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  1. Honey?


    Is there an acceptable form of honey we can eat if fat loss is the goal?


  2. I dont know what you mean by eating honey, how much do you plan to eat ? but you can eat in breakfast, not so much but a few teaspoon or maybe after trainings. The important point is you need to be careful if its real honey or added artificial sugar.
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  3. Doesn't really matter what form of honey you use as long as you fit it into your daily calories/carbs. 1 teaspoon honey = 64 calories 17 grams carbs.
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  4. Thank you

  5. I eat honey in my oatmeal every morning. I prefer it to sugar.
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  6. Get real honey, not the liquid(syrupy) crap.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Get real honey, not the liquid(syrupy) crap.
    U mean the one thats set?

  8. Raw, unpasteurized honey...
    If u must, lolz...

  9. I have a major sweet tooth thats all, what do u do if you crave something sweet?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by a312 View Post
    I have a major sweet tooth thats all, what do u do if you crave something sweet?
    I count down the days till my next cheat meal..
    Than I go hard my friend!! U can polish off six doughnuts , and a container of ice cream all in one sitting...
    After a huge sweet fix, I'm usually good for the week..

  11. Oops I meant to say I, not u lol...^^^

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    I count down the days till my next cheat meal..
    Than I go hard my friend!! U can polish off six doughnuts , and a container of ice cream all in one sitting...
    After a huge sweet fix, I'm usually good for the week..
    This! I do not have honey during a cut, but that doesn't mean you couldn't... I would add it in post workout, as your body utilizes the fast acting carbohydrates better then than the slower acting...

  13. Ok ok, I will b honest ....
    My cheat meal is on saturdays, but even a month out I was mega craving sweets by Wednesday...
    So I would break down n have a piece of dark chocolate and a diet Pepsi , ha ha...
    What helped me with stopping at just one piece was the protein I consumed prior to my guilty pleasure...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    Ok ok, I will b honest ....
    My cheat meal is on saturdays, but even a month out I was mega craving sweets by Wednesday...
    So I would break down n have a piece of dark chocolate and a diet Pepsi , ha ha...
    What helped me with stopping at just one piece was the protein I consumed prior to my guilty pleasure...
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  15. Honey is really helpful in weight loss.

  16. Really? In what regard? Where did you get the info honey can help weight loss?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rostam View Post
    Really? In what regard? Where did you get the info honey can help weight loss?
    This! The only thing I can think of is supplementing honey in post workout, since your body craves simple carbs... other than that... i got nothing...
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  18. I add it in my oatmeal also along with dashes of cinnamon and pb. I can't wait till the morning now just to indulge in my breakfast!!

  19. I'll have about a teaspoon every morning.
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  20. There's nothing wrong with honey, or even pure sugar, on a diet. You should have a calorie goal, and if you want honey, just eat it and note how many calories it has. The only "problem" with calorie dense foods when dieting is that they don't provide much satiety nor much volume, so you use up your daily allotment of calories quickly. For example a squirt of honey probably has the same calories as a whole cup or two of broccoli. Which do you think will keep you fuller for longer? No need to avoid sugars unless you're diabetic!

  21. But honey tastes better.... I can't drizzle broccoli over my sweet potatoe fries
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    But honey tastes better.... I can't drizzle broccoli over my sweet potatoe fries
    Ha, nope guess you can't! My favorite way to eat sweet potatoes is to peel one, dice it to 1/2" chunks or so, microwave it, then sprinkle a packet of Splenda over them followed by some cinnamon. No extra calories and it tastes great. To be honest I still haven't figured out a good way to spice up broccoli :/

  23. Garlic butter works for me
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by a312 View Post
    I have a major sweet tooth thats all, what do u do if you crave something sweet?
    There is a thread somewhere around here that I gave a list of a lot of things I make when I get a sweet tooth. If its right after training I indulge a "little" but if its after dinner my main go to thing now is a protein brownie.

