Apollo_kane
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So I am looking to cut down on my body fat, I have tried a lot of different supplements for different reasons (bulking, cutting, just cause). I have seen a lot of benefits, down falls, and at times nothingness from certain supplements. But this time around I want to try and take a different approach to cutting. I want to try and free up as much test naturally without limiting my estrogen levels so much that it will destroy my body’s functionality, but still find a way to cut down on as much fat as I can. So I have listed above a few things that I am looking into as well as the supplements that I have researched. My current stats are as follows:
6’01”
280lbs
I am what you would consider an endomorph. I am looking to get down to 240lbs. I know this concept of drop weight gain mass at the same time has had the biggest controversy in the bodybuilding world, but I think there is a way to achieve something close to it, maybe not gain a large amount of mass, but keep what I have with a little more as I drop the excess.
My work outs will remain as they have, but I will be adding in 35-40mins of cardio, they will vary on each day from, high incline walking, running, cycling, and stair climber. I will be adding in the following supplements daily as well:
Morning – Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 2 scoops
Thru the day – Scivation Xtend BCAA – 2-3x – 1 scoop
Pre Workout – Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 2 scoops
Primaforce Beta Alanine Powder – 3 scoops
Nutricost L-Arginine – 1 scoop
Post Workout - Imsoalpha – Alpha Vegan Protein – 1 scoop
Primaforce Beta Alanine Powder – 3 scoops
Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 1 scoops
Before Bed - Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 2 scoops
Nutricost L-Arginine – 1 scoop
The supplements I am considering to run during my cut are:
1) Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals – “Osta Plex” – 2x daily; morning/evening
2) Blackstone Labs – “Epi Cat” – 2x daily; morning/afternoon
3.1) Primeval Labs – “Epiandro Max” – 4x a day; spread evenly
OR
3.2) Purus Labs – “Recycle” – 2x daily; morning/evening
4) PEScience – “Erase Pro +” – 2x daily; morning
5) Vital Labs – “Post Cycle 3X” - 4x daily; 2 morning/2 afternoon
I have also been considering using :
PurusLabs – “D-Pol”; 1 scoop before workout (or three pills; which ever bought)
Any help, or news or advice, or anything positive to add or recommend is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance
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Cortisol – hormone secreted when under stress. “Fight or Flight”, engages the adrenal gland, which secretes adrenaline and glucose that boost your blood pressure. Cortisol also inhibits insulin which raises your sugar levels. Raises glucose in the brain which provides alertness, and help your body with its ability to repair tissue.
Cortisol Inhibitors reduce stress and are used to try and target the deposition of fat in the abdomen and elsewhere. These fat deposits can be caused by a great production of cortisol or Cushing’s syndrome (rare disease).
1) Now supplements – “Super Cortisol Support”; cortisol inhibitor
2) PEScience – “Erase Pro +”; ashwagandha used for thyroid support and cortisol inhibitor
a. Targets corticosterone and 11-deoxycortisol
(dry effect)
Cyclic Adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) and Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP) – secondary messenger for signal transduction on different organisms. cAMP effects hormones like glucagon (elevates glucose in the blood, creating a ubiquitous fuel for the body) and adrenaline that have difficulty passing through plasma membrane, and is also involved in the activation of protein kinases (modifies proteins by adding a phosphate).
1) PEScience – “Shift”; non caffeinated, forskolin 95 (known to increase cAMP), aframomum melegueta (similar to ginger; body recomposition, fat mass control)
2) Performax Labs – “OxyMax XT”; cAMP positive effect *similar to “shift”*, but caffeinated
3) PEScience – “Norcodrene”; caffeinated, conatins afromomum, and chromium (helps regulate blood sugar, helps insulin transport glucose into cells, metabolizes carbohydrates and assists in digestion)
Estrogen – high levels in men contribute to prostate cancer, heart disease, and gynecomastia (enlarged breasts). As testosterone is transferred into estrogen the low levels of testosterone can cause many unpleasant symptoms including loss of muscle mass, fatigue, low libido and erectile dysfunction. The use of “Estrogen Blockers” helps to reduce either the production or effects of estrogen on the body. This has been linked to reduce water retention and bloating that is associated with raised estrogen levels.
