Upcoming Clen Cycle

[WeightShift]

I've run two clen cycles in the past and I'm about to start another one on the 15th. I wanted to go ahead and get this posted to get some feedback on my plan. I'll probably maintain a log here as well for those interested.

I'm going to run it for 3 weeks with the possibility of a 4th week depending on how stable the upregulation of beta-2s go. I'll be taking my temperature twice a day (am & pm) as well as checking my blood pressure.

Each dose will be split 2-3 times throughout the day. My tolerance has already been assessed from past runs.
Week 1 (Clen): 40/60/80/100/100/100/100
Week 2-4* (Clen): 100mcg
Week 3 (Benadryll): 75mg ED
Week 4: Assuming my temperature is still elevated: 100mcg
Week 1-4: 5g Taurine ED

I'll be downing around 2 gallons of water a day. I'll be eating 300 calories below maintenance but may scale up to maintenance depending on my energy levels. I'll be doing daily cardio with BCAAs and protein before and after to reduce catabolism as much as possible. Regardless of clen's pseudo-anabolism, lots of cardio and a hypocaloric diet will cause catabolism.

Pictures and stats will be posted closer to start. Constructive feedback is welcome.

[LuckyKid57]

Subbed. I am hoping to start my first clen cycle in the near future so I will be following this pretty closely and maybe PMing you some questions. Good luck with whatever your goals are!

[Schecterx]

I'm going to start clen on my 2nd week of PCT for hdrol. hope it goes well for u

[bigschmidt821]

i am gonna watch this for sure definatley something i wanna learn more about!

[Problem]

Why don't you do 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off (EC stack in this break), and then back 2 weeks on clen.

You prolly get better results doing it this way.

[WeightShift]

Appreciate the feedback, everyone.

I think the 2 on 2 off is a bit overrated. My temperature only degraded by 3/10ths during the third week of my last run which is till plenty high enough to increase BMR. If for some reason, I downregulate too harshly and I'm not getting an acceptable read on my temperature, I'll go ahead and stop for a week while dosing benadryll.

As well, running ECA during time off would be counter-productive. You presumably take time off to allow receptor turnover, but ephedrine acts on the same beta 2s as clen. Taking ephedrine would further saturate the beta 2 receptors (more widely so than clen by itself).

Goals: I just finished a short bulk to test my caloric threshold an also just got done dealing with a few unrelated medical issues. I put a bit of a spare tire on that I'm ready to get rid of. I'm in law school and taking finals right now, so I'll get started once they're over.

[Schecterx]

hurray for clen, lets see the results

[bigschmidt821]

what is generally the best dosage to use? also for support what is good?

[WeightShift]

what is generally the best dosage to use? also for support what is good?

Clen is basically a concentrated stimulant. Everybody's tolerance will be different. Some people have to use low doses (40-60mcg) while other can tolerate as high as 250mcg ED. The sweet spot seems to be from 90-110mcg ED (for me atleast).

Generally, if you've never done clen before, you want to do a taper on your first week starting as low as possible and then increasing until you begin to feel sides (shakes, nausea, restlessness, etc). Something like this initially: 20/40/60/etc.

Once you get to the dose you're comfortable with, just stick with it every day through the cycle. Then, the next time you do a clen cycle, you can just start at that dose instead of tapering.

There is a rule of thumb that some people use which says you should take half your body weight (in lbs). If you weigh 200, you should take 100mcg ED. However, its just that, a rule of thumb. Each person will be different.

[bigschmidt821]

now in should you taper done once you are ending the cycle?

[Hank Vangut]

also for support what is good?

taurine.

[WeightShift]

No need to taper off. There won't be any sufficient thyroid interference.

With that said, thanks Hank. I forgot to answer the second part!

Clen rapidly depletes taurine from your body which can result in cramping. Drink lots of water and take taurine to eliminate that. As well, you could throw in some Tyrosine to ensure your Thyroid remains at 100%. Clen slows the conversion of T4 to T3 but there really isn't any sort of significant shutdown going on. Further, the thyroid is extremely resilient contra to, say, the HPTA.

[Problem]

Appreciate the feedback, everyone.

I think the 2 on 2 off is a bit overrated. My temperature only degraded by 3/10ths during the third week of my last run which is till plenty high enough to increase BMR. If for some reason, I downregulate too harshly and I'm not getting an acceptable read on my temperature, I'll go ahead and stop for a week while dosing benadryll.

As well, running ECA during time off would be counter-productive. You presumably take time off to allow receptor turnover, but ephedrine acts on the same beta 2s as clen. Taking ephedrine would further saturate the beta 2 receptors (more widely so than clen by itself).

Goals: I just finished a short bulk to test my caloric threshold an also just got done dealing with a few unrelated medical issues. I put a bit of a spare tire on that I'm ready to get rid of. I'm in law school and taking finals right now, so I'll get started once they're over.

That's not 100% true.

Clen has a direct influence on the beta 2 recptores in muscle and fat tissue where in contrast, Ephedrine is a poor ligand for the beta 2 receptor. It is tottally indirect. I'm not going to go into how ECA work, but anyway.

Some people take ECA stack for months and still feel its effect. You can't do that with clen because it downregulate the beta recptores much much much FASTER than ECA stack.

Goodluck on this cycle bro !

[Schecterx]

i wanna fast forward and see how u are

[WeightShift]

Thanks Problem.

You're right that Ephedrine is slower to desensitize; however, if your receptors are already downgraded to the point of null-effect, then taking ephedrine will still perpetuate that standing desensitization.

[Omen]

This thread is full of awful advice.

Read the link below before you start your cycle.

Spiropent Clenbuterol Clen Anabolic Steroids Profile

[WeightShift]

This thread is full of awful advice.

Read the link below before you start your cycle.

Spiropent Clenbuterol Clen Anabolic Steroids Profile

Care to point out what parts of the advice are so awful?

I've done this in the past with great results and I've definitely done my research. If you'd like to counter a point here, please do as continued learning is part of the process.

[Omen]

Care to point out what parts of the advice are so awful?

I've done this in the past with great results and I've definitely done my research. If you'd like to counter a point here, please do as continued learning is part of the process.

My bad bro, if it worked, then you're doing something right.

Good luck!

[WeightShift]

My bad bro, if it worked, then you're doing something right.

Good luck!

I didn't mean to sound conceited or abrasive, man. If you have advice or see something blatantly wrong, I'd love to hear it. I posted here for that reason! Safety always comes first.

[Omen]

I didn't mean to sound conceited or abrasive, man. If you have advice or see something blatantly wrong, I'd love to hear it. I posted here for that reason! Safety always comes first.

You weren't conceited or abrasive.

I didn't bother posting a reply because you didn't bother reading the link or your reply woulda been different.

Read the link, you will have questions, post them and I will answer those questions.