Article: Why Does Breakfast Make Some People Hungry?

[The Press]

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[anathemax]

Really, this makes sense. Good read.

[AutoKal47]

Very cool article
This explain why for me warrior diet is so easy.
I have no problem fasting for 20 hours, but when I start to eat then
I get hungry

[rambofireball]

Good stuff, I'll be excited for part II.

[mrgeeky]

ok, I am one of those that if I eat breakfast it starts me off on a feeding frenzy through out the day. It makes me ravenous and the worst part is it leaves me brain dead. Very tired and lethargic.
I have known for a long time that the "eating breakfast is a main meal of the day" myth needed debunking as it was all lies.
What you dont state is how and when we should be having our first meal of the day.
For me Im best with that being lunch time..
But if body building thats a long time with out the protien I need..
Answers Please?

For now Im jsut having a protien shake with raw eggs for breakfast on the odd occassions that I can stomache having breaky.. I find its a matter of trying to find a way to have protien in the lightest form possible so it feels like you are just consuming a drink. ie not a meal..

I would love to hear your thoughts on how to get protein through out the morning with out eating though..

cheers for the brilliant article..

[rambofireball]

ok, I am one of those that if I eat breakfast it starts me off on a feeding frenzy through out the day. It makes me ravenous and the worst part is it leaves me brain dead. Very tired and lethargic.
I have known for a long time that the "eating breakfast is a main meal of the day" myth needed debunking as it was all lies.
What you dont state is how and when we should be having our first meal of the day.
For me Im best with that being lunch time..
But if body building thats a long time with out the protien I need..
Answers Please?

For now Im jsut having a protien shake with raw eggs for breakfast on the odd occassions that I can stomache having breaky.. I find its a matter of trying to find a way to have protien in the lightest form possible so it feels like you are just consuming a drink. ie not a meal..

I would love to hear your thoughts on how to get protein through out the morning with out eating though..

cheers for the brilliant article..

Lol! Raw eggs? d&mn, doin' it rocky style.

Watch out for that Salmonella!

[GuyverX]

Not sure if it explains my situation but it does make sense.
If eat within 2 hours of waking I;ll be hungry all day.
But if I wait like at least 4-5 hours I'm fine.

Always thought I was just weird.
And some days as long as my mind is occupied enough, my appetite is nonexistent.

Might try the leangains intermittent fast pretty soon.

[OrganicShadow]

Just finished 8 egg whites 2oz chicken with bell peppers, onion, and tomato. Added 1/2 grapefruit and a banana. I am fairly certain ill be hungry in an hour.

Thanks for posting this, looking forward to the next addition. It's only been recently that I've begun to think that my approaches to breakfast, the concept in its entirety, might be backwards.

[AutoKal47]

ok, I am one of those that if I eat breakfast it starts me off on a feeding frenzy through out the day. It makes me ravenous and the worst part is it leaves me brain dead. Very tired and lethargic.
I have known for a long time that the "eating breakfast is a main meal of the day" myth needed debunking as it was all lies.
What you dont state is how and when we should be having our first meal of the day.
For me Im best with that being lunch time..
But if body building thats a long time with out the protien I need..
Answers Please?

For now Im jsut having a protien shake with raw eggs for breakfast on the odd occassions that I can stomache having breaky.. I find its a matter of trying to find a way to have protien in the lightest form possible so it feels like you are just consuming a drink. ie not a meal..

I would love to hear your thoughts on how to get protein through out the morning with out eating though..

cheers for the brilliant article..

Long time without protein?
Why? Do you think you'll go catabolic if you don't down
protein first thing in the morning? It's bs
It ain't that easy to go catabolic don't worry.
You can safely skip breakfast and eat your lunch as first meal
if that's makes it easier to stick to your diet.
I fast for 20 hours a day (been doing it for years now)
I haven't hit a plateau in 8 months, size is increasing
without affecting BF.
With that said, if you want to get some protein first thing
that's what Leucine/EEAs/BCAAs are for. Getting 10/20gr
in between meals (in your case replacing breakfast) might increase
protein synthesis

[OrganicShadow]

Well. That would certainly make my mornings easier so I can sleep a little longer.

[pmdied]

I typically get up at 6, gym at 7:15 and first meal at 9:30- usually a protein shake with oat powder. I just don't have an appetite when I get up and I've been able to gain/cut as I please. Very good read.

[rambofireball]

I fast for 20 hours a day (been doing it for years now)
I haven't hit a plateau in 8 months, size is increasing
without affecting BF.

D&mn, that's impressive, mind if I ask what size/weight you have put on since starting the regimen?

[AutoKal47]

D&mn, that's impressive, mind if I ask what size/weight you have put on since starting the regimen?

I've never been after gaining weight, I wouldn't advice that protocol to someone who
wants to bulk. My goal was/is to keep my BF as is and still gaining lil size,
and for that, is perfect.

In the last 6 months tho', I added *inches* everywhere, I don't know wtf is going on but
I kept getting stronger non-stop, especially my back got so much wider and thicker,
but my whole body really.
But my diet hasn't changed, it's my workout that got even crazier..
To be honest one thing did change in my diet in the past 6 months:
I used to do 1 refeed/carb-up a week, then my body stopped producing the enzyme
needed to digest carbs (any) so I stopped the refeed protocol.
That should've gave me opposite results, instead my body seems to work
so much better without carbs (granted that the refeed was an experiment, I did it
only for 10 weeks or so..).

