CANT get ionto keto

[justreading]

I dont think I should be doing keto anyway but I really CANT get into it!

AM of day 4.

200f, 150-190p and low/30 cabs max and I dont even have trace on my first pee

I even took 200mg dnp 2 days in a row to burn off my glycogen and am on 25mcg t3 ED

What the hell!

[EasyEJL]

you know that if you are in keto, and burning all the spare ketones ie at caloric deficit that there would be no ketones urinated out right?

[tyler4]

Ketostix are worthless in many people's eyes. Don't place a lot of faith in them.

If you are under 30g CHO for 72 hours, you will be in Ketosis (almost always).

[justreading]

Keto is starting to seem pointless. my muscles are WASTING and i cant even get it right

I ordered some insulin because it puts you into keto in a couple hours if you know what you are doing

[CrazyChemist]

Keto is starting to seem pointless. my muscles are WASTING and i cant even get it right

I ordered some insulin because it puts you into keto in a couple hours if you know what you are doing

Dude... be so careful with insulin. It can put you into keto in a few hours and it can also put you into a coma or death in a few hours. DNP and diet are extreme enough.

[tyler4]

+1 Insulin is NOT a good idea. No offense, but it doesn't sound like you are experienced enough for insulin. Like CrazyChemist said, you can go into coma or even die from misuse.

[G Force]

+1 Insulin is NOT a good idea. No offense, but it doesn't sound like you are experienced enough for insulin. Like CrazyChemist said, you can go into coma or even die from misuse.

He's experienced enough, believe me. He's just desperate (to get into keto). I'll get those metformin hcl tabs for you, just hang for a day or two. A couple grams of that and you'll be deep in ketosis.

[EasyEJL]

or anavar, oddly enough

[justreading]

+1 Insulin is NOT a good idea. No offense, but it doesn't sound like you are experienced enough for insulin. Like CrazyChemist said, you can go into coma or even die from misuse.

I am... ive done it for thios purpose

[youngandfree]

I just don't get it.
Having a breakdown - Can I gain back any muscle on CKD

[EasyEJL]

someone needs a bigger serving of Patienceabol and maybe some mellowdrol

[justreading]

someone needs a bigger serving of Patienceabol and maybe some mellowdrol

Yeah man loose all the muscle you gained on a cycle and lose it in less than a week and then tell me i need to be patient...

I dont think anyone gets HOW bad it got, I lost everything in a couple days

[EasyEJL]

then it wasn't muscle gains, it was just glycogen.

[CrazyChemist]

+1 Insulin is NOT a good idea. No offense, but it doesn't sound like you are experienced enough for insulin. Like CrazyChemist said, you can go into coma or even die from misuse.

Yeah i didn't mean to imply you weren't experienced. I'm sure if anyone knows what they're doing it is you. I've jsut heard horror stories about insulin being used for keto.

[justreading]

Yeah i didn't mean to imply you weren't experienced. I'm sure if anyone knows what they're doing it is you. I've jsut heard horror stories about insulin being used for keto.

Combo of a few things - I am very insulin insensative, my personal window to mess up is very large. I can used 8-10 IU of slin with 20g of carbs and be fine. the proper way to use it for keto is 2iu every 1-2 hours till you hit keto. I have used 4 in one shot and a simple whey shake is more than enough for anything under 6iu for me

It just really sucks cause I cant seem to show up in keto right now and dont have slin yet

[benj851]

not to hijack the thread but what is metformin hcl, and where can I get some?

[justreading]

not to hijack the thread but what is metformin hcl, and where can I get some?

Honestly - its not legal and it kinda sucks. He is a freind trying to help me from having a breakdown in anyway he can, its not a wonder drug in any way

[bpmartyr]

then it wasn't muscle gains, it was just glycogen.

Agreed.

I look much smaller on Keto diets but balloon right back on carb day.

To OP: your not using Keto sticks to determine whether you are in ketosis or not are you?

[CrazyChemist]

someone needs a bigger serving of Patienceabol and maybe some mellowdrol

can you stack that with chilloutanon?

[justreading]

Agreed.

I look much smaller on Keto diets but balloon right back on carb day.

To OP: your not using Keto sticks to determine whether you are in ketosis or not are you?

I was hoping the ketostickx would tell me yeah...

I went to the gym today and broke down. I am down like 8 pounds or more and cant take it.

I am having an all out pig out till my next workout tomorrow then eating clean before starting keto again next week