What's a really good fat burner?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    I highly suggest the diet cardio and exercise first with a single compound added in
    Of course diet and exercise are paramount, and should be dialed in before taking any supplement(s). Itís not a bad idea to try one ingredient at a time, but often ingredients work synergistically with each other, so you can not only get the effects of 1+1=2, but perhaps 1+1=2.5 or 3. To each his own, but I donít think itís always necessary to introduce one ingredient at a time. One supplement, yes, but there is no right or wrong really.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Of course diet and exercise are paramount, and should be dialed in before taking any supplement(s). Itís not a bad idea to try one ingredient at a time, but often ingredients work synergistically with each other, so you can not only get the effects of 1+1=2, but perhaps 1+1=2.5 or 3. To each his own, but I donít think itís always necessary to introduce one ingredient at a time. One supplement, yes, but there is no right or wrong really.
    Supplements are only one ingredient...

    "Proprietary blends" are blends.

    Mostly full of overpriced crap you do not need.

    I'm helping you (op) keep money in your wallet, build a healthy physique, and not put crap with fillers in it in your body.

    But hey, to each their own.

    The smart ones will get my messages.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    Supplements are only one ingredient...

    "Proprietary blends" are blends.

    Mostly full of overpriced crap you do not need.

    I'm helping you (op) keep money in your wallet, build a healthy physique, and not put crap with fillers in it in your body.

    But hey, to each their own.

    The smart ones will get my messages.

    A supplement can have any number of ingredients. Not all multi-ingredient supplements are proprietary blends; prop blends are when the doses of individual ingredients arenít disclosed. The label I posted is NOT a proprietary blend.

    What ďfillersĒ are you talking about? I find it amusing how you say the ďsmartĒ ones will get your messages, when you often say incorrect things that you are unable to substantiate, such as the whole protein supplement ďdebate.Ē
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post

    A supplement can have any number of ingredients. Not all multi-ingredient supplements are proprietary blends; prop blends are when the doses of individual ingredients arenít disclosed. The label I posted is NOT a proprietary blend.

    What ďfillersĒ are you talking about? I find it amusing how you say the ďsmartĒ ones will get your messages, when you often say incorrect things that you are unable to substantiate, such as the whole protein supplement ďdebate.Ē
    Lmao. I've had many guys on this forum, usually older who know the ins and outs, PM me and tell me I'm right.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    Lmao. I've had many guys on this forum, usually older who know the ins and outs, PM me and tell me I'm right.
    You want a gold star? Youíre wrong; people agreeing with you are welcome to be wrong with you as well. You donít know basic definitions, be it what a prop blend is, or what constitutes health or lack thereof. You also donít seem to know what broscience is; you claim that your anecdotal evidence from a few people you know isnít broscience, but pulling from peer-reviewed, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies is; thatís literally backwards. You also talk incessantly about being unhealthy, yet donít seem to have a problem with constantly running testosterone and HGH, both of which have more potential adverse effects than the natural supplements you warn against so much.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    You want a gold star? Youíre wrong; people agreeing with you are welcome to be wrong with you as well. You donít know basic definitions, be it what a prop blend is, or what constitutes health or lack thereof. You also donít seem to know what broscience is; you claim that your anecdotal evidence from a few people you know isnít broscience, but pulling from peer-reviewed, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies is; thatís literally backwards. You also talk incessantly about being unhealthy, yet donít seem to have a problem with constantly running testosterone and HGH, both of which have more potential adverse effects than the natural supplements you warn against so much.
    Have a blessed weekend sir!


  7. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    Have a blessed weekend sir!

    You as well haha.
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  8. How about forskolin?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by jameschoi View Post
    How about forskolin?
    Yes, forskolin can help as well. Itís something that youíll want to take daily though, not really acute effects.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Yes, forskolin can help as well. It’s something that you’ll want to take daily though, not really acute effects.
    What do you recommend?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by jameschoi View Post
    What do you recommend?
    For forskolin? 50mg of 95% extract per day. You can split the dose and/or take it with food to minimize and chance of an upset stomach, but itís often not necessary to do so.
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  12. ALPHAGEN-X for the win! It is a powder stim based fat burner with a full disclosure label including DMHA.

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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    Green tea on an empty stomach.

    Keeps metabolism boosted for 6 hours and has fat burning capabilities way stronger than the tiny amount of caffeine. Will also keep you healthy.
    Is there any bad effects to drink green tea on an empty stomach?
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