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    If you love dark chocolate like me, a little sprinkle of cocoa powder on top works great.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by hypo View Post
    There's nothing wrong with honey, or even pure sugar, on a diet. You should have a calorie goal, and if you want honey, just eat it and note how many calories it has. The only "problem" with calorie dense foods when dieting is that they don't provide much satiety nor much volume, so you use up your daily allotment of calories quickly. For example a squirt of honey probably has the same calories as a whole cup or two of broccoli. Which do you think will keep you fuller for longer? No need to avoid sugars unless you're diabetic!
    How do you think diabetics are made? There is plenty of research out there showing the detrimental effects of sugar on the human body, it's effects on the brain etc. I don't think that, just because you can't immediately see or feel the effects of something, you can say with 100% certainty that it's not doing your health any harm.

    That being said, I do think that there may be some benefit to keeping your blood sugar levels stable if you're looking to lose weight. You'll feel a lot more satiated if you keep your blood sugar levels stable without extreme peaks and troughs.

    Many bodybuilders develop hyperinsulinemia as a result of the 'no need to avoid sugars so lets constantly spike our insulin with simple carbs and whey' mentality. I think there's definitely more than one way to skin a cat (the cat being optimal body composition) and sometimes the old thinking of needing to get carbs in post workout, etc. with a protein shake may not be as accurate as we first thought.
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  26. Peanut butter and honey sandwiches are one of my favorite post-workout meals.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by ilia_p View Post

    How do you think diabetics are made? There is plenty of research out there showing the detrimental effects of sugar on the human body, it's effects on the brain etc. I don't think that, just because you can't immediately see or feel the effects of something, you can say with 100% certainty that it's not doing your health any harm.

    That being said, I do think that there may be some benefit to keeping your blood sugar levels stable if you're looking to lose weight. You'll feel a lot more satiated if you keep your blood sugar levels stable without extreme peaks and troughs.

    Many bodybuilders develop hyperinsulinemia as a result of the 'no need to avoid sugars so lets constantly spike our insulin with simple carbs and whey' mentality. I think there's definitely more than one way to skin a cat (the cat being optimal body composition) and sometimes the old thinking of needing to get carbs in post workout, etc. with a protein shake may not be as accurate as we first thought.
    There's some validity to that. But I digress ;

    Honey is glucose and fructose but I believe isomaltulose is found in there as well which is a sugar that is slow digesting and made into a supplement as a GRAS sweetener

    Here's a study on isomaltulose and insulin (is reducing the spikes is what you want)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19671200/

    So palantinose would be your product in this respect

  28. Quote Originally Posted by a312 View Post
    Is there an acceptable form of honey we can eat if fat loss is the goal?
    The kind you eat. Just fit it in.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by ilia_p View Post
    How do you think diabetics are made? There is plenty of research out there showing the detrimental effects of sugar on the human body, it's effects on the brain etc. I don't think that, just because you can't immediately see or feel the effects of something, you can say with 100% certainty that it's not doing your health any harm.

    That being said, I do think that there may be some benefit to keeping your blood sugar levels stable if you're looking to lose weight. You'll feel a lot more satiated if you keep your blood sugar levels stable without extreme peaks and troughs.

    Many bodybuilders develop hyperinsulinemia as a result of the 'no need to avoid sugars so lets constantly spike our insulin with simple carbs and whey' mentality. I think there's definitely more than one way to skin a cat (the cat being optimal body composition) and sometimes the old thinking of needing to get carbs in post workout, etc. with a protein shake may not be as accurate as we first thought.
    Actually, I used to think a high GI diet led to diabetes also, however this has never been proven in research. Check this article:

    http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-sc...rb-a-carb.html

    Even diabetes foundations admit a high sugar diet is not directly linked to type 2 diabetes. Research shows a link between obese people and type 2 diabetes forming, and also a study has shown that people who drink sugary drinks are more likely to develop type 2 diabetes, BUT the consensus seems to be that being overweight is the risk factor, NOT the sugar or insulin spike itself (people who drink sugary drinks are more likely to be overweight due to the high calorie consumption)

    I was very surprised to learn this myself, for years I had heard that insulin spikes essentially wear out the pancreas, but it turns out it's not true, or at least not proven.

    If you could show me some of the studies you mention I'd love to read them. Still learning myself. Also I still tend towards a lower GI diet mostly due to habit and more volume per calorie, but I just stress less over eating fast carbs now. My post just meant to explain that if the OP wants honey, he/she should go for it.

    Edit: also check out the comments/discussion going on here:

    http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/is-a-carb-a-carb/
    Last edited by hypo; 01-21-2014 at 12:45 PM.
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