Article: Herbal EPO Replacement?

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    Ingredient in new PES supplement? Lol
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    ^^ was thinking the same thing. this or SPP's cardiotryx?
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    for our sake i hope it is.
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    Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    for our sake i hope it is.
    As long as it works, though. GW, for instance, clearly was something that was good on paper but failed miserably when people tried to take it.
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    Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    As long as it works, though. GW, for instance, clearly was something that was good on paper but failed miserably when people tried to take it.
    True that. Never messed with the stuff but who knows if what people were buying was actual GW...
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    sure hope someone gets on this, i want some!
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    Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    True that. Never messed with the stuff but who knows if what people were buying was actual GW...
    A fair retort
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    just getting back into the industry after about a 10 year layoff. where can i get this? i've searched every where.
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    In vitro data people. Someone will have to show oral availability before folks put it in supplements.
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    Originally Posted by D3Baseball View Post
    In vitro data people. Someone will have to show oral availability before folks put it in supplements.
    The article shows both. In vitro data is referencing kinetics of PPAR activation. In vivo showing results with specific dosage.

    "The Koreans fattened mice by giving them food to which extra fat had been added [HFD]. The animals put on weight more quickly than the mice on a normal diet. When the researchers gave HFD mice a daily 200 mg of Artemisia iwayomogi extract per kg bodyweight, then they put on less weight than you’d expect [below left]. Their muscles burned almost twice as much fat as those of the fattened mice that were not given extract [below right]."
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    Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    The article shows both. In vitro data is referencing kinetics of PPAR activation. In vivo showing results with specific dosage.

    "The Koreans fattened mice by giving them food to which extra fat had been added [HFD]. The animals put on weight more quickly than the mice on a normal diet. When the researchers gave HFD mice a daily 200 mg of Artemisia iwayomogi extract per kg bodyweight, then they put on less weight than you’d expect [below left]. Their muscles burned almost twice as much fat as those of the fattened mice that were not given extract [below right]."
    Good catch!
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    So for a person like me I get around 340mg. That's not an unfeasible number.
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    So this is how Bradley Wiggins is going to win the Tour De France!

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