1) Purus Labs – “Recycle”; tribulus alatus (increases androgen levels), 3,4 divanillyitetrahydrofuran (reduced SHBG that inhibits androgen), 3,3 dindolylmethane (prevents test from transferring to estrogen, prevents the increase of estrogen), indole-3-carbinol (lowers CYP19 also known as aromatase)
2) Blackstone Labs – “Eradicate”; androsta 3,5-dien-7,17-dione (estrogen blocker treats gynecomastia, aromatase inhibitor, preventing any estrogen rebound), N-Acetyl L-Cysteine (cysteine helps to produce gluthathione and taurine, to prevent muscle deterioration and produce energy)
• androsta 3,5-dien-7,17-dione – naturally occurring metabolite of 7-keto DHEA*
3) Primeval Labs – “Epiandro Max”; epiandrosterone (converts to DHT, inhibits estrogen, binds SHGB, and increases free testosterone)
Myostatin – protein produced and released by myocytes that acts on muscle cells autocrine function to inhibit myogenesis (formation of muscular tissue). Animals that lack myostatin or treated with blockers have shown a significant gain in muscle mass.
1) Blackstone Labs – “Epi Cat”; epicatechins (decrease or surpress myostatin)
Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) – more selective that steroids, boasting anabolic to androgenic rations starting at 3:1 and going as high as 90:1. Legal but deemed to be used for “research purposes only”.
1) Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals – “Osta Plex”; 7-methoxy-8-(3-methylbut-2-en-1-yl)-2h-chromen-2-one (osthole – increase androgen and NOS) 19-nor-androst-4-ene-17-one Enathate (decasterone – prohormone like compound that converts to the hormone Nandrolone in the body)
Post Cycle Therapy – helps to control levels of estrogen, re-regulate hormonal levels and protect from any side effects from prohormones.
1) Vital Labs – “Post Cycle 3X”
6’01”
280lbs
I am what you would consider an endomorph. I am looking to get down to 240lbs. I know this concept of drop weight gain mass at the same time has had the biggest controversy in the bodybuilding world, but I think there is a way to achieve something close to it, maybe not gain a large amount of mass, but keep what I have with a little more as I drop the excess.
My work outs will remain as they have, but I will be adding in 35-40mins of cardio, they will vary on each day from, high incline walking, running, cycling, and stair climber. I will be adding in the following supplements daily as well:
Morning – Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 2 scoops
Thru the day – Scivation Xtend BCAA – 2-3x – 1 scoop
Pre Workout – Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 2 scoops
Primaforce Beta Alanine Powder – 3 scoops
Nutricost L-Arginine – 1 scoop
Post Workout - Imsoalpha – Alpha Vegan Protein – 1 scoop
Primaforce Beta Alanine Powder – 3 scoops
Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 1 scoops
Before Bed - Optimum Nutrition Pro BCAA – 2 scoops
Nutricost L-Arginine – 1 scoop
The supplements I am considering to run during my cut are:
1) Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals – “Osta Plex” – 2x daily; morning/evening
2) Blackstone Labs – “Epi Cat” – 2x daily; morning/afternoon
3.1) Primeval Labs – “Epiandro Max” – 4x a day; spread evenly
OR
3.2) Purus Labs – “Recycle” – 2x daily; morning/evening
4) PEScience – “Erase Pro +” – 2x daily; morning
5) Vital Labs – “Post Cycle 3X” - 4x daily; 2 morning/2 afternoon
I have also been considering using :
PurusLabs – “D-Pol”; 1 scoop before workout (or three pills; which ever bought)
Any help, or news or advice, or anything positive to add or recommend is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cortisol – hormone secreted when under stress. “Fight or Flight”, engages the adrenal gland, which secretes adrenaline and glucose that boost your blood pressure. Cortisol also inhibits insulin which raises your sugar levels. Raises glucose in the brain which provides alertness, and help your body with its ability to repair tissue.
