1. Guys, I am gonna side with the OP on this. You are all wrong...provided he is drinking very cold water.

Now, if he drank a gallon of water that was COLD, like 3 degrees Celsius. The body would need to heat that to 34 degrees (human body temp).

It takes 1 calorie to raise a gram of water 1 degree C.

A gallon of water weighs about 3785 grams.

3785 grams x 34 degrees = 128,690 calories.

We are really talking kcals though, so almost 129 calories are burned.

Well, kind of. There is heat in our bodies that is already wasted and just sitting there, ready to heat the water or dissipate. So in the real world this isn't exact...but that gallon could likely save him at least 50 calories.

Drinking 10 gallons of cold cold water is like spending an hour on a treadmill at 5 mph. Shred city.

2. Originally Posted by SFreed
You ever poop out an undigested burrito? I'm guessing not.
What about corn? Does that count?
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3. Perfect, I'm going to chase all my fast food with ice water

4. This sounds like some Tom Brady-esque “I don’t get sunburned because I drink a lot of water” nonsense.

5. Drinking water before eating helps you lose weight because it fills you up.
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6. Lately I have been getting terrible headaches. Went back to carrying a gallon water jug around all day... headaches gone. Hydration baby. Except now I get no sleep cause I'm up all night running to bathroom lol.

7. Originally Posted by HIT4ME
Guys, I am gonna side with the OP on this. You are all wrong...provided he is drinking very cold water.

Now, if he drank a gallon of water that was COLD, like 3 degrees Celsius. The body would need to heat that to 34 degrees (human body temp).

It takes 1 calorie to raise a gram of water 1 degree C.

A gallon of water weighs about 3785 grams.

3785 grams x 34 degrees = 128,690 calories.

We are really talking kcals though, so almost 129 calories are burned.

Well, kind of. There is heat in our bodies that is already wasted and just sitting there, ready to heat the water or dissipate. So in the real world this isn't exact...but that gallon could likely save him at least 50 calories.

Drinking 10 gallons of cold cold water is like spending an hour on a treadmill at 5 mph. Shred city.
You got me thinking, rather than drinking cold water surely the same principle could be applied if external temperature was lowered......thus the idea of ice baths in fast food joints has been born....

8. Just alternate icy cold and hot water in the shower and use the shiver energy expenditure to burn calories while eating fast food.

9. Or better yet drink some icyhot

10. Originally Posted by Whisky
You got me thinking, rather than drinking cold water surely the same principle could be applied if external temperature was lowered......thus the idea of ice baths in fast food joints has been born....
Well, actually - ice baths would burn more calories than drinking water. I mean, you could "easily" get in a bath with 20-30 gallons of ice and try to melt it with your own body heat...although, this may kill you because you won't be able to heat the ice fast enough. But if you could find a cold temp that you could survive and heat up a bunch of water through your body heat, you would burn more cals of course...basic physics.

BUT, being in cold environments also causes the creation of brown fat (at least in theory) - so beyond getting the actual calorie burn from heating the water, your body would adjust and create new ways to burn more calories all the time (through brown fat) - thus increasing metabolism even when not in the cold bath.

Not sure I'd advise going to extreme on this though.

11. Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn
This sounds like some Tom Brady-esque “I don’t get sunburned because I drink a lot of water” nonsense.
You can't argue with results though, right? GOAT.

12. Originally Posted by HIT4ME
Well, actually - ice baths would burn more calories than drinking water. I mean, you could "easily" get in a bath with 20-30 gallons of ice and try to melt it with your own body heat...although, this may kill you because you won't be able to heat the ice fast enough. But if you could find a cold temp that you could survive and heat up a bunch of water through your body heat, you would burn more cals of course...basic physics.

BUT, being in cold environments also causes the creation of brown fat (at least in theory) - so beyond getting the actual calorie burn from heating the water, your body would adjust and create new ways to burn more calories all the time (through brown fat) - thus increasing metabolism even when not in the cold bath.

Not sure I'd advise going to extreme on this though.
Get shredded or die trying......lol

13. Originally Posted by HIT4ME
You can't argue with results though, right? GOAT.
Haha. I can argue with the sunburn thing. Maybe he’s just an amazing athlete regardless of the “TB12” stuff, or perhaps even in spite of it. With a sample size of one man, we can’t really say him playing well at 40 is because of his TB12 pajamas, drinking water, or just being an amazing quarterback. If he had gone from mediocre or good to amazing after these things, then maybe we’d have a somewhat better argument.

14. Haha...well...have you ever seen Tom Brady's draft day photos? You do know he was the last pick in the draft. The last guy picked!!!

Not sure how much worse he could have been and still even had a chance to become the greatest.

But, yeah, in all seriousness...TB12 is pretty quacked up

15. Originally Posted by HIT4ME
Haha...well...have you ever seen Tom Brady's draft day photos? You do know he was the last pick in the draft. The last guy picked!!!

Not sure how much worse he could have been and still even had a chance to become the greatest.

