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    Originally Posted by ryane87 View Post

    I agree that high rep movements have their place. I just think with an explosive movement like Overhead Snatch, it is utilized totally wrong. You are also right about the sustainability. Imagine being in your 50's trying that crap. haha Hell, I have no qualms with the Overhead Squat, I have utilized them before. Good whole body lift that teaches you more coordination because it is self-correcting. You either can do it or you can't. haha
    I guess I just don't understand all the hate coming from people. I bet if the article was "Moves you should do" there wouldn't half the comments. I agree that Crossfit has its negatives, like it being pretty cultish and boastful, but it does have its positive aspects. More people are working out these days which is good especially in a country leading the world in obesity. Does it need to be monitored better so hacks aren't teaching people to hurt themselves? Hell yeah! Should it be dismissed as a legitimate workout system? No.

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    Xf in itself isn't a bad idea...its just the idea behind it has rubbed lots of people the wrong way.

    They take classic OLs, attach a new name to them, do a ridiculously high number of them in succession, slap a label on them like "crossfit" and you have literally a multi million dollar idea. Add a "professional competition" into the mix and its a business mans dream.

    I really do think crossfit has its role if done correctly, its just unfortunate how its come to be because now you have a bunch of Joe's straight out of highschool going to get "Xf coach creditionaled" or whatever the Hell its called and they don't teach proper form or mechanics and ppl get hurt or worse yet spread even more bad form and advice.

    That's the problem i have with crossfit. Its not necessarily the lifts, its the idea in general. Combine that with a bunch of fanboys and its a bbs or strength guys worst nightmare.

    But to each their own. I like the idea of HIT and HIIT but Xf isn't the way to go about doin.g it IMO. Can you benefit from a WOD? Sure! But if its not done properly in conjunction with a proper diet, schedule, or training/coaching- your asking for issues to arise
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    Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    Joe's straight out of highschool going to get "Xf coach creditionaled" or whatever the Hell its called and they don't teach proper form or mechanics and ppl get hurt or worse yet spread even more bad form and advice. Combine that with a bunch of fanboys and its a bbs or strength guys worst nightmare.
    It is the uneducated trainers. Its the idiotic fanboys. It's the trendiness of the whole thing. It's hipsters with fedoras and ray-bans all over again. It's the completely ridiculous elevation masks (wow how I despise those things and the people that wear them). It's the attitude these the mincy shytheads bring to my weightlifting gym. It's the space they take up and the equipment they attempt to control for extended periods of time...
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post

    It is the uneducated trainers. Its the idiotic fanboys. It's the trendiness of the whole thing. It's hipsters with fedoras and ray-bans all over again. It's the completely ridiculous elevation masks (wow how I despise those things and the people that wear them). It's the attitude these the mincy shytheads bring to my weightlifting gym. It's the space they take up and the equipment they attempt to control for extended periods of time...
    You leave raybans out of this!! Everybody lives raybans! Aviators are classic! Just like the mustache! They Will never be out of style! Lol

    But i get it! If you wanna do crossfit..go to a box and do ot. Don't go to a strength a BB gym to do it. Michael phelps doesn't do laps at a water park for a reason
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    Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post

    You leave raybans out of this!! Everybody lives raybans! Aviators are classic! Just like the mustache! They Will never be out of style! Lol

    But i get it! If you wanna do crossfit..go to a box and do ot. Don't go to a strength a BB gym to do it. Michael phelps doesn't do laps at a water park for a reason
    Lol. Yeah. I actually run/hike in a fedora! Wtf? And I own a pair of ray-bans (not the wayfarer version...)

