[brobody]

I had same problems and went from 340 to 170 then built up.they saif It was near imposibble for me to loose weight and keep it off.people use diagnosis to stay fat or make excuses I get so tired of people with the same problems I have whinning about it or getting lap bands or stomach staples there is no reason for it if god wanted you to have a band around ur stomach u would have one.ok ok I'm done just saying don't be lazy

[love2liftkat]

If you have a thyroid condition does that mean you are stuck obese forever.

I always thought if you ate VERY clean and excercised you could at least trim down to a healthy weight.

Idk I was raised into a healthy diet and wanted a perfect physique, so I always though obesity was typically due to laziness + lack of self control. Should I be a little.more compassionate towards fat people..?

Say you ate brown rice, veggies, and chicken six times a day, but had a thyroid problem would you still be unhealthy fat?

I have Hashimoto's which is a thyroid condition. It is not being treated due to the nature of the disease-which SUCKS might I add! However, I have lost from 200lbs/43%bf to 135lbs/19%bf with just plain training hard and eating clean. Unfortunately, I seem to be stuck at a plateau that I'm trying to figure out how to break...So, to answer your question- it is possible for them to loose weight-it's just MUCH more challenging than the average person. Calorie deficits needed are usually much much lower! It can become quite frustrating especially if you don't have the knowledge on proper nutrition or training. Women, especially tend to go the eating disorder route due to the frustration! ie: not eating for days and then binging

[brobody]

What is your diet, training and cardio like?

[brobody]

There is "if" fasting, there is carb cycling, zig zag calorie, keto diet.it usually all comes down to calories in vs calories out.

[love2liftkat]

What is your diet, training and cardio like?

Diet: approx 1500 calories
Protein at least 1g per lb
Carbs 150g
Fat less than 40g

Training: Lift heavy 4-5 days a week

Cardio: 30 min of HIIT 4-5x's a week and one day LISS cardio 30+ mins

I have a log for more details.

[brobody]

Height, weight shoot me log so I can see your training. How many time a week do you lift what's your split like?

[brobody]

Shoot me a pm and I can help if needed.there is a ton of ways to bust thru the plateau. Carb cycling has worked wonders for me as did if fasting.depends on your schedule needs

[love2liftkat]

Height, weight shoot me log so I can see your training. How many time a week do you lift what's your split like?

5'5" 135, M-back/bis followed by 30 min of sprints, T-chest/tris/abs 30 min sprints, W- sprints or occasional rest day, Th-shoulders/abs 30 min sprints, F- Legs LISS 30+ min, S&S- family days
I just started my log so not all of my training routines aren't posted yet. They will be by the end of the week! http://anabolicminds.com/forum/weight-loss/247222-heres-my-first-post4427074.html

[HIT4ME]

Kat, my advice to you is to cut back on your training a little. I'd cut the HITT down to 2-3X per week, heavy training to about 2-3X per week. That is if you are doing truly hard HIIT where you are going all out. 20 minutes of intervals with all-out intensity will drain you. 3 sessions a week of heavy lifting will drain you. It isn't about draining, it is about creating a deficit.

You are working very hard, and you are getting GREAT results from it. I wouldn't look at this current situation as a plateau. You have lost about 1/3 of your bodyweight!!! Your body is going to want to stop. This is where long term success comes into play I think. This is where I would take a short (2-3 week) break and reefed a little. Don't go crazy, just allow yourself to eat maybe 1800-2000 calories/day and drop back on your training a little. Maybe you gain 5 pounds back over 3 weeks. But you will be positioning yourself for new weight loss and more importantly, correcting some metabolic damage that may have occurred from the 65 pound drop in weight. It will also give your body some time to respond to the weight training and actually build some muscle, which will give you a very slight increase in metabolism - but even slight increases add up over time and improve your chance of long-term success.

Keep up the great work!

[love2liftkat]

Kat, my advice to you is to cut back on your training a little. I'd cut the HITT down to 2-3X per week, heavy training to about 2-3X per week. That is if you are doing truly hard HIIT where you are going all out. 20 minutes of intervals with all-out intensity will drain you. 3 sessions a week of heavy lifting will drain you. It isn't about draining, it is about creating a deficit. You are working very hard, and you are getting GREAT results from it. I wouldn't look at this current situation as a plateau. You have lost about 1/3 of your bodyweight!!! Your body is going to want to stop. This is where long term success comes into play I think. This is where I would take a short (2-3 week) break and reefed a little. Don't go crazy, just allow yourself to eat maybe 1800-2000 calories/day and drop back on your training a little. Maybe you gain 5 pounds back over 3 weeks. But you will be positioning yourself for new weight loss and more importantly, correcting some metabolic damage that may have occurred from the 65 pound drop in weight. It will also give your body some time to respond to the weight training and actually build some muscle, which will give you a very slight increase in metabolism - but even slight increases add up over time and improve your chance of long-term success. Keep up the great work!

