[hgjespersen]

Dat dere Alphamine

[bdcc]

Of the two, I prefer Alphamine.
Just a personal preference for me. I like other iForce products though.

They feel completely different. Both potent. How successful you are in your goals is still up to your diet. These things won't suddenly increase your calorie expenditure and make you shed weight. You still have to do that on your own. I personally see them as aides for muscle preservation, increased energy & mood and possibly appetite suppression. I dont get much appetite suppression from anything though...

Alphamine has better mood enhancement, IMO. It also feels like cleaner energy, for me. Not knocking Dex, I've tried all 3 versions.

I love my alphamine. I take it in the morning and I am hungry for another 3 to 4 hours

Haven't got a chance to use Dexaprine XR yet. Really a big fan of Dexaprine OG and have no doubt XR is a winner.

Alphamine is by far the best energy giving "fat burner" out there. Didn't crush my appetite, but anytime I took it I was flying. If you're looking for the most energy I'd go with it.

Really two good products and you may just have to decide if you want powder or not. Alphamine also tastes delicious.

Alpha

Dat dere Alphamine

Thanks.

[bakerwil]

Thanks.

Problem is Alphamine just does not do the job. I really don't think I could ever get cut using only alphamine. Dex on the other hand - yes. And using e with either works well to - but you need to take too many servings of alphamine to get the same effect as 1/2 a Dex. Keep in mind that I use Alphamine and have two un-opened tubs - it serves well keep the body tight and spare muscle....but beyond that....it just cannot supress appetite like you need to or roast off the fat like Dex does - when your 6-8 weeks into a 12 week cut cycle. Just my OP.

[laneanders]

I've never used Alphamine but Dexaprine XR is great. I use it with Ephedrine personally.

[bakerwil]

I've never used Alphamine but Dexaprine XR is great. I use it with Ephedrine personally.

That's what works for me, but I find Dex V2 much more effective than XR....

[LiveToLift]

Problem is Alphamine just does not do the job.

I think plenty would beg to differ. Cutting takes some effort. You can't just take a supplement alone and eat junk then expect results. Have you tried dosing it on an empty stomach? This is when I notice the appetite suppression the strongest. Everyone has a preference but to claim "just doesn't do the job" is by all means untrue.

[hvactech]

So drinking 2 scoops alphamine post a dozen boston creme donuts won't suffice?

[bdcc]

So drinking 2 scoops alphamine post a dozen boston creme donuts won't suffice?

No, you take it pre donuts for the amylase inhibition effects of chlorogenic acid.

[bakerwil]

I think plenty would beg to differ. Cutting takes some effort. You can't just take a supplement alone and eat junk then expect results. Have you tried dosing it on an empty stomach? This is when I notice the appetite suppression the strongest. Everyone has a preference but to claim "just doesn't do the job" is by all means untrue.

I have never not taken Alphamine on an empty stomach. I have no idea what makes you think I eat junk food Bud (not a good thing for a rep to comment like this btw - first time I have seen a PES rep not be cool). I know how to cut and have done it many times before.How it effects other people has no bearing on how it effects me and yes, I know how it effects others - I am on the forum everyday. I use Alphamine and I want to eat within an hour under a calorie deficit. Keep in mind that I use both your product and Dex. They both have their place. So your getting the sale Bud...no worries. I am entitled to my opinion - and if I had one choice I would use Dex.

[bakerwil]

No, you take it pre donuts for the amylase inhibition effects of chlorogenic acid.

Another PES rep giving his company a bad to by dissing it's customer. Guys - really it does not look good when you do this. Ya have to think - what I am on this forum? Well it's to promote and influence folks to use PES, but most importantly provide good PR for PES in all communications. The customer is always right. Bud, I buy PES products daily - and I use Alphamine in cycles. May as well read my comment to the other meathead while your at it..

[LiveToLift]

I have never not taken Alphamine on an empty stomach. I have no idea what makes you think I eat junk food Bud (not a good thing for a rep to comment like this btw - first time I have seen a PES rep not be cool). I know how to cut and have done it many times before.How it effects other people has no bearing on how it effects me and yes, I know how it effects others - I am on the forum everyday. I use Alphamine and I want to eat within an hour under a calorie deficit. Keep in mind that I use both your product and Dex. They both have their place. So your getting the sale Bud...no worries. I am entitled to my opinion - and if I had one choice I would use Dex.

I'm very sorry you feel this way sir. It was not my intent to belittle or attack you in any way. Just trying to inform that just because a product works one way for you does not mean it can't cut it. Especially when a vast majority of the reviews suggest otherwise. I truly feel you did not understand the point of my post. Had you worded your response just a little differently and made your points in more of a personal experience rather than an overall opinion there would have been no response.

