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    OEP/Alpha T2/7-KETO


    I've been taking 7-KETO for about a week, and started my OEP and Alpha T-2 stack this morning.

    I definitely FEEL it effecting me -- I feel a little warm, slightly sweaty actually, and I can feel that my heart rate has definitely gone up.

    I was expecting all of that, but the weird thing is that I've been ravenously hungry all day! I've been eating normally, but I'm just STARVING! I don't know if that's a coincidence or what, but I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I assumed the OEP would be suppressive of the appetite.

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    Hmmmm I wonder of the ramped-up thyroid effects are causing this!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Hmmmm I wonder of the ramped-up thyroid effects are causing this!?
    No idea! I mean I probably should have waiting until tomorrow to post something, because I really only started the stack today and it might well be a coincidence.

    I do have to say though that the stim effect in the OEP is no joke. I definitely feel it. Although with other stims in the past I've built up a tolerance pretty quickly, so we'll see what happens with this one.
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    Im sure it's agreat product but Thyroid-type products make me eat non-stop. Keep us posted and good luck.
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    7-keto makes me hungry as hell,and i would save it and run it when you are done with the Alpha T-2 as a Thyroid pct,even thou you don't need it with that.I think it would be pointless to run it at the same time,when you can run it after and reap more from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyjuice View Post
    7-keto makes me hungry as hell,and i would save it and run it when you are done with the Alpha T-2 as a Thyroid pct,even thou you don't need it with that.I think it would be pointless to run it at the same time,when you can run it after and reap more from it.
    Really? I thought it would make a good stack, but I haven't researched it except to read the original 7-KETO fat loss study.

    As to my appetite, I have noticed that I'm definitely eating less. I can go long stretches at work now without getting hungry. I'm still only taking 1 of each pill in the AM and 1 of each in the afternoon. OEP and AT-2 both say you can go up to 3, but so far that seems like overkill to me.

    I've dropped about 3 pounds so far -- hopefully most of that is fat!

    Oh, I'm also using Dermatherm topical from Primordial Performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    Really? I thought it would make a good stack, but I haven't researched it except to read the original 7-KETO fat loss study.

    As to my appetite, I have noticed that I'm definitely eating less. I can go long stretches at work now without getting hungry. I'm still only taking 1 of each pill in the AM and 1 of each in the afternoon. OEP and AT-2 both say you can go up to 3, but so far that seems like overkill to me.

    I've dropped about 3 pounds so far -- hopefully most of that is fat!

    Oh, I'm also using Dermatherm topical from Primordial Performance.
    oep is good but only as good as your diet. alpha t-2 i never tried, but Kelp is a wonderful thyroid supp. If your appetite increases that can be a good thing as you are burning calories by thermogenics.
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    Nice! Cant wait to see how you liked it 4 weeks from now
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyjuice View Post
    7-keto makes me hungry as hell,and i would save it and run it when you are done with the Alpha T-2 as a Thyroid pct,even thou you don't need it with that.I think it would be pointless to run it at the same time,when you can run it after and reap more from it.
    Agreed, run 7-keto after AT2 for PCT
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    "appetite increases" yeah with Alpha-T2 and OEP is for sure!!!!! and works wonders
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    Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Agreed, run 7-keto after AT2 for PCT
    OK, I'll save it for afterwards then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Nice! Cant wait to see how you liked it 4 weeks from now
    Just a question on Alpha T2: since methyl-synephrine works on the beta-3-adrenergic receptor, does it need to be cycled or should Benedryl be added the way you need to do for Clen or ECA stacks? I know Clen hits the beta-2 receptor, not the beta-3, but I thought that Alpha T2 might down regulate the receptor in the same way that Clen and ephedrine do.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    Just a question on Alpha T2: since methyl-synephrine works on the beta-3-adrenergic receptor, does it need to be cycled or should Benedryl be added the way you need to do for Clen or ECA stacks? I know Clen hits the beta-2 receptor, not the beta-3, but I thought that Alpha T2 might down regulate the receptor in the same way that Clen and ephedrine do.

    Thanks!
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    Sorry guys didnt see those posts!

    Receptor downregulation is a very very complex thing to understand and is often just "assumed for" for different receptors (androgen, beta, alpha, etc).

    Beta-2 receptor downregulation is very well documented, as well as noticed in the real world.

    Beta-3 receptor downregulation is not really noted in any studies, and I even found a few studies where beta-2 was downregulated and beta-3 was not.

    We tested users in taking JUST methyl-syn before we released the product, and they definitely felt it in full throttle for all 8 weeks that they took it with no adverse effects as the cycle progressed, or after ending the cycle.

    With all of that being said, I do not feel it is necessary to take benadryl, and I think 8 weeks should be your max "on" time of methyl-syn before cycling off
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Sorry guys didnt see those posts!

    Receptor downregulation is a very very complex thing to understand and is often just "assumed for" for different receptors (androgen, beta, alpha, etc).

    Beta-2 receptor downregulation is very well documented, as well as noticed in the real world.

    Beta-3 receptor downregulation is not really noted in any studies, and I even found a few studies where beta-2 was downregulated and beta-3 was not.

    We tested users in taking JUST methyl-syn before we released the product, and they definitely felt it in full throttle for all 8 weeks that they took it with no adverse effects as the cycle progressed, or after ending the cycle.

    With all of that being said, I do not feel it is necessary to take benadryl, and I think 8 weeks should be your max "on" time of methyl-syn before cycling off
    Thanks for the response!

    So I'll keep it to 8 week max (as it says on the bottle) and Benadryl isn't necessary. How much "off" time is required before running it again?
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    I was thinking of adding DAA to this stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    Thanks for the response!

    So I'll keep it to 8 week max (as it says on the bottle) and Benadryl isn't necessary. How much "off" time is required before running it again?
    I would get at least 4 weeks. If youre on for 8, maybe 6 weeks off
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