Fat burners???

[mitch23]

Anybody know of good fat burners that actually work??

[howwedo107]

Depends if you want a stim or non stim or a combo....

Stim PNI thermadex it burns fat and keeps your appetite down and has a small diuretic effect (20$)

Non stim BPS vanillean it has great thermogenesis effects and that is under 20$

So stack both man you won't be disappointed at all

[mitch23]

Thanks man I just want to drop bodyfat and tone up

[howwedo107]

Thanks man I just want to drop bodyfat and tone up

Assuming you have a good diet and workout routine deff pick up thermadex and with proof of purchase PNI does free diet programs done by Eric Broser (who looks amazing lol)

[malleus25]

First diet then
ECA for cheap and effective.

you could also try AGEFORCE weight loss patches.

[jswain34]

EC+your choice of non stim fat burner containing yohimbine (alpha-y/ruowolscine are my personal favs).

[bboyflash]

Jump rope + tabatas!

[jcciv]

EC+your choice of non stim fat burner containing yohimbine (alpha-y/ruowolscine are my personal favs).

If this is your first experience with fat burners then I would not suggest combining Yohimbine with ephedrine and caffeine.

[Mack411]

SNS tta-500,Rk500 xtreme,And reduce xt would be an awesome stack.what experience do you have in these type of supplements?there are plenty of good fat loss supplements to choose from right now.

[hvactech]

formutech's lean efx refined or natural efx would do the job nicely.

[diezel]

I'm currently using OxyELITE Pro with Compound 20. After two weeks I can already see some fat gone off my midsection.

[AlexErdellan]

Alphamine or ECA

[onemorerep22]

if your on AAS but need extra push what fat burner would be ideal promoting fat loss that is comparable to a ECA stack?

[jimbuick]

if your on AAS but need extra push what fat burner would be ideal promoting fat loss that is comparable to a ECA stack?

If you're on AAS and need an extra push your diet is garbage....

[hvactech]

if your on AAS but need extra push what fat burner would be ideal promoting fat loss that is comparable to a ECA stack?

what aas? if thats the route you wanna go then make sure your blood pressure is under control

[onemorerep22]

no its not plenty of people add fat burners etc to aid in fat loss while on AAS. I don't mean a push to get into the gym or diet. I mean for aiding in peer fat loss after dieting for 7 weeks to kick it up a notch.

[jimbuick]

no its not plenty of people add fat burners etc to aid in fat loss while on AAS. I don't mean a push to get into the gym or diet. I mean for aiding in peer fat loss after dieting for 7 weeks to kick it up a notch.

My point is that AAS should BE the extra push for weight loss (well actually my opinion on the matter is that if you have a significant amount of weight to lose, ie beginner to lifting, you shouldn't use AAS and should hash out your diet first)

[onemorerep22]

lol alright boss so your telling me people who are getting for a competition just use pure AAS and dont run fat burners like eca stack, clen, dnp. lol k.

[jimbuick]

lol alright boss so your telling me people who are getting for a competition just use pure AAS and dont run fat burners like eca stack, clen, dnp. lol k.

I said that somewhere? I didn't think so.

Are you in competition prep? (Also notice I made my opinion very clear in the above post about AAS use)

There's a difference in a guy needing a push to get to <5% bf than a guy trying to get <15%.

[onemorerep22]

i guess i should i make myself clear. you have good points. Yes im doing a competition prep on my own and seeing what does work and doesn't. Im at 10% or lower and want to see what will otc fat burner do without jumping to the serious stuff. I appreciate your time and opinion brah.