Once again I am sorry that you feel the response was an attack, because that most certainly is not the case. I'm very happy you enjoy our products and thank you kindly for the support!

[bdcc]

Another PES rep giving his company a bad to by dissing it's customer. Guys - really it does not look good when you do this. Ya have to think - what I am on this forum? Well it's to promote and influence folks to use PES, but most importantly provide good PR for PES in all communications. The customer is always right. Bud, I buy PES products daily - and I use Alphamine in cycles. May as well read my comment to the other meathead while your at it..

I don't understand what you mean, I am not dissing the customer at all.

Amylase inhibition of chlorogenic acid was a proposed MOA in the study where green coffee bean extract was used to reduce fat mass in overweight subjects without any change to diet or training.

So, when hvactech made a joke about taking it after donuts I said it would work better if taken before. This is in no way intended as an insult and I am not implying that any of our customers are trying to lose weight by supplement Alphamine on a junk food diet.

I think you have misinterpreted my post.

[bakerwil]

I don't understand what you mean, I am not dissing the customer at all.

Amylase inhibition of chlorogenic acid was a proposed MOA in the study where green coffee bean extract was used to reduce fat mass in overweight subjects without any change to diet or training.

So, when hvactech made a joke about taking it after donuts I said it would work better if taken before. This is in no way intended as an insult and I am not implying that any of our customers are trying to lose weight by supplement Alphamine on a junk food diet.

I think you have misinterpreted my post.

Suggesting that I don't know how to dose it (taking it pre-donuts) I took as dissing a very well informed customer.
Your post was not so bad - but the combination of the two posts....put you in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I apologize to you and your partner - your just joking around. I am deep into a cut (week 10 of 12) preparing for a local contest and may be a little on edge right now. Do you think? I'll take a couple scoops a Alphamine and I'll feel better....thanks PES.

[LiveToLift]

Suggesting that I don't know how to dose it (taking it pre-donuts) I took as dissing a very well informed customer.
Your post was not so bad - but the combination of the two posts....put you in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I apologize to you and your partner - your just joking around. I am deep into a cut (week 10 of 12) preparing for a local contest and may be a little on edge right now. Do you think? I'll take a couple scoops a Alphamine and I'll feel better....thanks PES.

Good luck with the contest!!! No apology necessary! Just a misunderstanding. Bdcc is quite the joker.

[bdcc]

Just to clarify, although it was a light hearted post I am definitely not dissing anyone. If you look through my post history you won't find any posts of a rude nature. It is a strict policy of mine.

[bakerwil]

Just to clarify, although it was a light hearted post I am definitely not dissing anyone. If you look through my post history you won't find any posts of a rude nature. It is a strict policy of mine.

Again, I apologize and have read numerous posts by you and agree....

[Touey]

Just to clarify, although it was a light hearted post I am definitely not dissing anyone. If you look through my post history you won't find any posts of a rude nature. It is a strict policy of mine.

It is true am harassing bdcc all the time still is never rude though

[LiveToLift]

It is true am harassing bdcc all the time still is never rude though

Now it's a party!

[xR1pp3Rx]

alphamine crushes my appetite so much that I recently started IF unintentionally... I just eat till im full then pass out from the flood of insulin. wake up drink a few cups of joe.. wait till about 8 am and drink 1.5 scoops with 50mgs of 95forsk and go to work.. come home take another 1.5/50 and wait till I get hungry again. usually around 7ish. pig out.. repeat

[bakerwil]

alphamine crushes my appetite so much that I recently started IF unintentionally... I just eat till im full then pass out from the flood of insulin. wake up drink a few cups of joe.. wait till about 8 am and drink 1.5 scoops with 50mgs of 95forsk and go to work.. come home take another 1.5/50 and wait till I get hungry again. usually around 7ish. pig out.. repeat

Got the same results at the beginning of my cut, but a couple of weeks in - no dice (at 4-5 scoops a day). Could not stop the hunger. I needed something else and had Dexaprine V2 around. 7 weeks in now - and I am still rolling along. I still take a couple of scoops of Alphamine each day cause it is beneficial in other ways, but without the Dexaprine, I would not this cut. I keep a Dex in my pocket and have a bite when needed. Very, very convenient and effective when following IF. From this thread and the reviews on Alphamine, I would appear to be from outer space - in that - it does not supress my appetite as well as it does for others. I find you build up a tolerance to Alphamine way to quick. Enhanced, I find, works better than Alphamine for appetite suppression. But plain and simple, PES and Iforce make great products....which I use extensively.