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New Asteroid stack?

ugab37

ugab37

Applied Nutriceuticals Rep.
USP,
I just purchased some DNA and cialabol. I have some symmetry, c2, camph, powerfull, and cissus as well. Can you guys recommend some stacks similar to the asteroid stack with these new products added in?
 
ugab37 said:
USP,
I just purchased some DNA and cialabol. I have some symmetry, c2, camph, powerfull, and cissus as well. Can you guys recommend some stacks similar to the asteroid stack with these new products added in?
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Love to but lets see How good my customers OR FUTURE TESTERS can reccomend!
 
Just a customer here but...
Asteroid Stack = Cissus RX/Symmetry X/PowerFULL (correct?)
Well...
ON
PowerFULL/Cissus RX-10 caps each@3 pre-breakfast/4 pre-workout/3 before bed
Symmetry X-6 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout/2 pre-supper
cAMPHIBOLIC-5 caps@2 pre-breakfast/1 pre-workout/2 pre-bed
c2-5 caps@3 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout
DNA-6 caps@3 pre-breakfast/3 pre-workout
Cialabol-10 caps@4 pre-breakfast/6 pre-workout

OFF
PowerFULL/Cissus RX-6 caps each@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout/2 before bed
Symmetry X-6 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-lunch/2 pre-supper
cAMPHIBOLIC-5 caps@2 pre-breakfast/1 pre-lunch/2 pre-bed
c2-5 caps@3 pre-breakfast/2 pre-lunch

What to expect
This stack like any is dependant upon your diet however there are benefits you should expect almost regardless of your goal.
If clean bulking
Expect fat loss, lean mass and overall weight gain.
If dirty bulking
Expect to minimise or potentially lose bodyfat whilst gaining lean mass.
If cutting
Expect great fat loss while maintaining or even gaining lean mass.
Regardless
Expect constant "Cissus" pumps, improved balance, strength gains, improved stamina and muscle recovery, feeling of well being, fantastic deep sleep and amazingly vivid dreams.

Split Stacks
If you would like to split the products into two seperate stacks I would recommend the following (at the same doses and timing as posted previously)

PowerFULL
Cissus RX
DNA
cAMPH
OR
PowerFULL
Symmetry X
Cialabol
c2

You would experience strength and muscle gains aswell as some fat loss using either stack although the second stack isn't as focussed on fat loss as the first and is more aimed for strength gains.

Supplement Breakdown
PowerFULL aids testosterone production, noticeable results of supplementation are enhanced : libido, balance, strength, stamina, recovery, sleep and feeling of well being.
Cissus RX is the anti-catabolic joint supplement that pulls out all the stops, expect enhanced : joint strength, injury recovery and all day natural pump.
Symmetry X is Cissus RX’s anabolic brother aiding both PowerFULL and Cissus RX build lean mass, expect this supplement to amplify the synergy of PowerFULL and Cissus RX.
cAMPHIBOLIC is a thermogenic fat burner that attacks fat throughout the day and while you sleep. To put it bluntly, expect fat loss.
c2 is a stimulant based thermogenic that aids energy levels whilst burning fat, a synergetic addition with cAMPHIBOLIC but also a good energy supplement in itself which doesn’t cause an energy crash.
DNA aids in muscle building by increasing LH which in turn makes a testosterone product like PowerFULL a must have when using DNA and vice versa for a great combo.
Cialabol is a creatine with a difference, repartitioning, improved strength and potentially synergetic with PowerFULL and DNA, the only downside being potential stomach discomfort because of the banana leaf however only a minority of testers experienced any discomfort.

My reasoning for the suggested dosing is that for ON days you want all corners covered which I believe my recommendations do, the reason for OFF day dosing is that while you could just replicate the dosing of an ON day you would be wasting your supply and therefore your money. Also lower doses on OFF days allow you to use what supplements you do have for longer which in turn will equal more gains whether they are in terms of fat loss, lean mass gain or athletic ability.

