Fat loss after Holidays - 1st approach to Intermittent Fasting

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  1. I understand, good thinking. so even if I don't weight myself but my trousers feel larger I should consider it a good sign?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Because the scale messes with your head and body composition isn't as easy as looking at the number. Water weight fluctuates 5lbs in a given day. I don't know what I weigh right now... Somewhere mid 160s. Should be eating with consistently anyway. That's just how it works.

    Ape, its possible. Did you replace those calories with fats or protein? Also consider micronutrients you need. But your saying its been this way before. If it is diet related here's one way to try and figure it out: as soon as you wake up what's your instinctive go to food source? There's something in there you need and subjectively know it has
    Good drop on the extra knowledge here.

    As for me;I really think it was a mix of not sleeping, and boredom. However, like I said it seemed to be exactly what I needed.

    First thing in the AM is my Alphamine, but this would usually be coffee.

    Hour later its protein pancakes and eggs. Oats, cottage cheese, and eggs are the main batter ingredients.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    I understand, good thinking. so even if I don't weight myself but my trousers feel larger I should consider it a good sign?
    Its hard to say because your log really could use more numbers. If your consistently getting 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight, your calories are where they have to be and your are exercising regularly the diet will work.

    I think the fast in a lean gains program has just enough positive impact on your hormones to really make the difference for someone who is stuck with their current diet.

    In regards to weighing yourself every day i can put on 8-10 pounds in a day on a carb refeed, so i would weigh myself on the same day every week and make sure that day was a low carb day (water weight).

    again, i would play around with something like this to get your baseline macros, http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/

  4. That's an awesome page I use it everytime. Regardless of using IF or not it's just a good way to calculate macros for the diet and see where the numbers are. I have the print out in front of me as I'm rewriting my carb cycling.

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  5. that looks like an useful website .)
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  6. sooo... apparently I started to see a *beginning* of iliac crest (only when facing opposite light) yesterday after the training. I still think I am possibly deluded BUT STILL, it is something that never happened before.
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  7. I think I finally understood the meanng of "water weight", especially when eating carbs.

    have started taking alphamine + triazole, it does help with hunger suppression.
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  8. Hey whatever little things drive you to keep on keepin on.

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  9. do carbs influence water weight?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    do carbs influence water weight?
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    Absolutely. Consider that all things a made and broken down with water. And osmosis plays a role as well. If a cell is filled with carbohydrates then water will rush in to maintain an isotonic concentration to the surrounding area outside the cell. It's important as for when it comes time to break down glycogen that water is essential to retrieving glucose molecules:

    (Glucose-Glucose) + H2O = Glucose + Glucose <---Glycolysis of glycogen into glucose monomers
    Glucose + Glucose - H20 = (Glucose-Glucose) +H2O<---Glycogenesis forming glycogen by binding of glucose monomers

    This is a very very simple model.... there's a lot more to it than that.

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  11. so the more carbs are eaten the more water they actually store.
    this explains a lot :P
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  12. During my fast can I have a low carb monster pretty sure its under 50 calories? Also cycling in a ECA stack im only taking them on my low calorie day then stop during my weight lifting.

    What do u guys think?

  13. again, I do not understand IF. one day I eat a lot and nothing happens, another I think I starve and I weigh more. ah well :P
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by rhino65 View Post
    During my fast can I have a low carb monster pretty sure its under 50 calories? Also cycling in a ECA stack im only taking them on my low calorie day then stop during my weight lifting.

    What do u guys think?

    Ultimately your calorie intake at this time should be zero. 50 is too much ill give you that right now. Ive done the Absolute Zero and its been ok but high amounts of citric acid might affect you - its person dependent with that. In addition, Martin Berkam also states you should never "drink" your calories but I break fast with a post workout shake while I prepare a monstrous breakfast.

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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    again, I do not understand IF. one day I eat a lot and nothing happens, another I think I starve and I weigh more. ah well :P
    I think you weigh yourself too often for one thing. Relax.

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  16. took yesterday as day off from IF, was feeling very funny in the stomach.
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  17. I legit hate eating during any other time than my feeding window I feel like crap. Enough of a reason not to cheat. There are always certain days it just need to happen - feeling sick or dizzy for whatever reason. Just listen to your body.

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    again, I do not understand IF. one day I eat a lot and nothing happens, another I think I starve and I weigh more. ah well :P
    Weight yourself once a week, every week, with the same routine (I.E. Sunday morning first thing after taking a piss).

    If you weigh yourself every day and pay attention to the natural fluctuations you will go nuts. And you will think you need to fix something that doesn't need fixing. So stop
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  19. I loosely follow the IF protocol without really noticing, but i havent been counting cals/macros. What would you guys consider the maximum deficit for a cut or a good starting point for a recomp?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Weight yourself once a week, every week, with the same routine (I.E. Sunday morning first thing after taking a piss).

    If you weigh yourself every day and pay attention to the natural fluctuations you will go nuts. And you will think you need to fix something that doesn't need fixing. So stop
    gym mate says he thinks I'm slimming up. I don't really se myself that different, ah well :P
    little strength gains, but steady.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    gym mate says he thinks I'm slimming up. I don't really se myself that different, ah well :P
    little strength gains, but steady.
    Of course you don't. I lost ten pounds and put on some muscle from March to August and I didn't think I looked different at all really. But everyone commented on it that hadn't seen me in a while.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post

    Weight yourself once a week, every week, with the same routine (I.E. Sunday morning first thing after taking a piss).

    If you weigh yourself every day and pay attention to the natural fluctuations you will go nuts. And you will think you need to fix something that doesn't need fixing. So stop
    I weigh myself everyday and look in mirror for changes and do body fat testing 2x a week. I do this so I don't count cals and adjust by the nunbers

  23. siiiigh... some alcohol/appetizer stuff and I just know I've done worse LOL
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    siiiigh... some alcohol/appetizer stuff and I just know I've done worse LOL
    According to Berkham there is a way to consume alcohol while minimizing some of the negative reprocussions. I strongly recommend you to don't try your hand at it until you understand the IF diet better. Best bet is to just keep it off.


    Quote Originally Posted by he-man View Post
    I loosely follow the IF protocol without really noticing, but i havent been counting cals/macros. What would you guys consider the maximum deficit for a cut or a good starting point for a recomp?
    http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/

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