What's a really good fat burner?

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  1. What's a really good fat burner?


    Alphamine and high volume a good stack or there is better?


  2. Some compounds have been proven to lend themselves to shedding fat and recomposition when coupled with a good program and proper nutritional regime.

    Select the links to learn more:
    - 7 Keto DHEA which is a non-hormonal derivative of DHEA, 7-ketodehydroepiandrosterone, 7-oxodehydroepiandrosterone, 7-ketoDHEA, 7-oxoDHEA, 7-oxo, 7-keto
    - Coleus Forskholii which goes by a few names, Forskolin, Coleonol, 7beta-acetoxy-1alpha, 6beta, 9alpha-trihydroxy-8, 13-epoxy-labd-14-en-11-one.

    We at Vein Nutrition have compiled a few extra ingredients to aid in the fat loss process and cycle that relate to fat burning compounds and others which have a secondary but no lessor effect on the individual. In order to gain the most from a routine where you are in a caloric deficit you must also rest; recuperate; and restore both physically and mentally. This is why we have also used the following ingredients to complete the package in VEINQUISH a non-stimmed fat burner.

    - Ashwagandha
    - Fucoxanthin
    - Caralluma Fimbriata
    - 5 HTP
    - Piperine


    More information about those compounds:
    Caralluma Fimbriata
    Caralluma Fimbriata is a certain species of the Caralluma genus that appears to have historical usage as a famine food, appetite suppressant, and thirst quencher when the vegetables are boiled and salted. Research is preliminary, but seems to validate these claims.

    Ashwagandha KSM-66
    • Lowers Anxiety
    • Lowers C-Reactive Protein
    • Lowers Cortisol
    • Increases Power Output
    • Reduces Stress
    • Lowers Total Cholesterol
    • Increased Aerobic Capacity
    • Lowers Blood Glucose
    • Lowers Blood Pressure
    • Decreases Depression
    • Increases HDL C
    • Increases LH
    • Increases Serum DHEA
    • Increased Feeling of Well Being
    • Increased Testosterone
    • Increased VO2 Max
    • Increased Immunity
    • Anti-Cancer


    7-Keto DHEA
    7-Keto DHEA is a metabolite of DHEA that is non hormonal, and it appears to be a fat loss agent as it may increase the metabolic rate. Studies in humans show promise for helping during a fat loss diet, but currently are of questionable quality due to potential conflicts of interest.

    Coleus Forskolin
    Coleus forskohlii is an herb used in traditional medicine that may boost testosterone and induce fat loss, particularly in men.

    • Decrease Fatigue
    • Increase Lean Mass
    • Increase Testosterone
    • Decrease Weight
    • Improve HDL-C


    (Goes well with Yohimbine / Rauwolscine / Ephedrine / Caffeine, so if you want to add your own stimulent you can, but we wanted to give the option to you, and our aim was to create a product that would be great for long term use and not need to be cycled or potentially interfere with your sleep hygiene.)

    Fucoxanthin
    Fucoxanthin is a carotenoid found in brown seaweed that is being investigated for its fat burning abilities. It reduces fat mass, but has a time delay due to build up in fat tissue and does not stimulate the brain. Also appears healthy, but needs more corroborating evidence.

    • Decreases Liver Enzymes
    • Decreased Liver Fat
    • Increased Metabolic Rate
    • Decreased Weight
    • Lower Blood Pressure
    • Lowers C Reactive Protein


    5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan)
    5-HTP is the precursor to serotonin, the neurotransmitter sometimes touted to be responsible for happiness. 5-HTP is a simple way to increase brain serotonin levels by bypassing the rate-limiting step, and users reap either the rewards or the hazards of increased brain serotonin.

    Just because you are losing weight and sacrificing some of your favorite foods, doesnít mean your mood has to suffer as well.

    Bioperine
    Black Pepper is a source of piperine, a molecule that does not do much on its own but can inhibit enzymes that would attack other molecules. Due to this, it is ingested alongside some supplements to increase their absorption rates
    That's all about a non-stim fat burning.
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    Additionally one could use an ECA stack alongside this.
    What research have you done otherwise?

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  3. Oxymax XT is a great option. Not only from a fat burning standpoint, but also from a mood enhancement and appetite suppression one as well.

    Whatever supplement you decide one, I would look for anything with at least 50mg of forskolin, which Oxymax XT has. Forskolin will increase cAMP levels and help with increasing fat loss while also increasing lean mass. Now, diet needs to be on point, but it is a great ingredient. Here are some good reads on the ingredient.

    Forskolin increases metabolism, burns fat, breaks down triglycerides, and increases lean-body mass
    The thyroid stimulating strength of forskolin has been compared to TSH (thyrotropin). Thyroid hormone levels are important for leanness.
    Forskolin has increased total testosterone by 16% in male subjects during a 12-week trial.
    https://www.t-nation.com/supplements...with-forskolin

    Fat Mass:  The colforsin group lost 4.52 kilograms (9,94 pounds) of fat, plus or minus 5.74 kilograms, while the placebo group lost only 0.51 kilograms (1.12 pounds), plus or minus 1.91 kilograms.
    Lean Body Mass:  The colforsin group gained 3.71 kilograms of lean body mass (8.162 pounds), plus or minus 4.07 kilograms, while the placebo group gained 1.57 kilograms (3.45 pounds), plus or minus 2.56 kilograms.
    Testosterone:  The Testosterone of the colforsin group rose 33.7 percent, while it decreased 18.35 percent in the placebo group.
    https://www.t-nation.com/supplements...-the-messenger

    The total body weight of a mixed group of men and women in a 12-week study decreased from 74.7 kilograms to 73.5 kilograms while experiencing increases in lean body mass (without weight training).
    https://www.t-nation.com/supplements...u-need-to-take

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16129715

    https://legionathletics.com/forskolin/

    http://www.infinitelabs.com/forskolin-reviews/
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Kingrogue View Post
    Alphamine and high volume a good stack or there is better?
    The old Alphamine was a great fat burner. Be cautious if you're reading through old threads though, Alphamine has been reformulated within the last few years and is no longer a thermogenic product. High Volume is not a fat burner either, but it's always a fun supplement to add in for a serious pump.