For those of you whom do not want one large stack and instead would prefer to have 2 smaller stacks I suggested the following stacks at previously stated doses.
PowerFULL
Cissus RX
DNA
cAMPH
PowerFULL and Cissus RX are the staples of this stack, making a foundation for strength and size gains. DNA amplifies PowerFULL’s anabolic effect and cAMPHIBOLIC makes sure you keep lean or get leaner. This stack focuses on lean mass gain and preservation.

PowerFULL
Symmetry X
Cialabol
c2
This time the focus is more on strength gains with c2 keeping energy levels stable and aiding in body fat moderation.
 
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More info before I can make anything up. I was halfway through with a stack but then realized I have no clue of your goals or if there's any other supps you're taking.
 
Jayhawkk said:
More info before I can make anything up. I was halfway through with a stack but then realized I have no clue of your goals or if there's any other supps you're taking.
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Agreed. Really need to know the goals, weight, etc.. And supplements they are currently taking to recommend anything.
 
If you want to split the stacks into mass building then leaning up Here is how i would do it.

The Hypertrophic Stack:
This is the most powerful herbal stack on the market today. Each and every one of these products are using cutting edge science, to provide the best quality product so that you can have the best quality gains that last!

Powerfull - Provides unbelievable pumps, increased strength, increased recovery and an increase in testosterone.

Symmentry - is the anabolic part of cissus. With Symmetry you will get stronger, recover quicker and get bigger faster.

Cissus - Cissus will make most of your aches and pains go away. Cissus will speed up recovery, increase strength and at high doses is extremely anabolic.

Cialabol - Cialabol is USP newest product to hit the market. Cialabol provides unbealiable recovery time, body-fat reduction and the most amazing all day muscles hardness. Just imagine getting big pumps that last just from flexing... thats Cialabol.

C2 - Is the stimulant of choice for the serious athletic. No other stimulant can provide you with greater mind-muscle connectivity and amazing energy all without jitters or the crash associated with other stimulant type products.

Anabolic, Recovery, Endurance, Energy and Power thats the Synergy Muscle Hypertrophic Stack.

Powerfull
3-4 caps 30-45 minutes pre workout
2-3 caps at night

off days
2 morning
2 evening

symmetry
2 morning
2 pre-workout
2 before bed

cissus
2 morning
2 before lunch
2 before dinner

cialabol
2-3 caps with morning Meal
4 caps with pre workout meal
2-3 caps with meal after post workout

off days
2 morning
2 evening

C2
2 morning
2 pre workout

The Lean Mass Stack:
Powerfull - Provides unbelievable pumps, increased strength, increased recovery and an increase in testosterone.

Symmentry - is the anabolic part of cissus. With Symmetry you will get stronger, recover quicker and get bigger faster.

Cissus - Cissus will make most of your aches and pains go away. Cissus will speed up recovery, increase strength and at high doses is extremely anabolic.

Cialabol - Cialabol is USP newest product to hit the market. Cialabol provides unbelievable recovery time, body-fat reduction and the most amazing all day muscles hardness. Just imagine getting big pumps that last just from flexing... thats Cialabol.

C2 - Is the stimulant of choice for the serious athletic. No other stimulant can provide you with greater mind-muscle connectivity and amazing energy all without jitters or the crash associated with other stimulant type products.

Camphibolic - The one and only night time thermagenic on the market today. The only thermogenic on the market that can be taken during the day and night. Losing weight has never been so easy!

Anabolic, Recovery,Power, Energy and Body Fat Reduction thats the Synergy Muscle Lean Mass Stack.

