KETO & MACRO Advice

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Wimsicle View Post
    Correct, Gluconeogenesis is both supply and demand driven and eating between .8-1.2g per LBM will not kick you out of ketosis. It may lower blood ketones by a little bit, but it won't kick you out.

    Here is some cool stuff on Gluconeogenesis.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9124550
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1557428
    Would eating that amount of protein stop you going into ketosis in the first place?


  2. We are in a depleted state of muscle glycogen while on a ketogenic diet, so any excess glucose is going to refill muscle glycogen before refilling live glycogen, thus resulting in staying in ketosis.

    Here is some more info on this:
    http://www.ketotic.org/2012/08/if-yo...s-it-turn.html
    Current Workout Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/294252-wimsicle-builds-size.html
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mickc1965 View Post
    Would eating that amount of protein stop you going into ketosis in the first place?
    I eat .8g per lbm every day and have never had trouble getting into ketosis. If i knock myself out due to a cheat meal, and hop right back on my macros the next day.. I am usually into ketosis and getting solid blood ketone readings within 23-26 hours.

    However, I would probably consider myself as a 'fat-adapted' individual and that may play a part. I do believe if you eat between .8-1.2g per day, you will still have no trouble getting into ketosis.
    Current Workout Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/294252-wimsicle-builds-size.html

  4. What about intracarbs ?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    What about intracarbs ?
    Carbs are carbs, if you eat over the allotted amount 20-30g net a day, you'll be kicked out.

    I follow a TKD, consuming 15g of high GI carbs pre workout. The goal of this is to promote post-workout glycogen synthesis. It does knock you out of ketosis temporarily for a short time period (sometimes instantly, sometimes a little delayed), but as glucose goes into the muscles and insulin begins to drop back down, ketosis will start again typically a few hours after your workout.
    Current Workout Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/294252-wimsicle-builds-size.html
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  6. Thanks everyone this is very helpful.

    I am going to stick to .8 -1g of protein x LBM
    174g Protein
    116g fat
    20g carbs

    I have thrown in a zero carb protein shake after my workout and right before lunch and will throw in additional protein into dinner to hit the 174 target. Would 10-20 grams of protein be optimal to consume before lifting? This would break my fast early so not sure if it would help or not.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by theodorehelle View Post
    Thanks everyone this is very helpful.

    I am going to stick to .8 -1g of protein x LBM
    174g Protein
    116g fat
    20g carbs

    I have thrown in a zero carb protein shake after my workout and right before lunch and will throw in additional protein into dinner to hit the 174 target. Would 10-20 grams of protein be optimal to consume before lifting? This would break my fast early so not sure if it would help or not.
    Try 20-25g protein and 1 tbls Mct oil 30-45min before workout to Jumpstart MPS
    Current Workout Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/294252-wimsicle-builds-size.html

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Wimsicle View Post
    Try 20-25g protein and 1 tbls Mct oil 30-45min before workout to Jumpstart MPS
    Ok got it. I have Brain Octane that I'll throw into a pre workout protein shake.

    Thanks!
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