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  1.  07-13-2011  09:11 AM
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    Eating Before Cardio


    Is it better to eat or not to eat before doing cardio in the morning? Heard that you should not and then I heard you should because it starts up the metabolism. Just want to know what's best for losing weight faster.



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    Originally Posted by mozwilde View Post
    Is it better to eat or not to eat before doing cardio in the morning? Heard that you should not and then I heard you should because it starts up the metabolism. Just want to know what's best for losing weight faster.
    You're going to hear different schools of thought on this, just like you already stated. There's not a clear-cut answer.

    I've been a fan of taking some BCAAs and doing 20-30 minutes of fasted cardio upon rising, but it was also low intensity stuff.

    Layne Norton has produced or linked multiple articles/studies showing that you burn more when eating normal meals placed around the cardio just as you would a traditional weight-training workout.

    The bottom line is there will never be a "this is right and that is wrong" on this subject. Do what you prefer
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    Im a fan of 20 mins SSCV - fasted.

    This has worked well for me in the past, and has also worked for alot of people I know.

    But it comes down to personal preference. Find what works best for you, as everyone is different and will react differently to each method.
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    Weightloss is a function of caloric expenditure vs. caloric intake. Eating before exercise has many benefits, you can delay the onset of fatigue (substrate depletion). Don't get caught up in the intensities.

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    Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    You're going to hear different schools of thought on this, just like you already stated. There's not a clear-cut answer.

    I've been a fan of taking some BCAAs and doing 20-30 minutes of fasted cardio upon rising, but it was also low intensity stuff.

    Layne Norton has produced or linked multiple articles/studies showing that you burn more when eating normal meals placed around the cardio just as you would a traditional weight-training workout.

    The bottom line is there will never be a "this is right and that is wrong" on this subject. Do what you prefer
    bullseye. Personally I do low intensity fasted in the morning and sip BCAA's while doing it.

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    Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    bullseye. Personally I do low intensity fasted in the morning and sip BCAA's while doing it.
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    if you eat before cardio you will burn close to zero fat.

    eating then cardio will put you in a deficit which will indirectly burn fat, but won't be nearly as effective.
    For me, the action IS the juice.

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    A lot of it depends on intensity for me. I'm a big fan of fasted cardio when it's steady state and low intensity. If you're going to perform a bunch of high intensity cardio work I wouldn't want to do that first thing in the morning while completely fasted.

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    Originally Posted by mozwilde View Post
    Is it better to eat or not to eat before doing cardio in the morning? Heard that you should not and then I heard you should because it starts up the metabolism. Just want to know what's best for losing weight faster.
    Studies have shown that results are no different re fat loss if cardio is fasted or unfasted, so it really depends on the individual and their personal preferences in what state they train. I have personally trained both ways throughout the years, but feel so much better when I train fasted, and I do ALL my training fasted, with no detrimental effect on my performance.

    Plus, WEIGHT loss is easy - all you have to do is primarily manipulate water and carbohydrate intake, so don't concentrate on SCALE WEIGHT because it is IRrelevant, but focus on FAT loss, since BODY COMPOSITION is what is important.

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    I forget all the details but MrKleen found a study that showed ~10-15 grams of protein about 30 minutes prior to cardio enhanced fat loss/burning. If you are doing it fasted in the AM, that may not be feasible but in that case I say throw down 10 grams of BCAAs and you will get near the same benefit. Rosie knows her stuff though.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

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    You can eat but make sure you give your stomach some time to digest the food before working out.
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    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I forget all the details but MrKleen found a study that showed ~10-15 grams of protein about 30 minutes prior to cardio enhanced fat loss/burning. If you are doing it fasted in the AM, that may not be feasible but in that case I say throw down 10 grams of BCAAs and you will get near the same benefit. Rosie knows her stuff though.
    I haven't read that study, but I'm going to speculate that it's probably due to a low amount of carbohydrate (if any) and the intensity DURING exercise. However, I bet RQ was not measured during 24 hours of recovery. Net oxidation of fatty acids will be the same.

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    Whatever you feel best about, if you feel better fasted then stick with it..however if not go back to eating before.

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    Thanks for all the advice. I've been doing the fasted cardio and feel good. So I'll see how that goes.

  14.  07-19-2011  03:07 AM
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    It is always good to eat before the exercises. That is what my trainer told me and ask me to do.
    Dimitri

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    Originally Posted by Dimitri View Post
    It is always good to eat before the exercises. That is what my trainer told me and ask me to do.
    Just like any trainer, that advice is only partially correct. I seriously question if any of them know their a** from a hole in the ground.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

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    I can't prefer to eat before the cardio and eat any thing after the cardio...
    It is better one to have the much energy after the swear comes out from your body and fulfill the
    body nutrition's and requirements...
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    As someone who cycles for cardio i never eat before or i throw up after, but when i dont cycle and do fasted cardio on the stairmaster, i feel like i get more out of it.

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    Originally Posted by tamili View Post
    I can't prefer to eat before the cardio and eat any thing after the cardio...
    It is better one to have the much energy after the swear comes out from your body and fulfill the
    body nutrition's and requirements...
    What ?!?

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    FACTs :

    food signals insulin

    insulin inhibits HSL and cAMP.

    HSL + cAMP signal fatloss.
    For me, the action IS the juice.

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    Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    FACTs :

    food signals insulin

    insulin inhibits HSL and cAMP.

    HSL + cAMP signal fatloss.
    Not everyone is concerned with fatloss. Adrenergic innervation via catecholamine release/outflow increases cAMP-dependent protein kinase activity, decreases plasma insulin concentration, and initiates fatty acid mobilization. This happens from the onset of exercise and increases with intensity and duration. Under normal physiological conditions in healthy individuals, insulin should be at its basal level within an hour of eating prior to exercise.

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