Powerfull
3-4 caps 30-45 minutes pre workout
2-3 caps at night

off days
2 morning
2 evening

cialabol
2-3 caps with morning Meal
4 caps with pre workout meal
2-3 caps with meal after post workout

off days
2 morning
2 evening

cissus
Workout days
3 morning
3 pre workout
3 after workout
important to dose morning 15 min before breakfast and about 30 minutes
before training.

off days
2 morning
2 before lunch
2 before dinner

Camp
2 morning
2 pre-workout
2 before bed

C2
2 morning
2 pre workout
 
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The New Asteroid Stack, by USP Labs/Synergy Muscle

The backbone of this proposed stack is the compound Cissus. A combination of vitamins, minerals, and plant sterol compounds, Cissus-RX will not only build and strengthen muscle and bone, but actually help deliver nutrients to your tendons. This will greatly aid in recovery and strength. The user feedback speaks for itself: people with joint problems and injuries report almost supernatural recovery with their ailments. This product should be dosed 6-10 caps per day. Following up is Symmetry-X, the extract of Cissus containing anabolic properties. At 6 caps per day, his gives the cissus an extra kick by enhancing recovery, increasing protein synthesis and thereby creating an anabolic state where strength and lean mass gains are easily acheived. The third and final stage of the Cissus-based products is cAMPHOBOLIC. This is an extremely unique product, being a night-time thermogenic. At 6 caps per day, cAMP promotes muscle-sparing and at the same time fat-burning properties. Also, being a night time product, will increase sleeping deeply, which in turn promotes anabolism and recovery. All three of these products are non-stimulant, therefore can be taken before bed with little-to-no disturbance in sleeping patterns (quite the opposite: will improve your sleep!)

The next product, which is already established as a heavy hitter in the bodybuilding world, is called Powerfull. This amazing natural testosterone enhancer utilizies PureSap<TM> technology (100% Saponis). This product will produce synethic-hormone-like results, based on many clinical and real-life trials from bodybuilders. Users report increased positive aggression, strength increases, endurance, quality of sleep and recovery. You will also feel a signifigant increase in sex drive and sexual stamina. Dosage is 6-10 caps per day, and can be taken before bed. Powerfull is usually felt within 2 to 7 days of your starting dose. Powerfull logs can be found at Invalid Link Removed

The next product is in a class of it's own and is called c2. This thermobolic is an amazing energizer that contains stimulants (avoid before bed!). Taken pre-workout, this will put you in the zone to lift those heavy weights. Burning fat and at the same time conserving and building muscle, one of the few products that will drop your pant size and still increase your bench press. There has also been considerable feedback concerning the mood-altering and uplifting properties this product has on it's users. Feeling tired from your hardcore workouts, give this a try. It is a breath of fresh air at 3-5 capsules per day.

The two newest products from USP aren't as well known but none the less powerful compounds that will shoot you to the top of the game. DNA & Cialabol have affects such as increasing appetite, strength output, vascularity, recovery, positive aggression, sexual vigor and enhanced sleep. DNA is a complex blend that is proven to increase serum testosterone as well as increase sex drive. The ingredients: dodder seed and nettle root, are natural herbs and completely safe. DNA should be 2 caps taken 10 minutes before a meal. Cialiabol which contains Creatine Ethyl Ester and potent insulin regulators, should be taken in a large dose of 5 caps in the morning, and 5 caps pre-workout.

So, how do all of these create a 'synergy'?
There are 2 mechanisms at work in this powerful Asteroid stack. The first is muscle building. Powerfull and DNA increases anabolism through natural testosterone output. The positive aggression and brute strength produced from these two, plus recovery properties of Symmetry-X will create the lean mass gains and recovery capabilities that would make an incredible stack alone. But on top of that you have Cissus RX, which will strengthen your bones and tendons for your hard training along with shuttling nutrients to your broken down muscles. Cialabol will enhance your stamina and strength during your workouts, optimizing protein synthesis and work output. This mechanism alone of building power and strength would make for an incredible stack. But wait, there's more!

The thermobolic/thermogenic is the final stage of this stack and is needed for many reasons. C2 will enhance your recovery, enabling you to train as hard as you will on the compounds listed above. And don't worry about gaining fat with your muscle, cAMP and c2 do a fantastic job at using the fat you already have on your body for energy while keeping you from adding any additional fat. Not only that, but these compounds will enable your body to grow faster while you sleep while speeding up your metabolism slightly, utilizing a faster protein synthesis.

