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  1.  02-22-2013  02:55 PM
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    Wholegrains


    Whats the deal with wholegrain and wholemeal carbs? No good?

    Also, oats so simple the microwaveable kind? Nk good? Which oats are best?

    All this with the goal being fat loss

    Thank you



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    If the goal is fat loss I'd cut out all grains and processed food.

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    Originally Posted by a312 View Post
    Whats the deal with wholegrain and wholemeal carbs? No good?

    Also, oats so simple the microwaveable kind? Nk good? Which oats are best?

    All this with the goal being fat loss

    Thank you
    Steel cut oats are the best!! But rolled is minimally proccessed

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    So rolled oats are still ok u would say? But steel cut is the better option

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    I am not sure "what the deal it" I can tell you that if I get gluten in my diet at all I tend to blow up. So gluten free tends to work the best for me.

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    Originally Posted by digitalducki View Post
    If the goal is fat loss I'd cut out all grains and processed food.
    If the goal is fat loss then you need to ingest less calories than you expend, ideally -500 daily average. There is some research that concludes macro/nutrient timing has some effect on on body composition independent of calorific content. You don't need to cut out any whole food groups - you really don't!

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    Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    If the goal is fat loss then you need to ingest less calories than you expend, ideally -500 daily average. There is some research that concludes macro/nutrient timing has some effect on on body composition independent of calorific content. You don't need to cut out any whole food groups - you really don't!
    this. unless youre prepping for a competition, just concentrate on eating less cals than you burn.
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    I avoid grains in general (also gluten free) and there is a thread on here started by ZiR Red that goes into the reasoning behind it.
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    I also avoid grains. Don't miss em a bit

  10.  03-08-2013  04:22 AM
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    Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    I avoid grains in general (also gluten free) and there is a thread on here started by ZiR Red that goes into the reasoning behind it.
    Yes, but they are for other reasons, I think, than because they are a carbohydrate. There is also a nutritional counter-argument. But my point is that if you enjoy wholegrains, I do, then you don't need to deprive yourself of them thinking it would offer a greater amount of fat loss.

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    Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Yes, but they are for other reasons, I think, than because they are a carbohydrate. There is also a nutritional counter-argument. But my point is that if you enjoy wholegrains, I do, then you don't need to deprive yourself of them thinking it would offer a greater amount of fat loss.
    The fact they are a carbohydrate is of no concern, the fact is, is that wheat is genetically engineered by crossing wheat with non-wheat grasses and via a few other processes (including xray and gamma ray) to make the plants more resiliant. This link explains it much better than I ever could.

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    Steel cut oats are popular but gah I can't get over the texture.....chewy oatmeal...boooo. gotta cook those buggers for like 30mins
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    Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Steel cut oats are popular but gah I can't get over the texture.....chewy oatmeal...boooo. gotta cook those buggers for like 30mins
    Same here, can't get past the texture

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    Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    The fact they are a carbohydrate is of no concern, the fact is, is that wheat is genetically engineered by crossing wheat with non-wheat grasses and via a few other processes (including xray and gamma ray) to make the plants more resiliant. This link explains it much better than I ever could.

    http://jasoncholewa.com/2013/02/08/e...d-your-health/
    Just read the article...very informative. It's convinced me to at least try a gluten free diet. But I wonder only 40 to 50 grams per day would have much of an effect.

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    Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Just read the article...very informative. It's convinced me to at least try a gluten free diet. But I wonder only 40 to 50 grams per day would have much of an effect.
    It is very interesting, and very well researched. Give it a try for a month or so and report back if you notice any differences.
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    caloric deficitis what matters for weightloss but when choosing carbs, whole wheat and whole grain is a good route to go for overall health as well as physique

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    Originally Posted by alaskabound
    caloric deficitis what matters for weightloss but when choosing carbs, whole wheat and whole grain is a good route to go for overall health as well as physique
    Have to disagree.

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    Originally Posted by alaskabound View Post
    caloric deficitis what matters for weightloss but when choosing carbs, whole wheat and whole grain is a good route to go for overall health as well as physique
    As Tomahawk said, this is disputed. Do you know what the definition of whole wheat is?
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    Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Have to disagree.
    Disagree with which part of the statement, the first or the second?

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    Originally Posted by saggy321
    Disagree with which part of the statement, the first or the second?
    Second

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