    Yes. Stay in the XF gyms and I have absolutely no problem with it
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    To quote a a professional athlete RE the cross fit games (lol @ that) I forget who... "I'm not trying to be the best at exercise, I play real sports"
    That's from Eastbound and Down I believe...
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    Originally Posted by Othello1276 View Post
    I guess I just don't understand all the hate coming from people. I bet if the article was "Moves you should do" there wouldn't half the comments. I agree that Crossfit has its negatives, like it being pretty cultish and boastful, but it does have its positive aspects. More people are working out these days which is good especially in a country leading the world in obesity. Does it need to be monitored better so hacks aren't teaching people to hurt themselves? Hell yeah! Should it be dismissed as a legitimate workout system? No.
    I do not necessarily hate as much as I think it is an abomination of many different forms of exercise. I think sparingly, good cardio training. My problem are the dummies who firmly refuse to acknowledge that most of their CF heroes had a firm background in weight training. "Can I bulk doing CF?" No, you f*cking can't. You can put on SOME muscle. Believe me, I would not have put on 30+ lbs on my body with CF. Most of the exercises in and of themselves there is no problem with. HIIT is an outstanding way to get your cardio more efficiently. As for the hacks teaching, have you seen some of the PTs at big box gyms? haha
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    Originally Posted by Schyluer View Post
    I have trained at elite mma gyms, Strength and conditioning schools and clubs that work with NFL athletes, Strongman gyms, Power lifting, and Body building gyms. Crossfit athletes are by far the FUNCTIONALLY strongest athletes i have ever trained with. The reason people get hurt is poor coaching. Thats just like any Golds Gym. Any football S&C coach, any MMA trainer, etc. Some trainers are idiots. But there are some that are very good. Crossfit Football is by far my favorite exercise program i have ever done. Tons of Heavy HEAVY Olympic lifting with sled drags rope climbs etc, with a huge emphasis on explosion. Which of you in here could do a do a King Kong wod. Look that up. I dont know why so many men hate on Crossfit. As a man I like to lift heavy things, I like to build for performance, and I like to be a beast. The Crossfit gym i used to train at is one of the top in the nation and it made me a beast.
    Functionally strongest huh? Which of my two friends would I rather have help me move? My friend that deadlifts 500+ or the guy Overhead Snatching 135lbs for 20 reps? Who do you think develops more power? CF makes you good at CFitting, nothing more, nothing less. Oh yeah, improves your cardio vascular system at the expense of your back. Hey, I'll let my buddy that CF take all my light sh*t and run it back and forth to the moving truck for his WOD.
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    Crossfit.... Don't like it. Crossfit FOOTBALL on the other hand is much better. Problem with saying Crossfit to certain people is that it can mean different things.
    Never heard powerlifting or Oly weight lifting have that problem.
    All in all. What are your goals? Better Fran time? Ok, sure you do that. 600 squat? Powerlifting would be a "better" option. Be safe with what ever you choose, and be happy.

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    Originally Posted by ryane87 View Post
    Hey, I'll let my buddy that CF take all my light sh*t and run it back and forth to the moving truck for his WOD.
    Hahahahahahaha
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    As everyone has pretty much stated, it's a love/hate relationship. Is it a good conditioning tool? I think it is especially for someone like me who uses it for an athletic training purpose.

    These movements are an awesome set because they're all full body lifts. Discovering the active shoulder in the overhead squat is a great feeling. Kettle bell swings are great with a proper hip thrust and work the lower back well. A lot of OLY lifts are overlooked in the strength gym, but I think a lot of that has to do with "globogym rules" where they forbid bumpers or weight dropping because average Joe and Sally look down upon the grunting "Lunk"
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post

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    Dumb indeed. Trust me the gentlemen you speak of did not get "big" performing "crossfit" exercises. They did so the old school way, then transitioned.

