POSSIBLY the most effective weight loss stack ever!!? (Besides DNP)

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    POSSIBLY the most effective weight loss stack ever!!? (Besides DNP)


    So I was just trying to put together the most effective weight loss stack I could fathom and I came up with the following:

    1. EC- tried and true, great for energy, nutrient partitioning, and appetite suppression
    2. Alpha-Yohimbine- all the benefits of targeting stubborn fat without the negative stimulatory aspects of normal yohimbine
    3. Acetyl L-Carnitine- helps the free fatty acids be transported into the mitochondria to be utilized for energy
    4. TTA (tetradecylthioacetic acid)- increased mitochondrial proliferation, increased catabolism of fatty acids, antiadiposity, improvement in insulin sensitivity, antioxidant properties, reduced proliferation and induction of apoptosis in rapidly proliferating cells, cell differentiation, and antiinflammatory action, basically body will be more likely to burn fats in both fed and un-fed states
    5. Alpha Lipoic Acid or Slin Sane- used pre-workout to help promote storage of carbs into muscles and not fat
    6. Green Tea Extract- great anti-oxidant benefits and increased nor-epinephrine

    Now along with this, a diet high in EFAs, quality fats, quality protein, and a medium intake of carbs would seem most effective.

    While I know other supplements like Raspberry Ketones could be implemented, I was mostly trying to cover what I thought would make the biggest difference. Of course a multivitamin would be needed, as well as electrolytes to prevent possible cramping.

    I just wanted to see what everyone thinks? Comments greatly appreciated, or suggestions.

    If you wanted to go into "hardcore mode," I guess you could even implement this plan with T3 and Clen, cycling the EC with Clen every two weeks and running the T3 for 4-6 weeks. Since Alpha-Yohimbine doesnt have the negative stim effects, I would probably do ECY two weeks on, two weeks off using clen on off weeks, or without clen I would just do EC for two weeks then the Alpha-Yohimbine the next two.

    As far as dosing, I would dose EC (25mg E and 200 C) 3x per day, Alpha Yohimbine at 10mg 3x per day, Acetyl L-Carnitine at 2-3g per day, TTA at 2g per day, Alpha Lipoic Acid at 500mg pre and post workout (make sure if using ALA not to also use Slin Sane as it could drive blood glucose levels too low), and Green Tea Extract at 0.5-1.5g per day depending on ECGC content.

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    Using fat as source of energy not healthy right?
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    Have you tried this yet and was it effective? I was wondering if you could do this teamed with a low carb diet. I think a low carb diet along with the EC is a little bit risk for dehydration but as long as you keep water intake high then it should be fine right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirty321 View Post
    Have you tried this yet and was it effective? I was wondering if you could do this teamed with a low carb diet. I think a low carb diet along with the EC is a little bit risk for dehydration but as long as you keep water intake high then it should be fine right?
    I haven't started the stack yet because I am currently doing a log for N2-Burn, but after I finish, I most certainly will give it a shot (but probably without the T3 and clen). I dont see any reason why it wouldnt work though, seems to hit the majority of crucial fat burning areas.
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    Pretty much exactly what I was running up until this week:
    EC 20mg/200mg 3 x day
    HEAT(Alpha yo) 3 x day
    DCP 7 caps day(2/2/2/1 prebed)

    Very effective.

    This week I switched to:
    Helios(40mcg clen/5.4mg yo) x 1ml pre-workout/cardio
    Oral Clen x 60mcg
    DCP 7 caps a day
    HEAT x 3

    I will run this for 3 weeks, with 1mg keto on week 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesthetic View Post
    Using fat as source of energy not healthy right?
    Not true, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesthetic View Post
    Using fat as source of energy not healthy right?
    Why not? as a vital part of the body's chemistry, cholesterol is used to produce the steroid hormones required for normal development and functioning.
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    I don't know how anyone could say using fat as a source of energy is just plain not healthy. Fat is the highest calorie per gram of the 3 basic nutrients which I suppose one could attribute to being the wost one calorie restricting wise. I think overall the one that does any damage would be protein because (correct me if im wrong) excessive protein intake speeds up aging and also can cause small but still consistent kidney damage that comes from the buildup of excess ketones. The basic rule is that all of the should be balanced with protein going about 30% of your daily intake but fat being a higher calorie per gram you would do a 60/40 split with carbs being the 60. I guess what it all comes down to anyway is just moderation in general but all these nutrients are things that the human body needs in one way or another in order to perform healthy bodily function.
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    hello wondering if i can get a pm as to where people are getting helios from
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