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Want to run t3 and trenazone. Doses?

  1.  11-15-2012  11:22 AM
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    Want to run t3 and trenazone. Doses?


    Hey guys, I want to run t3 and trenazone together. I am about to start trenazone next week and was wondering if I could run t3 with it for
    31 days. I just finished a bulk and am currently 5'7, 181 lbs flat on keto diet and 15% bf. Currently running ultradrol to preserve muscle while cutting on keto.

    Current diet: 700 calorie deficit, keto
    157 fat
    200 protein
    30 carbs
    I'm in keto on day 3.

    I want to get to about 9-10% bf by December 31. I am working up to a 900 calorie deficit and was wondering if adding t3 with trenazone would help this. Also, what doses of these 2 will maximize fat loss and minimize fat gain? I have done research and understand that I need to up my protein intake on t3.



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    Yes, definitely up your protein and aminos to help with muscle loss, but the supps should help with that as well. How long have you been on keto?

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    4 days so far but it only took me 36 hours to get into keto. I'm stoked about getting shredded

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    Just make sure you hit a good 25 to 50 grams of protein per meal. On top of the Trenazone, you will be fine with maintaining muscle. I really hope you post a log!

    Just make sure to back off the dose of t3 if you notice strength starting to decline, or you start noticing you are losing lean mass.

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    Great idea, will post a log once I start t3 on December 1st.
    Just trying to get as lean as possible before starting my test prop/tren ace 8 weeker

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    Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx
    Hey guys, I want to run t3 and trenazone together. I am about to start trenazone next week and was wondering if I could run t3 with it for
    31 days. I just finished a bulk and am currently 5'7, 181 lbs flat on keto diet and 15% bf. Currently running ultradrol to preserve muscle while cutting on keto.

    Current diet: 700 calorie deficit, keto
    157 fat
    200 protein
    30 carbs
    I'm in keto on day 3.

    I want to get to about 9-10% bf by December 31. I am working up to a 900 calorie deficit and was wondering if adding t3 with trenazone would help this. Also, what doses of these 2 will maximize fat loss and minimize fat gain? I have done research and understand that I need to up my protein intake on t3.
    What are you running the T3 dosing at?

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    4 days 25 mcg
    4 days 50 mcg
    7 days 75 mcg
    4 days 100 mcg
    4 days 75 mcg
    4 days 50 mcg
    4 days 25 mcg

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    Also, can I stay in ketosis? I would like to

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    Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx
    4 days 25 mcg
    4 days 50 mcg
    7 days 75 mcg
    4 days 100 mcg
    4 days 75 mcg
    4 days 50 mcg
    4 days 25 mcg
    Damn that seems high bro. I didn't realize that trenazone was that anabolic. I was actually thinking of the same cycle but I wouldn't go that high IMO. I was thinking about sticking around 25mcg, prob no higher then 50mcg. I was worried about cannibalism of lean muscle mass.

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    I've heard that you can run 75-100 without
    losing mass with a perfect diet and anabolics. 25mg is mainly for increased nutrient repartitioning while bulking from what I've heard. Regardless of my dosing, ill keep u updated.

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    Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx
    I've heard that you can run 75-100 without
    losing mass with a perfect diet and anabolics. 25mg is mainly for increased nutrient repartitioning while bulking from what I've heard. Regardless of my dosing, ill keep u updated.
    Yeah def bro. I'll keep my eye out on this thread. I was talking to a couple other of the vets who made it seem as if T3 ain't nothin to fck with, so that is why I was concerned withy the dosing. People say the Thyroid bounces back with ease and others say it doesn't. Looking forward to your log mane.

