume a lot of calories in one sitting. (since I'm doing IF ) On my regular days I eat very little just 2-3h before my training session and have my "higher" calorie meal straight after my training.

    Thnx for the feedback guys!

  15. what There's a difference between a cheat meal and a tactical refeed.
    nep trang tri noi that

  16. If I didn't hit the weights the next day after a refeed/cheat day would it make the refeed/cheat day a waste and store everything as fat? Since I have a very busy lifestyle it would kind of be better for me to have the refeeds on a Saturday and have a day off the gym on Sunday and then hit the gym again on Monday? What do you think?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DEHUMANiZER View Post
    If I didn't hit the weights the next day after a refeed/cheat day would it make the refeed/cheat day a waste and store everything as fat? Since I have a very busy lifestyle it would kind of be better for me to have the refeeds on a Saturday and have a day off the gym on Sunday and then hit the gym again on Monday? What do you think?
    I dont do refeeds days I used to. To answer your question I think it would be a waste of time
    Millennium Sport Technologies Representative
    www.millenniumsport.net
    AMNOV50

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DEHUMANiZER View Post
    If I didn't hit the weights the next day after a refeed/cheat day would it make the refeed/cheat day a waste and store everything as fat? Since I have a very busy lifestyle it would kind of be better for me to have the refeeds on a Saturday and have a day off the gym on Sunday and then hit the gym again on Monday? What do you think?
    That is perfectly fine. The idea is to let your body rest and replenish. I typically train Saturday morning, have my re-feed Saturday night, and take Sunday off. I always wake up lighter on Monday, and Mondays workout is on point! You will not get fat from 1 meal!
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