    Please just stop with your venomous and uninformed comments

    Btw crossfit is just a hodgepodge of traditional exercises mixed together. Period...
    Idk what your qualifications are and how educated/experienced you truly are in the sport of bodybuilding, but by your proof of being closed minded, I'm guessing not more than I. Read any articles or watch any documentary of the great bodybuilders. Kai Greene, Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, and Dorian Yates all supplement different dynamic movements into their workouts. Some do very high reps, and off the top of my head I can remember Jay Cutler saying he supplemented Kettle Bells into his workouts ( that thing many have dissed on this thread). However, the key word is supplement. I agree crossfit alone does not get you bigger ( for bodybuilding) and stronger ( for strongman comps). What I argue is if you are saying crossfit sucks and has no purpose in your workouts, I'd say you're missing out. You have to switch it up.
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    Originally Posted by cloyd View Post
    Idk what your qualifications are and how educated/experienced you truly are in the sport of bodybuilding, but by your proof of being closed minded, I'm guessing not more than I. Read any articles or watch any documentary of the great bodybuilders. Kai Greene, Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, and Dorian Yates all supplement different dynamic movements into their workouts. Some do very high reps, and off the top of my head I can remember Jay Cutler saying he supplemented Kettle Bells into his workouts ( that thing many have dissed on this thread). However, the key word is supplement. I agree crossfit alone does not get you bigger ( for bodybuilding) and stronger ( for strongman comps). What I argue is if you are saying crossfit sucks and has no purpose in your workouts, I'd say you're missing out. You have to switch it up.
    My qualifications include being an athlete most of my life since the age of lets say 8 yrs old. I am also a cpt and close to finishing my bs in nutrition and dietetics. I have incorporated an entire cornucopia of exercises and workouts in the 12 years or so that I have been lifting weights. The dynamic movements you speak of have been in my training programs off and on throughout those 12 years. I have tried much, but there is always a new exercise or training program to try and I am very open to them all. Crossfit on the other hand is a marketing scheme that has done well, nothing more. It is a trendy fitness program and has done well but I personally could care less for it. When I think of crossfit I imagine it as akin to Phoenix AZ and the yoga scene out there; everyone is a follower, not independent thinkers or a leader. While I do have do give xfit props for getting people off the couch (as one of my lessons in training is the best type of exercise is the one you will do), I do not buy into the scene. Tabata interval training is much more beneficial in my humble opinion.

    But while we're at it, your comments about Celorza or EatMoar, or whoever you were talking shyt to were completely uncalled for. You simply cannot come onto this forum with no reputation at all and call out respected members and think you will not be attacked in kind. Unless you are a guru of well respected member of some athletic organization somewhere you have no clout and no leg to stand on...

    I also have serious qualms about the teenagers and early 20 somethings I see at my gym nowadays wearing elevation masks and throwing weights around in a manner that will surely land them laid up in bed for days. Making a ton of ridiculous noise. Taking up multiple areas at a time. Drinking Monsters and Red Bulls during workouts. Its all flashiness nowadays. No real sense of the basics involved in fitness or nutrition...
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post

    My qualifications include being an athlete most of my life since the age of lets say 8 yrs old. I am also a cpt and close to finishing my bs in nutrition and dietetics. I have incorporated an entire cornucopia of exercises and workouts in the 12 years or so that I have been lifting weights. The dynamic movements you speak of have been in my training programs off and on throughout those 12 years. I have tried much, but there is always a new exercise or training program to try and I am very open to them all. Crossfit on the other hand is a marketing scheme that has done well, nothing more. It is a trendy fitness program and has done well but I personally could care less for it. When I think of crossfit I imagine it as akin to Phoenix AZ and the yoga scene out there; everyone is a follower, not independent thinkers or a leader. While I do have do give xfit props for getting people off the couch (as one of my lessons in training is the best type of exercise is the one you will do), I do not buy into the scene. Tabata interval training is much more beneficial in my humble opinion.

    But while we're at it, your comments about Celorza or EatMoar, or whoever you were talking shyt to were completely uncalled for. You simply cannot come onto this forum with no reputation at all and call out respected members and think you will not be attacked in kind. Unless you are a guru of well respected member of some athletic organization somewhere you have no clout and no leg to stand on...

    I also have serious qualms about the teenagers and early 20 somethings I see at my gym nowadays wearing elevation masks and throwing weights around in a manner that will surely land them laid up in bed for days. Making a ton of ridiculous noise. Taking up multiple areas at a time. Drinking Monsters and Red Bulls during workouts. Its all flashiness nowadays. No real sense of the basics involved in fitness or nutrition...
    I applaud you for getting a degree in a health discipline. I agree experience in the weight room speaks very loud, but if you can get a degree to go with it, that is saying something. I am currently obtaining a degree my self and have personal training for a couple years now. Certified by ACE of course. Also, I have been a college athlete and in the weight room for quite sometime (making many mistakes myself).

    However, to call crossfit a fad, is an opinion. I understand it, but crossfit athletes themselves are nothing to joke about. Visually you can see how big and strong they are. Yes, tons of reps of one movement can damage joints, so does raw powerlifting. Which evil will you pick?

    Now, I don't care how much rep people have on here. I have read profiles of people here who have "rep power" but none of them know anything. Just because you comment on here doesn't mean you know something, just means you have an opinion. Saying something is crap, with no sources, ignorance at its best. Most people on here are younger guys who read magazines and have no other education thatn high school. Yet, they have "rep power"? Give me a break.
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    Originally Posted by cloyd View Post

    I applaud you for getting a degree in a health discipline.