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    Ramping up is a good idea. Trenazone will help keep you anabolic, but just keep on the lookout for diminishing strength and if you're losing size too fast. T3 is powerful.
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    Personally even along side Trenazone, I would recommend only going as high as 50mcg of T3. Going to 100mcg will more than likely result in muscle loss, as 100mcg is a pretty high dose of T3 even with Trenazone. If I can make a suggestion, since you are running Keto you will be flat irregardless of what anabolics you run that until you carb load that is. T3 is just going to make you even "flatter" especially at a dosage of 75-100mcgs. If I where you I would look at running T3 at 25-50mcg for the duration of your cycle with Trenazone, and some clen. That should help you drop 3-4% bodyfat as long as your diet and cardio is in check. I have run keto many times, and I would not suggest using over 50mcg T3 while on keto, clen/albuterol on the other hand with Keto is great, helps drop bf% while maintianing muscle mass.
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    Originally Posted by Littlefry
    Personally even along side Trenazone, I would recommend only going as high as 50mcg of T3. Going to 100mcg will more than likely result in muscle loss, as 100mcg is a pretty high dose of T3 even with Trenazone. If I can make a suggestion, since you are running Keto you will be flat irregardless of what anabolics you run that until you carb load that is. T3 is just going to make you even "flatter" especially at a dosage of 75-100mcgs. If I where you I would look at running T3 at 25-50mcg for the duration of your cycle with Trenazone, and some clen. That should help you drop 3-4% bodyfat as long as your diet and cardio is in check. I have run keto many times, and I would not suggest using over 50mcg T3 while on keto, clen/albuterol on the other hand with Keto is great, helps drop bf% while maintianing muscle mass.
    Can transaderm be ran with T3 at low does as well. Or not anabolic enough?

    Also since I'm talking to you, how long is the self life of your liver health if refrigerated...? First time heard of that, but I bought four and I don't want them to go bad.

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    Ok, I'll stay at 50 mcg most of the time and see how my body responds. Thanks!

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    Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    Can transaderm be ran with T3 at low does as well. Or not anabolic enough?

    Also since I'm talking to you, how long is the self life of your liver health if refrigerated...? First time heard of that, but I bought four and I don't want them to go bad.
    Yes, a transadermal such as our Trenazone can be ran with a low dose of T3 (25-50mcg's max) to help prevent muscle loss due to the catabolic nature of T3. However, I would still suggest running clen ramping up to 100-120mcg's with a low 25mcg dose of T3 alongside Trenazone rather then running a high dose of T3 - 100mcg's without clen. Clen plus low dose T3 will be a more favorable stack, then higher dosed T3 alongside an anabolic.

    By our liver supplement Im assuming you mean Aegis? If so than it can last years while being refrigerated.
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    Be careful running any thyroid hormone man. Recipe for causing hyperthyroidism/hypothyroidism..

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    Originally Posted by Littlefry

    Yes, a transadermal such as our Trenazone can be ran with a low dose of T3 (25-50mcg's max) to help prevent muscle loss due to the catabolic nature of T3. However, I would still suggest running clen ramping up to 100-120mcg's with a low 25mcg dose of T3 alongside Trenazone rather then running a high dose of T3 - 100mcg's without clen. Clen plus low dose T3 will be a more favorable stack, then higher dosed T3 alongside an anabolic.

    By our liver supplement Im assuming you mean Aegis? If so than it can last years while being refrigerated.
    Thanks for the heads up. Yeah, Aegis is what I'm running with as that is what I have read is the best. T3 worries me, I get hyped up to use it and then there is always a guy who says you can possibly get Hypothyroidism. I would only run it at a low dose, but....

    The stack I was thinking was Ostarine, transdermal, T3 or GW. I might go with the GW though.

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    Update: Got clenbuterol/t3 coming in the mail Monday and have lost almost 1% bodyfat this week. Wasn't planning on getting clen, but thank you Black Friday!

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    Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. Yeah, Aegis is what I'm running with as that is what I have read is the best. T3 worries me, I get hyped up to use it and then there is always a guy who says you can possibly get Hypothyroidism. I would only run it at a low dose, but....

    The stack I was thinking was Ostarine, transdermal, T3 or GW. I might go with the GW though.
    Many of my friends who compete at a provincal level (Canadian) run T3/Clen for 12-14 weeks and their thyroid levels always come back normal 2-3 weeks later after tapering off T3. I personally thing that Hypothyroidism caused by T3 has been one of those things that has been over-hyped so to say on the interent forums. A small dose of T3 at 25-50mcg will aid in fat loss pretty well.

    Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    Update: Got clenbuterol/t3 coming in the mail Monday and have lost almost 1% bodyfat this week. Wasn't planning on getting clen, but thank you Black Friday!
    Nice, Clen plus T3 should treat you pretty good. What type of dosing/protocol are you looking at running with Clen+T3?

    Also a dose of Trenazone around the 2-2.5ml mark should help to aid in any muscle catabolism caused by the T3.
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