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    I'm sure you could even run a light ph to preserve muscle while cutting but I'd do it naturally so you know how to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by willc86

    thanks for all the responses lol

    ok well, this is what my diet looks like for cutting

    am - roxy lean and a-HD from BPi

    1.) 2 scoops of protein 1/2 cup oatmeal 1TBSP of peanut butter

    2.) whole wheat pasta / 5-6 oz chicken / scoop protein

    gym 1 hour heavy lifting

    3.) 2 fruits / tuna 1 whole can

    4.) 2 scoops protein

    5.) cup of veggies / fish or chick or tuna or a scoop of protein (30-40g)

    6.)1 cup or 2 cups broccoli / 6-8 oz chicken

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    so far I lost 10 lbs but I just want to make sure I do not lose muscle mass

    stats - currently 205 lbs 6ft tall probably 13-14% body fat 34 inch waste

    goal 230-240lbs @ 8-10% body fat
    As far as this goes you may will need anabolics to accomplish this in a short amount of time but give it a year. Get real cut then bulk then cut and repeat and you could find yourself there
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    none really do, not with any significant amount of speed or success at either. On a long testosterone cycle, you could lose 4lbs of fat while adding 10-12 lbs of muscle fairly reasonably, but losing 4lbs of fat in a month isn't too terrible either without the anabolics.

    well I mean like in general; can be 1 lb of fat lost with 5 lbs of muscle gained in 2 or 3 months (just an example.)

    what do you mean by test. cycle? Like a normal test. booster like a pct or A-HD or an actual pro horomone like superdrol, halodrol?

    im not looking to use anabolics now; I still want a bit more experience at the gym to even see if my body is even fit for that type of stuff; but after maybe another year, ill maybe get onto something. Just gathering some knowledge as the time passes.
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    I meant on injected testosterone. With any of the other prohormones/designer supplements the results vary so much its really hard to gauge. Overall from what i've seen you are better off doing a cut then separately bulk, or cut then longer term clean slow bulk than trying to accomplish both, regardless of taking in hormones. Some people do have better success than others, but its a crapshot. Some end up making a 1lb fat loss with 2lb muscle gain in a month instead the choice of either 6lbs fat lost or 8lbs muscle gained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I meant on injected testosterone. With any of the other prohormones/designer supplements the results vary so much its really hard to gauge. Overall from what i've seen you are better off doing a cut then separately bulk, or cut then longer term clean slow bulk than trying to accomplish both, regardless of taking in hormones. Some people do have better success than others, but its a crapshot. Some end up making a 1lb fat loss with 2lb muscle gain in a month instead the choice of either 6lbs fat lost or 8lbs muscle gained.

    oh lmao. Well, I am focused now on a really slow clean bulk after I get rid of my fat; I am kind of restarting I guess you can say.


    The prhoromones I've been looking at has been halodrol or halotest-25. Ive heard people gained about 6lbs in 2 months with not much side effects; and its seems pretty legit since it has tons of reviews. lol. ever heard of them?
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    Save anabolics for later, don't worry about them for now
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