Basically, this is a large stack but the most powerful non-hormonal stack on the market. Being safe and effective, you need not look any further to acheive your goals. You have found what you need. You've put enough time in to earn this...It's time to get serious...
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I've put my stack into an easy-to-follow daily schedule, organizing it by the times of day rather the compound. It is intended to take the minimum amount of each compound but utilized at the proper time schedule; therefor making the most 'bang for your buck.' For instance, cAMP is only taken at night. The Cissus is only taken with meals and the Cialabol is taken towards the morning, giving you adequate time for proper water consumption. This makes it cost efficient and at the same time very effective.

First Thing in the AM
2 caps c2
2 caps DNA

With Breakfast
2 caps Cissus-RX
2 caps Symmetry-X

Mid-Morning
4 caps Cialabol

Pre-Workout
3 caps Cialabol
4 caps Powerfull
2 caps Symmetry-X
2 caps c2

Post-Workout
3 caps Cialabol
2 caps Symmetry-X

With Dinner
2 caps Cissus-RX
2 caps DNA

Before Bed
2 Caps Powerfull
3 Caps cAMP
 
Guys NEW asteroid stack. He does not have symmetry so may want to out optional next to it..

I like the jayhawk approach about asking quetions!
 
USPLabs said:
Guys NEW asteroid stack. He does not have symmetry so may want to out optional next to it..

I like the jayhawk approach about asking quetions!
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Hmm, he says he has some Symmetry.
 
Jayhawkk said:
More info before I can make anything up. I was halfway through with a stack but then realized I have no clue of your goals or if there's any other supps you're taking.
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Not to sound like an a$$, but I agree with Jayhawkk. You need to list your goals as well as some personal stats in order to optimize your supplement use. Also, what is your diet consisting or going to consist of?

I assume you want the most benefit from your hard earned dollars, so PLEASE provide more info and I as well as others can REALLY DOSE YOU UP!!! :bruce3:



Additionally, have you used any of the products before? If not, you may want to start with smaller cycled stacks to gauge their effectiveness in your body.
 
Ziricote said:
Just a customer here but...
Asteroid Stack = Cissus RX/Symmetry X/PowerFULL (correct?)
Well...
ON
PowerFULL/Cissus RX-10 caps each@3 pre-breakfast/4 pre-workout/3 before bed
Symmetry X-6 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 before post-workout meal/2 pre-supper
cAMPHIBOLIC-5 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout/3 pre-bed
c2-5 caps@3 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout
DNA-6 caps@3 pre-breakfast/3 pre-workout
Cialabol-10 caps@4 pre-breakfast/6 pre-workout

OFF
PowerFULL/Cissus RX-6 caps each@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout/2 before bed
Symmetry X-6 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-lunchl/2 pre-supper
cAMPHIBOLIC-5 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout/3 pre-bed
c2-5 caps@3 pre-breakfast/2 pre-lunch

This is based on the assumption you have more ON days than you have OFF.
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I'd recommend to make it 7 cAMP there, cookiemonster my friend.
 
Hint: most thought out stack and Incude a section on what to expect from the stacks in accordance to his goals. I like physical and Psychological FEEL feedback.

Be real on the feedback but you can make it sound like Honest advertising.

Contest earnings just increased to 6 bottles!

You may edit you're thread and winner chosen tomorrow. I may include a few extra gifts for the winner!
 
Keep in mind guys that these are a lot of products to be taking and the effects associated prior to sleep etc.

Me personally? I see a split cycle here if his goals are setup the way I would do it.
6week cycle 4 week post cycle therapy
Week 1-6 *set Products*
Week 5-10 *set Products*

Just because you have 6 bottles of supps doesn't mean you hav to take them all, allthe time. And because of synergistic effects the doses can be lowered so you don't overtax your system and you extend you product. lets be real here guys. Not all of us are rich and we want best bang for our buck. Don't let the prizes sway you from being real in your approach.
 
Jayhawkk said:
Keep in mind guys that these are a lot of products to be taking and the effects associated prior to sleep etc.