    Now, I don't care how much rep people have on here. I have read profiles of people here who have "rep power" but none of them know anything. Just because you comment on here doesn't mean you know something, just means you have an opinion. Saying something is crap, with no sources, ignorance at its best. Most people on here are younger guys who read magazines and have no other education thatn high school. Yet, they have "rep power"? Give me a break.
    I look at it as a necessity not a hobby. I live for fitness, literally and figuratively. I also believe in a whole body approach to fitness: body/mind/spirit and try to teach this to others. So thank you and right back at you

    Now as far as rep goes I was not referring to rep points, rather reputation in a general sense as well as respectability

    And as far as xfit, no thanks... Ever...
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post

    I look at it as a necessity not a hobby. I live for fitness, literally and figuratively. I also believe in a whole body approach to fitness: body/mind/spirit and try to teach this to others. So thank you and right back at you

    Now as far as rep goes I was not referring to rep points, rather reputation in a general sense as well as respectability

    And as far as xfit, no thanks... Ever...
    Agreed to disagree. Thanks for the conversation.
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    Well, I've been training pretty hard in the gym for last 6 years, and this is what I'll say about this crossfit business... Yes it is effective (if used correctly in conjunction with time tested lifts and good old fashion workout routines), but bear in mind, the essence of crossfit is cutting and recomp (I'm sorry, you are not gunna get more massive using crossfit than using routines set down by Bill Pearl, just saying).

    Crossfit is effective in many of its exercises (which had led to the US Army adopting a good portion of them). But they are moves designed more for athleticism than pure strength and size. If your looking for an all out bulk or strength gain, than this may not be for you. But if you want to keep your athleticism up, your in an infantry unit, or you want to get pretty cut, then utilize crossfit (but I don't recommend making it an inclusive).

    Side note, if you want to be a beast when it comes to strength, I'd suggest you look into routines used by the Russians (I've seen Spentsnaz soldiers lift more weight than many of our competition lifters here in the US)
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    Originally Posted by WarriorMp View Post
    Well, I've been training pretty hard in the gym for last 6 years, and this is what I'll say about this crossfit business... Yes it is effective (if used correctly in conjunction with time tested lifts and good old fashion workout routines), but bear in mind, the essence of crossfit is cutting and recomp (I'm sorry, you are not gunna get more massive using crossfit than using routines set down by Bill Pearl, just saying).

    Crossfit is effective in many of its exercises (which had led to the US Army adopting a good portion of them). But they are moves designed more for athleticism than pure strength and size. If your looking for an all out bulk or strength gain, than this may not be for you. But if you want to keep your athleticism up, your in an infantry unit, or you want to get pretty cut, then utilize crossfit (but I don't recommend making it an inclusive).

    Side note, if you want to be a beast when it comes to strength, I'd suggest you look into routines used by the Russians (I've seen Spentsnaz soldiers lift more weight than many of our competition lifters here in the US)
    I agree many of the articles on Russian weight lifting are hard to refute. I have found many benefits.
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    Originally Posted by Moose45 View Post
    Hell no!!! I have seen plenty of clowns get hurt at our gym!! CFr's always defend these movements as a real show of athleticism!!! What a JOKE!!!!!
    Most of these moves have been around for 40+ years. Some people have just now begin to notice them due to the crossfit phase. We did most of this when I was in Jr high back in 1987. It is nothing "NEW"; it is just renamed so if it was accepted then it should be now.
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    Originally Posted by cloyd View Post
    I agree many of the articles on Russian weight lifting are hard to refute. I have found many benefits.
    Russian routines are supreme when it comes to strength.

    I have used crossfit style moves since 1987 when I was in Jr high. It wasn't CF then, it was just some **** we made up. My goal has always been to stay as quick and athletic as possible while being relatively strong vs my body size. Being 5'11 @ 235 has never been a goal of mine though I have tipped the scales at 218 before @ 15 BF.

