Article: Should Obesity Be Stigmatized?
- 01-23-2013, 01:22 PM
and yeah i have a habbit of doing that lol just ask southpaw.
but your absolutely right it is a complex problem and it doesnt have an easy answer, but we have to start somewhere. i just feel that sugar coating isnt the way to do it. granted that stigmas isnt the best, ive just found that with my personality and my experiences, its a least a good way to get the ball rolling.
- 01-23-2013, 01:23 PM
- 01-23-2013, 01:26 PM
I go to the gym, but I don't love it and that includes sparring, lifting, conditioning etc. I hate it, nobody wants to get up in the morning and do that stuff. Of course I do it anyway. I'd take a pill if one existed where I'd no longer need to do those things. Not everyone wants to go to the gym and refer to everyone as "bro" for an hour and a half.
01-23-2013, 01:26 PM
Well some of these examples have gotten a little out of hand. We can't compare tobacco addiction to obesity but we can compare obesity to a cleft lip?
With very few exceptions, obesity is a "disease" of choice.
All of a sudden, within the last decade or so, something like 35% of the US population wound up with some kind of obese gene? Not hardly. Sure there are genetic issues but they are certainly limited in scope. And if you consider overweight and not just the obese you are looking at another 33%. Together, obese and simply overweight people comprise roughly 66% of the whole population of the United States over the age of 20.
Outright bullying may not be the way to go but coddling sure as **** isn't either.
I, for one, would like to see better education relating to health. I think physical education and nutritional classes should be mandatory in our educational system. I agree with laws forcing restaurants to show nutritional info. Unfortunately, most people don't even know what the hell they are reading.
I think doctors should refer overweight and especially obese patients to physical therapy clinics who should broaden their scope to bringing people in to healthy ranges. Exercise should be prescribed for cholesterol, tight muscles et cetera instead of pharma solutions.
I do believe a media campaign to create awareness would be helpful, not only to spread information and create an interest in health but as personal, periodic reminders too.
Considering cigarettes, these methods do work. Slapping a surgeon generals warning on a box and then using the media to push the message of how dangerous tobacco can be certainly enlightened a generation of people who smoke significantly less than previous generations, although tobacco is still legal and readily available for consumption. We are simply more educated about its downside nowdays and usage is down significantly.
If people shun smokers in public places (I do and am happy for smoking bans) it only helps to reinforce the message, although the campaign against smoking isn't based on "shunning" people at all, this aspect is simply human nature.
If doughboy is ostracized and decides to take charge of his health because of it, good. How many wimpy kids picked up a dumbell or started playing sports to "show them"? A lot. And if he decides to ingore information and helpful tools to be healthy, screw him. We all make the beds we sleep in and personal responsibility is unfortunately a rare commodity these days, probably an underlying factor but a different topic altogether.
He and his fat wife create sensory pollution for me in public. It's disgusting, unsettling and smelly, not unlike a garbage dump. Not only that but I fly, a lot. I can't tell you how many fat people have hung over in my seat space on a plane and then hit that ****ing stewardess light for cokes and peanuts the whole god damned flight. They definitely owe me some "rent" on my flight space. And when they eat, they are noisier than my dogs, but I digress.
Negative reinforcement does have it's place when positive coaxing obviously isn't working.
01-23-2013, 01:29 PM
unless its changed again you might be more up to date than me
01-23-2013, 01:34 PM
I find inherent pleasure in setting and accomplishing goals and the gym is one place I can manifest this pleasure, along with self improvement.
If I'm feeling stressed, a heavy leg day or even a long run is like a drug, mentally and physically considering hormonal releases.
Working out in the morning, I feel more energetic, upbeat and ready to take on the world. Sometimes I need to exercise the willpower you mention but not on a regular basis.
I would take a pill too to be sure I cover all my bases, but it would never replace genuine achievement for me.
I feel like you are saying fat asses are weak minded, unmotivated individuals who happen to lack willpower to boot, which is probably true.
I don't know how to fix that, not without some kind of exterior motivation since the interior is obviously whacked. Generally the lazy and unmotivated need a kick in the ass as opposed to a carrot (cupcake) on a stick too, because they are lazy and unmotivated to chase that cupcake.
Make their couch uncomfortable though and they will move.
01-23-2013, 01:34 PM
and also...LADIES AND GENTLEMAN! TEXAS IS HERE!! did you bring GW along?
i have to agree with you though that ignorance isnt an excuse and kids do need to be better educated about the issues at hand as well as adults.
01-23-2013, 01:35 PM
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01-23-2013, 01:47 PM
Maybe we should be creating at least the same level of awareness for the dangers of obesity. We hear all about carcinogens and various habits to avoid in order to avoid cancer. Lets bring on the fat ass habits to avoid heart attacks too. It would be a public service if nothing else.
We aren't talking about striated shoulders and glass cutting abs here, but general health. "Perspective" is a weak argument against health.
Edit: Obesity is even believed to lead to certain types of cancer, as fat cells retain various carcinogens ingested from our environment and, oddly, ****ty foods. It's very deadly and certainly deserves aggressive attention.
01-23-2013, 01:47 PM
the "pass it on" trait really is an important factor in all of this. its important to be able to relate to others when your seeking or giving advice.
01-23-2013, 01:49 PM
01-23-2013, 01:58 PM
Perhaps accidents for children.
01-23-2013, 02:08 PM
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01-23-2013, 02:55 PM
Just total deaths. And that doesn't even account for all the fat kids today that will follow their fat parents, and earlier. I'm betting we see a wider margin of obesity related deaths in the next decade or two to come. But hey, 66% of the total population can't be wrong, and we certainly shouldn't tell them they are too fat.
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01-23-2013, 11:44 PM
as long as the public stigmatizes gear, ill be returning the favor to all the fat phuks out there. once they attempt to change themselves, theyre off my radar
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