Me personally? I see a split cycle here if his goals are setup the way I would do it.
6week cycle 4 week post cycle therapy
Week 1-6 *set Products*
Week 5-10 *set Products*

Just because you have 6 bottles of supps doesn't mean you hav to take them all, allthe time. And because of synergistic effects the doses can be lowered so you don't overtax your system and you extend you product. lets be real here guys. Not all of us are rich and we want best bang for our buck. Don't let the prizes sway you from being real in your approach.
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Amen.
Hey, when is Nutra gonna be carrying the Gyno tester? Got any logs going on that bad boy?
 
Jayhawkk said:
Keep in mind guys that these are a lot of products to be taking and the effects associated prior to sleep etc.

Me personally? I see a split cycle here if his goals are setup the way I would do it.
6week cycle 4 week post cycle therapy
Week 1-6 *set Products*
Week 5-10 *set Products*

Just because you have 6 bottles of supps doesn't mean you hav to take them all, allthe time. And because of synergistic effects the doses can be lowered so you don't overtax your system and you extend you product. lets be real here guys. Not all of us are rich and we want best bang for our buck. Don't let the prizes sway you from being real in your approach.
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Hint Hint

Rich man/poor man
 
Well, we'd need to know how much of each supplement the threadstarter has to give any cheap and cheerful suggestion however regardless of supplement supply I'd still suggest the two seperate stacks at the doses I previously stated as a more economic choice.
 
If it doesn't look like he's coming back anytime soon I'll just post a cycle that I would run had I had access to all the above supps.
 
Jayhawkk said:
If it doesn't look like he's coming back anytime soon I'll just post a cycle that I would run had I had access to all the above supps.
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Jayhawkk,

I read somewhere that you had outstanding results from the following stacks, and would ask that you describe them:

Catfish Hunter-orama Stack
Coal Migration Stack
Iggy Pop/Gary Coleman Stack
Wet Willie/Mountain Bike Stack

Please elaborate with the ingredients, dosage and protocol of each.
 
Really No need for him to post Goals...Goals are diet dependant with supplements are the needed edge.

THe purpose is that anyone can impliment the stack into thier current program.
 
Stakes just go higher..

I want a article formatt!

8 bottles C2
4 PowerFULL
maybe a few others!
 
USPLabs said:
Stakes just go higher..

I want a article formatt!

8 bottles C2
4 PowerFULL
maybe a few others!
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Article format? I'm not familiar with how that might look like...
 
Got a bit bored, actually decided to do a little article in my original post. Bed time now me thinks Zzzz
 
Beau said:
Jayhawkk,

I read somewhere that you had outstanding results from the following stacks, and would ask that you describe them:

Catfish Hunter-orama Stack
Coal Migration Stack
Iggy Pop/Gary Coleman Stack
Wet Willie/Mountain Bike Stack

Please elaborate with the ingredients, dosage and protocol of each.
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Unfortunately, I noticed that I neglected to ask for detailed information on the oft-mentioned (but frequently misunderstood) “Randolph Mantooth/Flock of Seagulls Stack”. If it isn’t too much trouble, please add this one to the wish list.
 
masteroid stack

MASSteroid Stack

There comes a point in every athlete’s life where he must decide how good he wants to be and how bad he wants it. Some people are satisfied with mediocrity, satisfied to rest on their laurels, on the accomplishments of their past. We all know the type, the high school all conference quarterback or the track star or the guy who set his university’s bench record. All good athletes, but their abilities will soon melt away if they allow themselves to stagnate, just as a military can’t rely on the tactics that won a battle decades ago, and just as a company can’t be satisfied with yesterday’s products. This is where one must choose what he wants.

Everyone’s heard it before, “I could be as strong as you if I spent all my time in the gym,” “I could be as big as you if I took supplements.” These are all excuses for weakness. People who are strong and driven don’t have excuses. They get in the gym and push till it hurts and then push harder. Everyone will eventually reach a plateau however, and if that person is strong then they will find a way to break through their plateau.

