CANT get ionto keto
- 06-18-2009, 09:43 AM
- 06-18-2009, 09:53 AM
you know that if you are in keto, and burning all the spare ketones ie at caloric deficit that there would be no ketones urinated out right?
- 06-18-2009, 10:06 AM
Ketostix are worthless in many people's eyes. Don't place a lot of faith in them.
If you are under 30g CHO for 72 hours, you will be in Ketosis (almost always).
06-18-2009, 10:17 AM
Keto is starting to seem pointless. my muscles are WASTING and i cant even get it right
I ordered some insulin because it puts you into keto in a couple hours if you know what you are doing
06-18-2009, 10:21 AM
06-18-2009, 10:28 AM
+1 Insulin is NOT a good idea. No offense, but it doesn't sound like you are experienced enough for insulin. Like CrazyChemist said, you can go into coma or even die from misuse.
06-18-2009, 10:37 AM
06-18-2009, 10:38 AM
or anavar, oddly enough
06-18-2009, 11:13 AM
06-18-2009, 11:17 AM
06-18-2009, 11:18 AM
someone needs a bigger serving of Patienceabol and maybe some mellowdrol
06-18-2009, 11:36 AM
06-18-2009, 11:45 AM
then it wasn't muscle gains, it was just glycogen.
06-18-2009, 01:37 PM
06-18-2009, 02:06 PM
It just really sucks cause I cant seem to show up in keto right now and dont have slin yet
06-18-2009, 03:21 PM
not to hijack the thread but what is metformin hcl, and where can I get some?
06-18-2009, 07:15 PM
06-18-2009, 07:29 PM
06-18-2009, 07:58 PM
06-18-2009, 08:11 PM
06-18-2009, 08:13 PM
06-18-2009, 08:15 PM
Pigging out and then going back to keto is going to do the same thing. When you go into keto and drop carbs, do you not drop weight quicky the first few days?
06-18-2009, 08:18 PM
I can EASILY drop 8 lbs switching to no/low carb. As a matter of fact, I am down 5lbs right now after starting on no carbs yesterday morning. Glycogen is heavy.
The keto sticks are not a good indicator and will usually only show for me if calorie intake is really high. You may very well be in ketosis but your using all of the kotones as fuel and no excess is being flushed out with your urine.
Instead of "pigging out", try a "refeed". Eat plenty of carbs & protein but drop the fat to next to nothing for a day.
06-18-2009, 08:21 PM
06-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Most likely I will started a timed keto diet and use slin/dnp to control my blood sugar and glycogen... I've always shown ketosis before so I have to figure out how things changed
06-18-2009, 10:15 PM
I lost inches on keto like a mad wild animal. My weight stayed the same but I lost inches and that was great. Yes you're flat on keto, your muscles smaller, deal with it, push through the no carb. It's the best feeling to pump extra, extra hard on keto and say F&&&& you to it and get a great workout. The results at the end of your keto cycle, mine was a good month are well worth it.
06-18-2009, 10:36 PM
Im thinking pre-wo TKD
Some DNP early in the week
Some slin after one large carb meal a week...
06-18-2009, 10:41 PM
To all the newer members, the OP doesn't really want your advice. He thinks that more chemicals are the answer, even though he said one possible solution, "metformin", is not a wonder drug. Save yourself time and mental anguish and move on to another post.
06-18-2009, 10:48 PM
06-18-2009, 10:50 PM
06-18-2009, 11:04 PM
But you are all over the place. i understand there are timing protocols with certain substances. But you don't seem to be thinking and acting rationally. Under normal situations, and individual protocols, then fine. But you are freaking out, you think you are wasting away, which you aren't, and you are going to every single extreme to remedy a situation that isn't as bad as you make it out to be.
If you want to have people's input, and were hell bent on doing everything under the sun, you shouldn't have even started the post.
06-18-2009, 11:14 PM
06-18-2009, 11:21 PM
I just want you to see that it's not as bad as you are making it out to be. You are so emotional about it that you don't seem to be able to focus, and are going back and forth to different extremes.
06-18-2009, 11:27 PM
You werent here in person to see how extreme it got... it was frightening for a while
06-18-2009, 11:40 PM
And I can appreciate that. I've been an EMT, so I have seen what happens if your body gets out of whack. And I have seen when people are faced with something crazy that they can't or don't know how to control. The body's fight or flight response causes the adrenaline rush, which causes you to not be able to focus or think. With the limited info you gave, it didn't seem to require the desperate and extreme measures you were talking about. I still don't think it does, and it is your body, your life. I don't judge you for wanting to be the best, and supps obviously help you get there. I just know that no matter what your situation is you are dealing with, when you are in the emotional state you are/were in, you can't make a rational decision. I'm not saying you don't have plenty of experience using what you have by any means, you just can't process things correctly when your brain is going a hundred miles an hour and you are freaking out, that's all.
06-19-2009, 10:13 AM
06-19-2009, 10:15 AM
metformin is like anything else theres a place and time to use it.
06-19-2009, 10:30 AM
One quick thought. After using PGCL for a couple weeks, tolerating the side effect of crapping all the time, I am almost sure that it depeletes important bacteria in the GI tract.
That PGCL probably diminished your body's good bacteria, thus lowering your immune system, thus making you prone to infection of the 'SF', and lowering your body's ability to absorb certain nutrients. This would cause fluctuations in weight along with cloprostenol's effect on fluid distribution.
06-19-2009, 02:54 PM
06-19-2009, 04:51 PM
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