veggies dont count?
- 08-06-2008, 01:42 AM
veggies dont count?
y am i reading that green vegetables (broccoli according to my diet) dont count as a carb? i look up 1 cup cooked broccoli florets on a calorie counter and im reading 6 protien and 10 grams carbs...
so y wouldnt i count the veggies as part of my caloric intake? i know theyre full of fiber ....but still so is brown rice and oatmeal and i certainly count that....
how does every1 else look at these veggies in their diet?
- 08-06-2008, 07:46 AM
- 5'10" 235 lbs.
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Veggies take just about as much energy to digest as they provide for the body. I personally never would count Broccoli, spinach, lettuce etc in my daily count unless I was a few weeks out from a body building show. If you are on a Keto Diet though I would pay attention to the carbs, they may not kick you out of Keto but I would gradually increase my amounts to see where the fine line would be.Muscle Pharm Rep
08-06-2008, 11:55 AM
08-06-2008, 01:37 PM
EAT VEGETABLES FOR FIBER
Vegetables are high in fiber, one of the most widely neglected bodybuilding nutrients. Fiber is an indigestible carbohydrate that supplies no calories to your body, but it does provide bulk, which slows digestion. This has two essential benefits. First, carbohydrates enter your body more slowly. This helps hold your blood sugar levels in check, keeping energy levels up and "crashes" at bay. When blood sugar levels crash, they cause a spike in cortisol, a catabolic hormone that breaks down muscle tissue and makes recovery more difficult. Second, fiber helps support the absorption of amino acids. It keeps the walls of your intestines clean, making them more efficient. This in turn allows you to get more bang for your buck from your protein consumption.
That was from flex magazine but it is a good description of why vegtables like broccoli dont count, all of the carbs in it are fibre and fibre isnt digested by the body, its just eliminated, which is how it keeps you regular lol. No effect on insulin levels and the is not stored as energy.
08-06-2008, 09:33 PM
08-07-2008, 01:35 AM
better yet here Calories in Broccoli - The Calorie Counter
08-07-2008, 09:59 AM
The protein in vegtables isnt complete, so I pesonally dont count that in my daily totals.
08-07-2008, 02:08 PM
what do u think?
oh and i c youre a fan of fouad. beleive it or not i train at the same gym as him here in ontario canada. pretty nice guy and hes diceed as hell right now doing about 4 shows i think .
08-07-2008, 02:16 PM
Yeah Im a big fan of his, I follow Pro bodybuilding and since hes a fellow canadian I pull for him in every show. He has the pro bodybuilding weekly show this weekend in tampa, its a good field of competitors but I think he will do well, he looks as good as anyone in the pro's right now.
As for your question I think the difference would be so minimal that it wouldnt be too important to replace those macros with anything else. Your getting good results with your diet as it is, so I would go by the old addage of 'if it aint broke dont fix it' and leave your diet the way it is until you plateau or start losing alot of strength.
08-22-2010, 01:18 PM
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Vegetable carbohydrate is cellulose. It's our polysaccharide equivalent of glycogen but for plants. The difference is the oxygen linkages making a different orientation pattern in the glucose molecules where they only utilize beta 1-4 linkages in contrast to glycogen which uses alpha 1-4 linkages (other polysaccharides we call "carbs" are usually alpha 1-6).
We don't have an enzyme to metabolize beta linkages - therefore cellulose is NOT used by the human body. It just passes through. Remember all the nice benefits you hear about fiber? Yeah..
I don't count them and I don't know anyone who does. Some dietitians may argue it takes more calories to send them through the system than they give you. I use it as a buffer to bulk the size of my meals and prevent an insulin spike from protein/carbs.
Canadianguy: broccoli is revered highly in cutting because it does contain anti-oxidants but also contains lignans like nuts and legumes do - a phytochemical that stimulates adipose tissue to undergo lipolysis.
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