That’s where the new MASSteroid stack comes into play. The simple asteroid stack just got better. Don’t get me wrong, the old asteroid stack was and is great. Why rest on your laurels though? You wouldn’t make excuses and accept that behavior from yourself so why accept it from your supplement company. Here’s where USP Labs comes in.


The meat and potatoes of the stack are comprised of 5 products, the big 5 you might call them. Symmetry X, Cissus RX, Powerfull, Cialabol, and DNA. You might be familiar with the first three, but the last two are completely new. Here’s a quick rundown on each product and its effects.

Symmetry X: A natural herbal anabolic that works both outside of hormonal pathways and through hormonal pathways by balancing the body’s hormones so they can function at peak efficiency.

Cissus RX: A potent herbal extract that promotes connective tissue health and healing as well as anabolism in skeletal muscle.

Powerfull: As its name says, it’s a powerful natural test booster, but like symmetry it also has non-hormonal pathways through which it acts. One of the best things about this supplement is the mind-muscle connection it provides, it’s almost as if you can feel every fiber of your muscles contracting and relaxing.

Cialabol: This is a combination of creatine and insulin regulator. Banaba leaf extract by itself is a powerful controller of blood sugar. It has been shown in both human and animal studies to aid in the metabolism of sugars, control insulin, reduce hunger and cravings, and promote weight loss. Luteolin, the other insulin regulator is a citrus bioflavonoid and a potent anti-oxidant. Combining the nutrient repartitioning effects of banaba leaf and luteolin with the muscle building effects of creatine you’ve got one helluva trio.

DNA: Another test booster with an ingredient yet to be used in sport supplementation, until now. Dodder seed comes from a vine native to China, where it has been used as a sexual tonic for centuries. Aside from being simply a sexual tonic however, it has been shown to increase the size of testicles and increase serum testosterone. The other two ingredients in the combo, avena sativa and nettle root have already shown effectiveness in the supplement world as test boosters. This new combination has the potential to be out of this world.

Dosing of the Big 5

Workout days:
8 caps Powerfull- 4 pre-workout, 4 upon rising in the morning
10 caps Cialabol- 4 in the morning with breakfast, 6 with post workout shake (Some may prefer to take it pre-workout, I chose not to write it up that way because having low blood sugar during a workout would be counter-productive.)
8 caps Cissus- 4 pre-workout, 4 spread throughout the day
6 caps DNA- 2 caps upon waking, 2 caps pre-workout, and 2 caps before bed
6 caps Symmetry X- 4 pre-workout, 2 before bed

Off days:
6 caps Powerfull split in three doses
10 caps Cialabol- 2-3 before each meal
6-8 caps Cissus split in three doses
6 caps DNA- 2 caps upon waking, 2 caps pre-workout, and 2 caps before bed
6 caps Symmetry X- 2 caps upon waking, 2 caps pre-workout, and 2 caps before bed

Optional Additions

REM3G: 4 caps before bed each night would provide for a deep restful sleep and increased GH and test output in the night. Everyone knows that increased GH and test causes a person to tend toward decreased body fat and increase muscle.
C2: A good pre-workout stimulant, especially if cutting. Use 2 caps pre-workout and 2-4 caps throughout the rest of the day if on a cut. If you really want to be effective ephedrine would make a nice addition to this as well.
Camphibolic: Great for cutting or body recomposition. The best part is that it’s stimulant free and as such can be taken before bed. Use 6-8 caps spread throughout the day with 2-3 caps before bed.
Caffeine/taurine: If you’re on a budget, 200 mg caffeine and 2-3g taurine can be used in place of the C2
CEE/K-R-ALA: Another budget substitution for the Cialabol. Not optimal, but it’ll get the job done if funds don’t allow for Cialabol to be used.

Split MASSteroid

Splitting up the Masteroid stack would be another good way of saving money and extending use of the supplements. If you wanted to split up use I’d recommend doing it like this:

Week 1-6: Powerfull, Cissus, Cialabol
Week 7-12: Symmetry, Cissus, DNA

I broke it up like this because I’ve felt the synergy between Powerfull and CEE so I thought they should go together. I figure DNA would take Powerfull’s place as the test booster for the last 6 weeks and Symmetry would provide some extra growth. I think Cissus should be used throughout simply for it’s joint and connective tissue healing properties.