    If you're looking for a solid thermogenic/fat burner, the two suggestions above are my two go-to's. EC is a tried and true combination that always delivers, and Oxymax XT is also a solid option that contains a variety of great ingredients to help control appetite, increase mood and focus, and help with fat oxidation.
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  5. Radiate has been getting some really solid reviews. Great thermogenic and awesome energy.

    OG Alphamine was solid, too bad it's been reformulated.
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  6. I personally like a norcodrene/shift stack. Just watch your stim intake if you take both of these.
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  7. Radiate hands down! I do enjoy using High Volume and Alphamine together before workout because I love PEScience products.

    here is the thread for Radiate reviews:

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  8. You have an overwhelming amount of options and many of them are great and proven. I never like to stick to a particular one for too long, but my favorites up to this point have been Hell Fire by Innovative Laboratories and Radiate, a favorite on this forum. Both get you moving and sweating, which are my favorite effects of thermos.
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  9. At the end of the day, unless you are exercising and have your food intake in check, nothing will truly work at 100%
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  10. Try stacking these 3....

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  11. I would try this new vegan supplement called prodovite that i started to use and its starting to just rip me up. Not only that, my motivation to workout has gone up so im working harder while using this. Its all botanical and it just gives your body what it needed. You can find it on vniinc.com/purelywell

  12. Quote Originally Posted by purelywell View Post
    I would try this new vegan supplement called prodovite that i started to use and its starting to just rip me up. Not only that, my motivation to workout has gone up so im working harder while using this. Its all botanical and it just gives your body what it needed. You can find it on vniinc.com/purelywell
    It's a multi vitamin dude....don't start spamming everyone with that.

  13. Red sky,cannibal claw and titan are all great options that many people here really enjoy.
    https://www.chaosandpain.com/fat-burners/

    Radiate gets a lot of love and it's solid as a appetite suppressant

    EC stack is always a choice that's tried and true. I like red sky with E but I don't recommend doing that - my tolerance is insane
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  14. Found MK677 works great for positive changes in body comp particularly in maintaining muscle mass while cutting.

  15. I like HydroxyElite from HiTech. Very good stuff!

  16. Last time i checked, providing someone with the information about a company that just got asked to lead seminar at harvard in september because of its scientific evidence in its ability to help people isn't a scam. I would appriciate it if you would do your research before shooting off claims that you have no idea about.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by purelywell View Post
    Last time i checked, providing someone with the information about a company that just got asked to lead seminar at harvard in september because of its scientific evidence in its ability to help people isn't a scam. I would appriciate it if you would do your research before shooting off claims that you have no idea about.
    He said "spam," didn't he?
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by purelywell View Post
    Last time i checked, providing someone with the information about a company that just got asked to lead seminar at harvard in september because of its scientific evidence in its ability to help people isn't a scam. I would appriciate it if you would do your research before shooting off claims that you have no idea about.
    Not trying to be a dick but what scientific evidence?
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  19. Best cutting combo, I am using this atm... eating about 2100 calories, in about 3 weeks dropped around 5% bf and maintained weight within 1kg, its crazy.

    mk 677 10mg
    1 letrone a day
    Blood shred WAR or OG Alphamine, I am sure there is some around somewhere lol
    Assasinate before lunch and dinner

    I have had a few days where i felt hypoglycemic, but i would eat some fruit and feel ok again. Really happy with the recomping effect

  20. Tren and T3. 😉
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by purelywell View Post
    I would try this new vegan supplement called prodovite that i started to use and its starting to just rip me up. Not only that, my motivation to workout has gone up so im working harder while using this. Its all botanical and it just gives your body what it needed. You can find it on vniinc.com/purelywell
    R u sure it's not just a psychosomatic thing? Is there actual science behind this vegan supplement or is it just the new hype? No offense just skeptical, I'm trying too lose weightand stuff that used too work for me when I was in my early twenties is just kicking my ass around from pre-workouts too my actual cycle.?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Kingrogue View Post
    Alphamine and high volume a good stack or there is better?
    Albuterol with ketotifen 4-6 weeks

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Lucianooo View Post
    Albuterol with ketotifen 4-6 weeks
    Hell, might as well go full out with Clen and Ketotifen
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by purelywell View Post
    I would try this new vegan supplement called prodovite that i started to use and its starting to just rip me up. Not only that, my motivation to workout has gone up so im working harder while using this. Its all botanical and it just gives your body what it needed. You can find it on vniinc.com/purelywell
    It may have raised some hackles of people when you write things like:
    It's 'starting to rip me up' and my 'motivation' has gone up? You're 'working harder'? What does that mean? How does that apply to losing weight? General statements like that from someone with 3 posts might appear to be spam.

    From your user name do you own the company or rep for them?
    I'm not 100 percent on this, but if you rep or own a company, it also may be frowned upon as spam.

    Maybe offer up some scientific data; studies for each of the active ingredients? In what amounts are they most effective as per study? What would that talk be about (at Harvard?) A little insight into that would be great too. I'm sure we'd all love to hear about it in further detail.

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  25. I swear by the ECA stack, Iíve been stacking it with green tea and CLA. Iím planning to add another non stimulate fat burner this weekend.
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