    I always do 3 months of CF then 6 weeks of power, 3 months of strength. This has worked for me the best especially with a bad back.
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    Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    You're a jealous human being. Whats the matter cross fit didn't give you the body you were promised? Whats surprise! Lifting high reps and no weight and you didn't gain muscle?! You also didn't eatalot either.... Ohemgee what could've caused you NOT to get yoked?!
    Contrary to popular belief, not everyone lifts weights to be 235@12% BF or to pull 600+ on the DL or squat 600+ for reps. Some people lift for quality of life, mental stability, athleticism, relative strength and conditioning, etc.

    Also, you mentioned "he didn't gain muscle". In what world does the amount of muscle you gain determine your maximum health and strength levels?
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    Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    Any of you guys look like this at 5'7" 190? http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...-crossfit.html

    Some of the exercises like overhead squat and thrusters are pretty legit.
    Of course they are, no one can deny that overhead squats are a legit exercise or thrusters. It is just that most people have no concept of Olympic style lifting because some of the lifts involve a bit more coordination and varying strength vs deadlifts, squats, and bench presses which require a different type of skill set and strength albeit, strong none the less.
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    Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    So y'all are just better than everyone just not the best at anything haha.
    THawk, that really isn't a fair statement to be honest. I have pulled 550 for reps and squatted 550 for reps; for my size that is a significant amount of weight. I do CF six months out of the year and I am not "weak" by any means. Also, I do this with a herniated disk at L5. To say that CF has no benefit is purely irresponsible and full of buffoonery.
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
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    Dumb indeed. Trust me the gentlemen you speak of did not get "big" performing "crossfit" exercises. They did so the old school way, then transitioned.

    Please just stop with your venomous and uninformed comments

    Btw crossfit is just a hodgepodge of traditional exercises mixed together. Period...
    Your last statement basically makes you a hypocrite somewhat. If CF is a hodgepodge of traditional exercises (which I agree it is) and most people "GET BIG" from doing the traditional exercises, then why cannot one get "BIG" from using a mixture of CF and strength training? You cannot lift 135 for reps and get huge, you correct in that regard. But, if you use the methods which I have used, CF for x months, strength training for x months and power lifting for x months, then it all works out perfectly. And, best of all, I stay joint pain free and injury free AND I keep my conditioning at a supreme level..

    No one can deny that it has worked for me because I have done this for 10 years before these moves were "labeled" as crossfit.
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    Originally Posted by MANotaur View Post
    Xf in itself isn't a bad idea...its just the idea behind it has rubbed lots of people the wrong way.

    They take classic OLs, attach a new name to them, do a ridiculously high number of them in succession, slap a label on them like "crossfit" and you have literally a multi million dollar idea. Add a "professional competition" into the mix and its a business mans dream.

    I really do think crossfit has its role if done correctly, its just unfortunate how its come to be because now you have a bunch of Joe's straight out of highschool going to get "Xf coach creditionaled" or whatever the Hell its called and they don't teach proper form or mechanics and ppl get hurt or worse yet spread even more bad form and advice.

    That's the problem i have with crossfit. Its not necessarily the lifts, its the idea in general. Combine that with a bunch of fanboys and its a bbs or strength guys worst nightmare.

    But to each their own. I like the idea of HIT and HIIT but Xf isn't the way to go about doin.g it IMO. Can you benefit from a WOD? Sure! But if its not done properly in conjunction with a proper diet, schedule, or training/coaching- your asking for issues to arise
    There are people in all walks of life teaching things which they have no idea to teach properly including bodybuilding, power lifting, conditioning, etc. I agree, the guy that taught me my "CF" moves knew exactly what he was doing because if he had not, I would have been injured after 10 years of doing them. And, he never called it "CF" because "CF" did not readily exist 10+ years ago.
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    Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    And, he never called it "CF" because "CF" did not readily exist 10+ years ago.
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    Originally Posted by hardknock View Post

    There are people in all walks of life teaching things which they have no idea to teach properly including bodybuilding, power lifting, conditioning, etc. I agree, the guy that taught me my "CF" moves knew exactly what he was doing because if he had not, I would have been injured after 10 years of doing them. And, he never called it "CF" because "CF" did not readily exist 10+ years ago.
    That's true. There is all sorts of bad info and misinformation in all athletic communities not just crossfit. Im not knocking crossfit, I feel it got to big for its britches too quick and now it has to deal with a bunch of idiots going around giving it a bad name..