Ancillaries:

Cocoa Butter- If you're bulking it may help with the stretch marks.
Attractive Female/Protection- you're gonna be sportin' wood all the time on this stack so you might as well use it.
New clothes- Might as well pick up some clothes that'll fit you.

In conclusion it must be stressed that these supplements won’t take the place of hard work, and if you’re not driven to overcome then you won’t succeed. If you’re tired of being stuck at a plateau and feel like you just want to get big and ripped to shreds then this is probably one of the best ways to do it.
 
Damn, talking bout some replies. Its only been one day. By the way, my goal right now is recomp. As far as how much of each product I have, I have about five bottles of each except DNA and Cialabol. I have used all products previously except the 2 new ones. My diet will be spot on. I was just looking for some suggestions on how to incorporate the new products, and I definately got some. Thanks for all the suggestions. Ill start a log in about 3 weeks and see how everything goes.
 
ugab37 said:
Damn, talking bout some replies. Its only been one day. By the way, my goal right now is recomp. As far as how much of each product I have, I have about five bottles of each except DNA and Cialabol. I have used all products previously except the 2 new ones. My diet will be spot on. I was just looking for some suggestions on how to incorporate the new products, and I definately got some. Thanks for all the suggestions. Ill start a log in about 3 weeks and see how everything goes.
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Great to hear, good luck and I look foreward to your log! I'm sure you'll make outstanding progress with this stack.
-Renegade
 
ugab37 said:
Damn, talking bout some replies. Its only been one day. By the way, my goal right now is recomp. As far as how much of each product I have, I have about five bottles of each except DNA and Cialabol. I have used all products previously except the 2 new ones. My diet will be spot on. I was just looking for some suggestions on how to incorporate the new products, and I definately got some. Thanks for all the suggestions. Ill start a log in about 3 weeks and see how everything goes.
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Well if recomp is your goal you're definately going to get it, almost regardless of diet plan (deficit or surplus calories). Do you plan on using it all at the same time over 1-2 months or will you split it into more than one stack?
 
I'm going to post my idea of a good plan when I get home tonight but i'm a firm believer of not throwing the kitchen sink into the mix if you don't have to. I've used some of these products with great results. I remember the last time I thought more was better...


Anyways, more later this evening.
 
Ill probably run the 50 day protocol with all products listed above and cals will be slightly above average.
 
Ziricote said:
Just a customer here but...
Asteroid Stack = Cissus RX/Symmetry X/PowerFULL (correct?)
Well...
ON
PowerFULL/Cissus RX-10 caps each@3 pre-breakfast/4 pre-workout/3 before bed
Symmetry X-6 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout/2 pre-supper
cAMPHIBOLIC-5 caps@2 pre-breakfast/1 pre-workout/2 pre-bed
c2-5 caps@3 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout
DNA-6 caps@3 pre-breakfast/3 pre-workout
Cialabol-10 caps@4 pre-breakfast/6 pre-workout

OFF
PowerFULL/Cissus RX-6 caps each@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-workout/2 before bed
Symmetry X-6 caps@2 pre-breakfast/2 pre-lunch/2 pre-supper
cAMPHIBOLIC-5 caps@2 pre-breakfast/1 pre-lunch/2 pre-bed
c2-5 caps@3 pre-breakfast/2 pre-lunch

What to expect
This stack like any is dependant upon your diet however there are benefits you should expect almost regardless of your goal.
If clean bulking
Expect fat loss, lean mass and overall weight gain.
If dirty bulking
Expect to minimise or potentially lose bodyfat whilst gaining lean mass.
If cutting
Expect great fat loss while maintaining or even gaining lean mass.
Regardless
Expect constant "Cissus" pumps, improved balance, strength gains, improved stamina and muscle recovery, feeling of well being, fantastic deep sleep and amazingly vivid dreams.

