No need to take TT-33 with Adipoxil. There's basically a bottle of TT-33 in Adipoxil, but like you basically said, it has extra stims and thermogenic ingredients added. It does stack great with Lean Xtreme though. Start low and work your way up to 4 caps a day. You can dose lower if you feel that's working well for you. You won't feel much because it's not a stim so look for the results and you will see the changes. I would split the doses up and time it like this: In the AM on an empty stomach and again at night before bed on a empty stomach. You don't need any pct for it but if you really wanted to, you could use the 7-keto dhea or even just some tyrosine.