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  1.  08-15-2008  06:15 PM
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    E.C.A exactly composition.....


    hi,can anibody post the extactly composition of each substance in e.c.? ephedrine-caffeine-aspirin....
    thanks a lot



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    Originally Posted by gambino View Post
    hi,can anibody post the extactly composition of each substance in e.c.? ephedrine-caffeine-aspirin....
    thanks a lot
    Do you mean the appropriate dosing ratios?
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    yeah, i dont know exactly mg of each substance in the correct composition

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    if you have to ask this kind of question on those compounds that have been around for sooo long you need to stop and do some research before taking them.

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    Originally Posted by gambino View Post
    yeah, i dont know exactly mg of each substance in the correct composition
    I don't do ECA, I do an ECY

    These are the standard doses

    Caffeine 200mg
    Ephedrine hcl 25 mg
    Yohimbine 10-12mg

    As far as the aspirin, I don't know. EC by itself is suffice, I believe the Aspirin has been omitted as an unnecessary component to the stack. Some people just run EC now a days, but I like the ECY combo, if you're relatively tolerant to Stims.
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    Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    if you have to ask this kind of question on those compounds that have been around for sooo long you need to stop and do some research before taking them.
    x2.

    But for the sake of using your one-time-free-pass with SilentBob:

    200mg c, 25mg e, 80mg a - from what I remember.
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    Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    x2.

    But for the sake of using your one-time-free-pass with SilentBob:
    200mg c, 25mg e, 80mg a - from what I remember.

    youre turning soft

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    Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    x2.

    But for the sake of using your one-time-free-pass with SilentBob:

    200mg c, 25mg e, 80mg a - from what I remember.
    Quick question for Bobbo. Are you a bodybuilding fan SilentBob? Like do you follow the sport?
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    i know ecy is a better choice than eca,but i am from spain and here the yohimbine is impossible to buy.....for this i opted for eca and just the only substance i dont know the correct ratio is aspirin......somo about aspirin ,pelase?

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    Originally Posted by gambino View Post
    i know ecy is a better choice than eca,but i am from spain and here the yohimbine is impossible to buy.....for this i opted for eca and just the only substance i dont know the correct ratio is aspirin......somo about aspirin ,pelase?
    80mg aspirin, according to SilentBob
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    Originally Posted by gambino View Post
    hi,can anibody post the extactly composition of each substance in e.c.? ephedrine-caffeine-aspirin....
    thanks a lot
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECA_stack

    Use baby aspirin 81 mg or so, not 325mg.

    Do some research or you might die.

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    I say just stick with the EC, the A to me is unnecessary.
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    Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    I say just stick with the EC, the A to me is unnecessary.
    Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by sustaining elevated cAMP levels.

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    Originally Posted by Omen View Post
    Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by sustaining elevated cAMP levels.
    I certainly understand the effects, dont get me wrong. However for me, I found my results were similar without the A. Plus the A acted as a blood thinner for me, and my nose would bleed like a stuck pig
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    I have an ECA question - people seem to take asthma meds for the Ephedrine, but they all contain guaifenesen (sp?) as well. Is it dangerous to be taking that for the kind of cycle length that is appropriate for ECA? Would pure Ephedrine be better?

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    Originally Posted by arizonanewbie View Post
    I have an ECA question - people seem to take asthma meds for the Ephedrine, but they all contain guaifenesen (sp?) as well. Is it dangerous to be taking that for the kind of cycle length that is appropriate for ECA? Would pure Ephedrine be better?
    http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000015A.htm

    The second link is long and is mainly about "The Truths and Myths of the use of Guaifenesin for Fibromyalgia
    or
    Guaifenesin: One Medicine, Several Effects"

    However, it has a lot of info about Guaifenesin too.

    http://web.mit.edu/london/www/guai.html

    UNFORTUNATELY, the ability to do research is not one of them....

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    Thank you for the links. I am not sure I understand the "ability to do research" comment. Is that a jab directed at me?

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    Originally Posted by arizonanewbie View Post
    Thank you for the links. I am not sure I understand the "ability to do research" comment. Is that a jab directed at me?
    Yes.

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    Originally Posted by gambino View Post
    i know ecy is a better choice than eca
    Worse choice, and used primarily by those who don’t understand what these supplements do physiologically. 'E' and 'Y' affect heart rate and blood pressure via different pathways. Taking them simultaneously is unwise, to say the least. If you were going to attempt such a protocol, EC vs. YC dosing should be separated by ~4 hours rather than taken together. 'A' has been shown to have limited utility to the ECA protocol except for the very overweight. Also, 'A' will (purportedly) increase water retention.

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    The aspirin does have it benefits but if you really wanted to you could substitute caffeine and aspirin with GTE. You get caffeine from the GTE as well as, GTE is a COMT inhibitor.
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