Split Stacks
If you would like to split the products into two seperate stacks I would recommend the following (at the same doses and timing as posted previously)

PowerFULL
Cissus RX
DNA
cAMPH
OR
PowerFULL
Symmetry X
Cialabol
c2

You would experience strength and muscle gains aswell as some fat loss using either stack although the second stack isn't as focussed on fat loss as the first and is more aimed for strength gains.

Supplement Breakdown
PowerFULL aids testosterone production, noticeable results of supplementation are enhanced : libido, balance, strength, stamina, recovery, sleep and feeling of well being.
Cissus RX is the anti-catabolic joint supplement that pulls out all the stops, expect enhanced : joint strength, injury recovery and all day natural pump.
Symmetry X is Cissus RX’s anabolic brother aiding both PowerFULL and Cissus RX build lean mass, expect this supplement to amplify the synergy of PowerFULL and Cissus RX.
cAMPHIBOLIC is a thermogenic fat burner that attacks fat throughout the day and while you sleep. To put it bluntly, expect fat loss.
c2 is a stimulant based thermogenic that aids energy levels whilst burning fat, a synergetic addition with cAMPHIBOLIC but also a good energy supplement in itself which doesn’t cause an energy crash.
DNA aids in muscle building by increasing LH which in turn makes a testosterone product like PowerFULL a must have when using DNA and vice versa for a great combo.
Cialabol is a creatine with a difference, repartitioning, improved strength and potentially synergetic with PowerFULL and DNA, the only downside being potential stomach discomfort because of the banana leaf however only a minority of testers experienced any discomfort.

My reasoning for the suggested dosing is that for ON days you want all corners covered which I believe my recommendations do, the reason for OFF day dosing is that while you could just replicate the dosing of an ON day you would be wasting your supply and therefore your money. Also lower doses on OFF days allow you to use what supplements you do have for longer which in turn will equal more gains whether they are in terms of fat loss, lean mass gain or athletic ability.

For those of you whom do not want one large stack and instead would prefer to have 2 smaller stacks I suggested the following stacks at previously stated doses.
PowerFULL
Cissus RX
DNA
cAMPH
PowerFULL and Cissus RX are the staples of this stack, making a foundation for strength and size gains. DNA amplifies PowerFULL’s anabolic effect and cAMPHIBOLIC makes sure you keep lean or get leaner. This stack focuses on lean mass gain and preservation.

PowerFULL
Symmetry X
Cialabol
c2
This time the focus is more on strength gains with c2 keeping energy levels stable and aiding in body fat moderation.
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This is actually the one I will use. It will be the first stack listed above. I have a supp. chart will all dosing times listed, so ill start in about 2 weeks. I hoping ill get a shot to test the new usp product, but if not, Ill run this stack as expected. Thanks again for all the replies.
 
Im leaning towards a lean bulker right now. Ill post diet and other supps when i start.
 
Two questions ugab37,
-What bodytype are you and what is your current bf%?
-How many calories/day and what macros will your diet be based on?
 
Ziricote said:
Two questions ugab37,
-What bodytype are you and what is your current bf%?
-How many calories/day and what macros will your diet be based on?
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Im 6'2, 236. Bf% was around 14% last time I had it checked, although it may be lower now.

On a lean bulk, this would be my macro breakdown:
Calories- 3800-4200
Carbs-200-250
Protein-320-350
Fat- 70-90gs (mcts, flax, and fish mostly)

I eat every two hours. I get from 7-8 meals per day. Most of my food comes from eggwhites, wpi, grilled chicken, 96/4 lean beef, wheat pasta, brown rice, and oatmeal. I usually have 3 scoops of muscle milk with carbcountdown milk right before bed. I rarely go very high carb because I gain weight easily, but bf as well. (When Im on a recomp or cut, I carb cycle)
 
Sounds good, what I was thinking is that you might want to up your intake more than you usually would on a bulk. With all those supplements at work on your body you shouldn't have any reason to worry about gaining much fat but play it as you see it.
 
You could definitely up your calorie intake on this stack and you wouldn't really have to worry about fat gain, especially at your size.e
 
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