CLEN + T3 + N.O. Shotgunv3?
- 10-21-2009, 03:41 PM
CLEN + T3 + N.O. Shotgunv3?
Hi I was searching for this combination for a long time, but couldn't find an answer.
You guys think it's a good idea to take CLEN + T3 + N.O. Shotgunv3? My goal is to lose bodyfat, and sustain muscle mass. I know people run this with AAS, but you guys think it's a good idea running with creatine? The reason for my question is that I'm afraid there might be ingredients in N.O. Shotgun v3 that may counteract with clen or t3.
Please give me your opinions, Thanks in advance!
INGREDIENTS in N.O. Shotgun v3
L-Leucine, L-Valine, L-Isoleucine, L-Arginine, L-Valine Ethyl Ester, L-2-Aminopentanoic Acid (L-nor-Valine), L-Alanyl Glutamine, L-Arginine Ethyl Ester di-HCl, L-IsoleucineEthyl Ester HCl, L-Leucine Ethyl Ester HCl
Proprietary Muscle Volumizing, NO2, Insulinotrophic Matrix 10055 mg **
CEX (Creatine Ethyl Ester HCl)
Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Gamma-Butyrobetaine Ethyl Ester
MTB Pump (Magnesium Tanshinoate B)
Bis Picolinato Oxo Vanadium (BPOV)
Power, Speed, Strength and Endurance Matrix
Beta-Alanine/Beta-Alanine Ethyl Ester HCl
Guanidinopropionic Acid (GPA)
KIC (Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium)
Vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxine HCl)~250%
Creatine Magnesium Chelate
Redline Energy and Meltdown Fat Burning Technology 377 mg **
Folate (as Folic Acid)~100%
- 10-22-2009, 01:08 PM
- 10-22-2009, 04:25 PM
I think that if you don't know enough about clen and/or T3 to answer this question for yourself, that you have no business taking clen or T3. Those are serious substances man, either one more than able to mess you up severely if not used properly.
10-22-2009, 04:26 PM
10-22-2009, 06:52 PM
it isnt that complicated.
start out with a low dose like 10-25mcg for like a week. then go to 35 for a few days, then 50mcg.
stay for a couple weeks at 50, then ramp back down the same way you ramped up.
at 50mcg you shouldnt have any shutdown worries - even after 2 months of use.
if you want , you could run a pct alongside of ramping down. this could include, but not limited to: iodine, forskolin, and l tyrosine - since these things increase thyroid function.
edit: to answer the question of whether you should use no shotgun with oral clen and t3, i would say no. clen will make your heart rate go up, and so will t3. i wouldnt mix another thing that will amp you up into the mix.
if you want a boost before your workouts, try using 12.5mg of ephedrine with some caffeine, bulk beta alanine and some aakg. it might not be as hardcore on your heart rate this route.
For me, the action IS the juice.
10-25-2009, 04:11 PM
10-26-2009, 11:09 AM
Running T3 is something that should be viewed as "hardcore" use. Clen, although not nearly as potent, also carries this kind of label. For the most part, there really is no use for T3 for just aesthetic purposes. Also, 50mcg is a very low-dose and I really don't think that much benefit will some from it; it will help out with nutrient repartitioning, but it will not turn you into a fat-burning machine.
Think of it this way, Epi is generally dosed at 30mg; you can run it less, but you will not see the true effects of it since the dose is lower. Obviously, the sides will be lessened, but the "benefits" are also lessened.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
11-30-2009, 12:11 PM
Ive run T3 while taking Shotgun - I wouldnt go as high on T3 with shotghun as I would if I werent taking shotgun.
Logic behind it is that shotgun has stims in it.
In regard to the Clen: the PEA + Hordenine combo in SGv3 for example has Beta Adrenergic properties- which is what Clen does. However, I dont think the Redline matrix would be synergistic with Clen. - IMO: Redline + Clen is a bad idea.
12-02-2009, 12:48 AM
NO Synthesize is basically the same product as Shotgun without the caffeine. Check that out, otherwise you might be overstimulated.
12-03-2009, 12:01 AM
Holy wowzerz, is it ok to take a garbage-pail stim with Clen, with T3? Would you put rocket fuel in your alcohol fueled motor that was designed for regular unleaded?
12-03-2009, 09:35 AM
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