Want to hear from people who are actually doing it and how its working out for them. I know the science behind it from lean gains but want to know how good it is.
I don't use that approach now, but I was at my leanest ever when I did do it. My lifting sessions were in the evening, so I would work out fasted and eat a ton after my workout up to bedtime. The pro's were that it worked great for me and that I could basically eat whatever I wanted to during my window and it didn't seem to matter. I also don't have a big appetite normally, so going all day without food was no big deal. Green tea (warm, freshly steeped) helped a lot with this. Not sure if it was something in the tea or the fact that it was a warm drink, but that did and does pretty much kill my appetite.
The biggest con was that eating became a job. From about 8PM until 11PM, 7 days a week, my job was to eat. I was very strict with it, so dinner out with the family was very weird, I'd just sit there while everyone else ate.
The other downside was having all those calories jammed into my stomach at once. I think I know how an anaconda feels after swallowing a large animal whole.
IMO, it's extremely effective as long as you keep in mind what (and how much) you eat during your feeding window counts. I've never been super strict with it, if I'm out with my girlfriend and we have a late dinner that's cool or if I need to break the fast early for some reason that works as well. I don't think cutting it off at 15 hours 30 minutes instead of 16 matters a whole hill of beans.
The "scariest" part is of course the hunger. Honestly it isn't that bad. You do have to get used to it the first week if you're used to eating upon rising. I've always went 8 p.m. to 12 a.m. as my window, and this has never been too bad for me. Lunch just becomes my first meal. I still have bacon and eggs for lunch just like I would often with breakfast. I don't feel the need to rush and stuff my face per meal. You've got 8 hours to eat and get your calories in. It seems like a little but it's not. I get around 700 calories per meal and then snack, have protein shakes, whatever.
Obviously it on it's own doesn't do it. You can't fast for 16 hours and then eat crap for 8 and expect to have good results. But I do think something is a bit magical about the fasting part. I certainly think Leangains plus proper diet trumps proper diet no Leangains. Let me know if you have any more specific questions. It's certainly worth a shot, it isn't like you have to do it if you hate it. But most people that start Leangains stay on it and I think that's saying something. A lot of people on here are Leangains lifers.
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how has your body transformed?Originally Posted by Geoforce
I know your question wasn't directed at me, but when I did IF I dropped down to 7% bf - and yes it was a real 7%, not the normal internet message board 7%. I had veins everywhere, even in my abs.
I actually jumped back onto IF yesterday (with some tweaks for my early AM lifting sessions) as I'm at 15% bf right now. In my opinion and based on personal experience, the diet is very flexible - you can cut fat, bulk or maintain...I think too often IF is associated with a cutting program or diet but it's really not.
One of the best and most noticeable aspects of the diet is the energy you get during the fast. The energy, focus and mental clarity that I get during the fasting period is really fantastic and I've not been able to replicate it with anything else.
I find that it's best to have a little planning when you break the fast. If I eat food that causes a big insulin spike (say a whey protein shake by itself), I feel tired and lethargic for the next hour or two. I try to break the fast with food that has protein/fat and some low GI carbs or veggies.
When I jumped back on IF, I was a little hungry in the morning since I'm used to a meal at that time. I cup of green tea knocked back the hunger until it was time to eat lunch.
Any pictures of you at 7%? You must of been pure solid muscleOriginally Posted by audix2359
How do you add cardio into it? Or is it not needed
I could dig around for pics, I think I have some at the beach with the kids but I've never really taken photos of myself to compare. I should, but I don't. And yes, I was very, very lean.
Back then, I wasn't lifting that heavy or that often really - I did a lot of HIIT and steady state cardio and mixed in light weighlifting, so I was lean and pretty muscular but not real big. I'm still not huge, but I've gained a lot since then - I'm around 180 ATM. When I was on IF before, I was also a vegetarian. At some point, I decided to start lifting heavy and consistently and then decided to get into powerlifting. Once I started powerlifting, I stopped being a vegetarian - the two were not compatible for me.
Now I lift 4x a week and do some steady state cardio for 20-30 minutes in the morning on non-lifting days - that's what I was doing before I re-started IF and I'll continue with that.
How lone did it take for u to start seeing results? Would u say its harder for women to lose fat this way due to hormones etc?Originally Posted by audix2359
I started IF about two weeks ago
I think in general it's probably more difficult for women to lose weight.
actually though, you can lean out some with calories over maintenance on IF. there is a narrow band of calories. the more interesting part that I still haven't quite figured out is how a number of the studies show that you can go significantly over maintenance on IF and not gain fat.
I guess i gta be patient lol not sure if im doing it right. I eat wholegrain rice, shouldnt i be?
i tried leangains and just couldnt curb the hunger even with coffee and aminos, now i do a variant of leangains where i have a post shake and continue to fast till my first meal....works like a champ and with NO cardio im leaning up nicely (and a few supps)
How long do u fast for? What are ur other meals like?Originally Posted by hvactech
So during my feeding window i shud keep carbs minimal?Originally Posted by EasyEJL
my fasts are 16-17 hours and I eat whatever I feel like during my eat time. just make sure I get at least 175g of solid food protein
Link to study?Originally Posted by EasyEJL
I lost 26 pounds using leangains in about 10 weeks. Once you get past the first two weeks your body adjusts and you don't really get hunger pains. I wasn't really strict dieting either as I had a few life situations going on at the time but I was always about 500 cal deficit with F all carbs with a refeed once a week.
I was doing the 16 hour fast with an 8 hour feeding window. Ill definitely use leangains for cutting in the future.