    It also doesn't help that a large portion of the population that does crossfit/advocates crossfit hates on anybody that doesnt do it because they feel it reigns supreme for health/fitness/well being/athletisism. The inverse is true too of BBs and strength/powerlifters that knock crossfitters.
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    Originally Posted by hardknock View Post

    THawk, that really isn't a fair statement to be honest. I have pulled 550 for reps and squatted 550 for reps; for my size that is a significant amount of weight. I do CF six months out of the year and I am not "weak" by any means. Also, I do this with a herniated disk at L5. To say that CF has no benefit is purely irresponsible and full of buffoonery.
    Read my other comments and you can tell I was being sarcastic. But to be fair that really is the crossfit mantra if you think about it. If comparing a crossfitter to someone's strong suit they don't match up. So crossfitters like to compare themselves to the other peoples' weak link. Therefore in their mind they are better than them yet are the best at nothing(except maybe crossfit but who counts that?).

    Also I said crossfit is fine but it has to be programmed right. Year round metcons without a strength phase is stupid. Which is what crossfit started out as or projected itself to be. Don't know whose idea or when strength started becoming a key component but that is when it started to gain some legitimacy.

    If it gets some couch potato doing something great. But to me there are better options out there.

    And like others said if you want to do crossfit go to a box.
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    I want to know where all these CFers are that compare themselves and say they are better than people? I've been to quite a few CF gyms and comps and everyone I have run into is very humble and hasn't claimed to be better than anyone. My guess is you ran into a d-bag or two and then just decided that all CFers were arrogant. That is about as accurate as saying all bodybuilders are meat heads
    I also think a lot of people here are not exactly aware of the average CFers goal. For the most part from what I've seen it's not to look like a body builder, or to lift like a power lifter. The goal is just to get fit, and improve yourself from where you were before.
    I guess I'm just sick of all the generalizations.
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    Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    I want to know where all these CFers are that compare themselves and say they are better than people? I've been to quite a few CF gyms and comps and everyone I have run into is very humble and hasn't claimed to be better than anyone. My guess is you ran into a d-bag or two and then just decided that all CFers were arrogant. That is about as accurate as saying all bodybuilders are meat heads
    I also think a lot of people here are not exactly aware of the average CFers goal. For the most part from what I've seen it's not to look like a body builder, or to lift like a power lifter. The goal is just to get fit, and improve yourself from where you were before.
    I guess I'm just sick of all the generalizations.
    So you have never heard the comparison of being able to run further than a powerlifter or stronger than an endurance athlete?

    Fittest athlete on the planet?

    I guess I am just tired of seeing crossfit articles haha.
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    Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    So you have never heard the comparison of being able to run further than a powerlifter or stronger than an endurance athlete?

    Fittest athlete on the planet?

    I guess I am just tired of seeing crossfit articles haha.
    I think you may be taking that out of context. The point of that is to say that CF doesn't think people should specialize in only 1 aspect of fitness and having no real weak points being the goal.
    As far as the fittest on the planet.....lame marketing by Reebok, I got nothin! Haha
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    Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post

    I think you may be taking that out of context. The point of that is to say that CF doesn't think people should specialize in only 1 aspect of fitness and having no real weak points being the goal.
    As far as the fittest on the planet.....lame marketing by Reebok, I got nothin! Haha
    You still get my point. And that is the feel of the message.

    Haha I am sure ole glassman had a hand in that too.
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    Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    You still get my point. And that is the feel of the message.

    Haha I am sure ole glassman had a hand in that too.
    I hear ya man! I just hope people out there realize that there are quite a large number of us that just like the type of workouts that a GOOD CF gym provides!! There are a sh+load of crappy gyms making CF look really bad!
    And Glassman can eat my a$$! Fat old sh*tbag!!!
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    Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post

    I hear ya man! I just hope people out there realize that there are quite a large number of us that just like the type of workouts that a GOOD CF gym provides!! There are a sh+load of crappy gyms making CF look really bad!
    And Glassman can eat my a$$! Fat old sh*tbag!!!
    Ya just sucks that there are not enough of them and they are not always affordable.

    To be honest I was asked to help start a cf box haha. At the time I considered it. You know try to be one of the good ones. Communications broke down and I am not sure what happened.

    Ok everyone just hate on glassman and I will be happy haha.
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