Cortisol Inhibitors reduce stress and are used to try and target the deposition of fat in the abdomen and elsewhere. These fat deposits can be caused by a great production of cortisol or Cushing’s syndrome (rare disease).
1) Now supplements – “Super Cortisol Support”; cortisol inhibitor
2) PEScience – “Erase Pro +”; ashwagandha used for thyroid support and cortisol inhibitor
a. Targets corticosterone and 11-deoxycortisol
(dry effect)
Cyclic Adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) and Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP) – secondary messenger for signal transduction on different organisms. cAMP effects hormones like glucagon (elevates glucose in the blood, creating a ubiquitous fuel for the body) and adrenaline that have difficulty passing through plasma membrane, and is also involved in the activation of protein kinases (modifies proteins by adding a phosphate).
1) PEScience – “Shift”; non caffeinated, forskolin 95 (known to increase cAMP), aframomum melegueta (similar to ginger; body recomposition, fat mass control)
2) Performax Labs – “OxyMax XT”; cAMP positive effect *similar to “shift”*, but caffeinated
3) PEScience – “Norcodrene”; caffeinated, conatins afromomum, and chromium (helps regulate blood sugar, helps insulin transport glucose into cells, metabolizes carbohydrates and assists in digestion)
Estrogen – high levels in men contribute to prostate cancer, heart disease, and gynecomastia (enlarged breasts). As testosterone is transferred into estrogen the low levels of testosterone can cause many unpleasant symptoms including loss of muscle mass, fatigue, low libido and erectile dysfunction. The use of “Estrogen Blockers” helps to reduce either the production or effects of estrogen on the body. This has been linked to reduce water retention and bloating that is associated with raised estrogen levels.
1) Purus Labs – “Recycle”; tribulus alatus (increases androgen levels), 3,4 divanillyitetrahydrofuran (reduced SHBG that inhibits androgen), 3,3 dindolylmethane (prevents test from transferring to estrogen, prevents the increase of estrogen), indole-3-carbinol (lowers CYP19 also known as aromatase)
2) Blackstone Labs – “Eradicate”; androsta 3,5-dien-7,17-dione (estrogen blocker treats gynecomastia, aromatase inhibitor, preventing any estrogen rebound), N-Acetyl L-Cysteine (cysteine helps to produce gluthathione and taurine, to prevent muscle deterioration and produce energy)
• androsta 3,5-dien-7,17-dione – naturally occurring metabolite of 7-keto DHEA*
3) Primeval Labs – “Epiandro Max”; epiandrosterone (converts to DHT, inhibits estrogen, binds SHGB, and increases free testosterone)
Myostatin – protein produced and released by myocytes that acts on muscle cells autocrine function to inhibit myogenesis (formation of muscular tissue). Animals that lack myostatin or treated with blockers have shown a significant gain in muscle mass.
1) Blackstone Labs – “Epi Cat”; epicatechins (decrease or surpress myostatin)
Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) – more selective that steroids, boasting anabolic to androgenic rations starting at 3:1 and going as high as 90:1. Legal but deemed to be used for “research purposes only”.
1) Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals – “Osta Plex”; 7-methoxy-8-(3-methylbut-2-en-1-yl)-2h-chromen-2-one (osthole – increase androgen and NOS) 19-nor-androst-4-ene-17-one Enathate (decasterone – prohormone like compound that converts to the hormone Nandrolone in the body)
Post Cycle Therapy – helps to control levels of estrogen, re-regulate hormonal levels and protect from any side effects from prohormones.
1) Vital Labs – “Post Cycle 3X”