Thank you for your sweet comments and great tips! You're probably right! I am totally drained and basically crash on the weekends when I finally rest! I drag through the rest of the week! The only time I've taken to recover was spending 5 days in the hospital and 2 wks recovering after gallbladder surgery! Lol I enjoy it so much but I definitely want more results!

[HIT4ME]

Well, keep in mind that if you are trying to lose weight, muscle is your friend!! You are lifting weights so I think you realize this. The way it works is stimulate, recover, grow - 3 steps. You are stimulating, maybe recovering, and then stimulating again. You have to give yourself time to grow. More is NOT better. There is a specific amount that you need and doing more isn't helpful. Keep up the good work!

[love2liftkat]

Well, keep in mind that if you are trying to lose weight, muscle is your friend!! You are lifting weights so I think you realize this. The way it works is stimulate, recover, grow - 3 steps. You are stimulating, maybe recovering, and then stimulating again. You have to give yourself time to grow. More is NOT better. There is a specific amount that you need and doing more isn't helpful. Keep up the good work!

Yes, I do realize that and I'd like to gain muscle and lose the fat! Thanks for the tips and encouragement! I will try to give more time for growth!! Have an awesome day!

[lewishunter2]

Hey guys I'm new here and love the thread very interesting views from many perspectives.
I'm 37 and am in morbid obese bracket standing at 5.10 weighting at 136.6kgs @ my heaviest my current weight is now 105.1 with a loss of 30kgs give or take over 12months time period.
I have a long way to go I know that! Mu point is that I have changed my lifestyle which is in my case what was needed to become a healthier me then the weight loss came with it! So to some my situation up, I wanted to lose weight to become healthier but in fact, I need to become healthier in general to lose the weight !
Please I am here to learn as much as I can to be a better me, so I welcome any help suggestions that anyone has to offer only journey!

[love2liftkat]

Hey guys I'm new here and love the thread very interesting views from many perspectives. I'm 37 and am in morbid obese bracket standing at 5.10 weighting at 136.6kgs @ my heaviest my current weight is now 105.1 with a loss of 30kgs give or take over 12months time period. I have a long way to go I know that! Mu point is that I have changed my lifestyle which is in my case what was needed to become a healthier me then the weight loss came with it! So to some my situation up, I wanted to lose weight to become healthier but in fact, I need to become healthier in general to lose the weight ! Please I am here to learn as much as I can to be a better me, so I welcome any help suggestions that anyone has to offer only journey!

Welcome! I'm newer here as well! Awesome job on all you have done so far!! Congratulations! That is a huge accomplishment and you should be very proud! Keep up those positive lifestyle changes and the results will continue to follow!

[HIT4ME]

Hey guys I'm new here and love the thread very interesting views from many perspectives.
I'm 37 and am in morbid obese bracket standing at 5.10 weighting at 136.6kgs @ my heaviest my current weight is now 105.1 with a loss of 30kgs give or take over 12months time period.
I have a long way to go I know that! Mu point is that I have changed my lifestyle which is in my case what was needed to become a healthier me then the weight loss came with it! So to some my situation up, I wanted to lose weight to become healthier but in fact, I need to become healthier in general to lose the weight !
Please I am here to learn as much as I can to be a better me, so I welcome any help suggestions that anyone has to offer only journey!

This is what I was saying earlier in the thread! Thanks for saying it better - most people are overweight because they are unhealthy, not unhealthy because they are fat. Great job! What you describe is very similar to my situation.

[karenduff]

Many people carrying excess fat have developed something called leptin resistance. Meaning, all those fat cells may be sending out lots of leptin, but your brain isn't getting the message.

[brobody]

It all boils down to calories in vs calories out.if you have low calories to maintain weight already then cardio is best bet, or a weight lifting program

[made2last]

Many people carrying excess fat have developed something called leptin resistance. Meaning, all those fat cells may be sending out lots of leptin, but your brain isn't getting the message.

Thank you Karen, nobody mentioned leptin resistance and that's the key reason some can't achieve an ideal weight. Yes some will respond to an improved diet, but ultimately the natural thermostat for that person is set to obese that's why it's a "struggle" for those ppl. So to answer the post, no, some people can't get down to a normal BMI because of leptin resistance.

[made2last]

It all boils down to calories in vs calories out.if you have low calories to maintain weight already then cardio is best bet, or a weight lifting program

Leptin resistance controls your energy output so it limits your ability to control "calories out" tremendously, not saying every obese person is leptin resisitant, some ppl do well with lifestyle changes, but it doesn't apply to all obese ppl either