But, yeah, in all seriousness...TB12 is pretty quacked up
Haha. He has a hell of a work ethic and a chip on his shoulder. I just think his TB12 has come dangerously close to being “cult-like,” and I’m not the only one to think that. Some people much closer to him than me have said similar things. Have you seen the BS supps his guru/trainer guy sells/sold? Concussion water. A greens supplement that could supposedly cure basically every disease known to man.

16. Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn
Haha. He has a hell of a work ethic and a chip on his shoulder. I just think his TB12 has come dangerously close to being “cult-like,” and I’m not the only one to think that. Some people much closer to him than me have said similar things. Have you seen the BS supps his guru/trainer guy sells/sold? Concussion water. A greens supplement that could supposedly cure basically every disease known to man.
Lol, yeah...I live in MA. I don't follow his nutrition stuff too much as its always crazy. You probably saw that Bellicheck finally prohibited his trainer from coming on the team jet or training any players other than Brady a few weeks back.

Still, it really is amazing when you see guys who go last in any draft turn themselves into contenders. Isaiah Thomas is another guy that we loved here. Last in the draft and he is still under appreciated. He always said that his goal wasn't to be drafted first, his goal was to be drafted. And he said he saw it as an opportunity and he took it. Jason Terry told him that opportunity never goes away, it just goes to someone else. I love that stuff....

17. Originally Posted by HIT4ME
Lol, yeah...I live in MA. I don't follow his nutrition stuff too much as its always crazy. You probably saw that Bellicheck finally prohibited his trainer from coming on the team jet or training any players other than Brady a few weeks back.

Still, it really is amazing when you see guys who go last in any draft turn themselves into contenders. Isaiah Thomas is another guy that we loved here. Last in the draft and he is still under appreciated. He always said that his goal wasn't to be drafted first, his goal was to be drafted. And he said he saw it as an opportunity and he took it. Jason Terry told him that opportunity never goes away, it just goes to someone else. I love that stuff....
Yeah, I heard about Bellicheck. I keep hearing that Isiah Thomas is a really bad defender, a liability, particularly in a deep playoff run. What’s your opinion on that?

18. Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn
Yeah, I heard about Bellicheck. I keep hearing that Isiah Thomas is a really bad defender, a liability, particularly in a deep playoff run. What’s your opinion on that?
The guy is 5'8'' - he is at a disadvantage and you could call him a liability, but he is at a disadvantage offensively too and it's easier to point to him scoring 25+ points than it is to say he gets 2 steals a game. I mean, he isn't gonna get a lot of blocks and if he goes for steals then he becomes a liability like anyone else constantly taking chances.

In other words, he is swimming up stream and it makes sense that people think that of him. But on the other hand, I don't like to count him out. I love the fight in that guy.

19. Brady 6th round,199th pick ,there are 7 rounds.

20. I thought I would put this out there. Michael Jordan was a 3rd round draft pick and The Chicago Bulls forgot to pick him up at the airport.

21. Originally Posted by Calroid
Brady 6th round,199th pick ,there are 7 rounds.

22. Originally Posted by HIT4ME
The guy is 5'8'' - he is at a disadvantage and you could call him a liability, but he is at a disadvantage offensively too and it's easier to point to him scoring 25+ points than it is to say he gets 2 steals a game. I mean, he isn't gonna get a lot of blocks and if he goes for steals then he becomes a liability like anyone else constantly taking chances.

In other words, he is swimming up stream and it makes sense that people think that of him. But on the other hand, I don't like to count him out. I love the fight in that guy.
That’s not what I really mean. He’s at a “disadvantage” due to his height, but he’s a solid offensive player (lots of points, efficient, etc). I heard that on defense he can’t make up for his height, that he gives up more points than a great/elite guard should.

For example, and I know it’s not a normal stat, but that newfangled analysis stuff, but the RPM (real plus minus), a metric that “measures how well a team does offensively and defensively with any given on court, and compares it with how well the team does at each with that same player off the court,” had Thomas ranked as the 3rd best offensive PG in the NBA, but last (78th) among eligible PGs in defensive RPM.

I hear lots of people saying that his lack of defensive ability can be exploited in the finals and that may make it difficult to win a championship.
23. can you still get fat by drinking alot of water after eating unhealthy food?

the body spares the energy he needs for heating and cooling stuff on other points in the body. it just doesnt work like that. thats the same as with gluconeogenese, not all energy he needs for that are additional burned calories.

24. Originally Posted by justhere4comm
Drinking water before eating helps you lose weight because it fills you up.
Only if drinking it stops you eating ****e. If you drink a gallon of water before every junk meal but still eat a decent size junk meal then it makes no difference.

25. Originally Posted by Wobmarvel
Only if drinking it stops you eating ****e. If you drink a gallon of water before every junk meal but still eat a decent size junk meal then it makes no difference.
Then drink more so you don't eat a large junk food meal, or don't eat junk food.
Everyone long timer here knows the battle is fought in the kitchen with at least 70 percent of your effort. This isn't theoretical physics we are discussing.

• Drink water
• Eat proper
• Work out
• and Rest

Even drinking more water and LESS junk food would permit losing weight but not because as the OP stated, 'flushing out the fat'. If you do not wish to succeed, then you won't. Fix this, then supplement where needed to assist.

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