I'll be posting some new pics soon so to compare with the ones are up now.
BF was not affected, actually, I'm even a bit drier and more
vascular thanks to AAv2/Recompadrol stack,
veins started to pop up on my back, shoulders and traps too even at rest

[rambofireball]

I've never been after gaining weight, I wouldn't advice that protocol to someone who
wants to bulk. My goal was/is to keep my BF as is and still gaining lil size,
and for that, is perfect.

In the last 6 months tho', I added *inches* everywhere, I don't know wtf is going on but
I kept getting stronger non-stop, especially my back got so much wider and thicker,
but my whole body really.
But my diet hasn't changed, it's my workout that got even crazier..
To be honest one thing did change in my diet in the past 6 months:
I used to do 1 refeed/carb-up a week, then my body stopped producing the enzyme
needed to digest carbs (any) so I stopped the refeed protocol.
That should've gave me opposite results, instead my body seems to work
so much better without carbs (granted that the refeed was an experiment, I did it
only for 10 weeks or so..).

I'll be posting some new pics soon so to compare with the ones are up now.
BF was not affected, actually, I'm even a bit drier and more
vascular thanks to AAv2/Recompadrol stack,
veins started to pop up on my back, shoulders and traps too even at rest

Interesting about the advancements after discontinuing the refeed. Thanks for the response.

[AutoKal47]

Interesting about the advancements after discontinuing the refeed. Thanks for the response.

No prob, I was surprised as well
I got some size while I was doing refeeds
but look was different, same BF but a bit less "sharp"
Since I stopped not only I kept increasing size but
body comp improved so much, more vascular, grainy look..
I feel better too, I used to feel weak the day after,
which affected my wo for that day, now my energy levels
are always up and even I keep hitting PR on compound lifts every month
so much better..

[rambofireball]

No prob, I was surprised as well
I got some size while I was doing refeeds
but look was different, same BF but a bit less "sharp"
Since I stopped not only I kept increasing size but
body comp improved so much, more vascular, grainy look..
I feel better too, I used to feel weak the day after,
which affected my wo for that day, now my energy levels
are always up and even I keep hitting PR on compound lifts every month
so much better..

D&mn, you make the keto diet sound super enticing lol. That said, most of what I've read and experienced says that without a poWO carb source you should be stagnant in gains, if not regressing. How are you keeping up your glycogen stores? According to Kiefer, they should be toast in less than a week of lifting weights without carbs.

[AutoKal47]

D&mn, you make the keto diet sound super enticing lol. That said, most of what I've read and experienced says that without a poWO carb source you should be stagnant in gains, if not regressing. How are you keeping up your glycogen stores? According to Kiefer, they should be toast in less than a week of lifting weights without carbs.

I might be a strange case here, I honestly don't know, but I can tell you that in *my* experience,
that is bs. Like big time bs.
I've done postwo carbs for few months years ago (just a bowl of cereals pwo)
because I didn't know better and because I too was reading stuff like that..
Not that I was fat by any stretch but definitely not even close to the shape/BF I am now,
my strength is *doubled* since then and my gains progress exactly the same
(granted like I mentioned before that I am NOT after major mass gains,
I don't do bulk, I'm fairly happy with my size and I'm natural anyway so..)

With my workout intensity (my sessions are at least 3 hours, most of them even longer, right now 7 days a week)
and DOMS that feel more like actual muscle damages glycogen stores on me are probably toast in 2 days.
How do I keep 'em up? I have no idea to be honest.. I train, I eat the same things every day, it works.
I took some experimentation with food, that's for sure.
Right now if there's a day I feel particularly beat up (deadlift/back thickness/hamstring day is pretty damn heavy..)
I just eat a lil more of the same stuff and I'm gold.
A lil more means really a lil, like a 2 eggs omelette or 150gr of greek yogurt on top of my regular day
I never cheat on my diet, ever. Actually, now that I think about it, I don't remember the last time I did it
must be few years i think

[rambofireball]

I might be a strange case here, I honestly don't know, but I can tell you that in *my* experience,
that is bs. Like big time bs.
I've done postwo carbs for few months years ago (just a bowl of cereals pwo)
because I didn't know better and because I too was reading stuff like that..
Not that I was fat by any stretch but definitely not even close to the shape/BF I am now,
my strength is *doubled* since then and my gains progress exactly the same
(granted like I mentioned before that I am NOT after major mass gains,
I don't do bulk, I'm fairly happy with my size and I'm natural anyway so..)

With my workout intensity (my sessions are at least 3 hours, most of them even longer, right now 7 days a week)
and DOMS that feel more like actual muscle damages glycogen stores on me are probably toast in 2 days.
How do I keep 'em up? I have no idea to be honest.. I train, I eat the same things every day, it works.
I took some experimentation with food, that's for sure.
Right now if there's a day I feel particularly beat up (deadlift/back thickness/hamstring day is pretty damn heavy..)
I just eat a lil more of the same stuff and I'm gold.
A lil more means really a lil, like a 2 eggs omelette or 150gr of greek yogurt on top of my regular day
I never cheat on my diet, ever. Actually, now that I think about it, I don't remember the last time I did it
must be few years i think

So... pretty much, AutoKal=superhuman. Lol.

[AutoKal47]

So... pretty much, AutoKal=superhuman. Lol.

lol def not, i just think my body worked better with protein and fats to begin with,
the long term low carb diet made it adapt even more to such regimen, but yeah,
even in previous conversation with other members here we agreed that the way
my body works seems at least.. unusual lol

[OrganicShadow]

Youre a freak of nature.

And thanks for the convo we had BTW - significant improvement in all life aspects immediately.