can we have one please? I have a few question to ask . . .:veryhappy:
Proprietary Blend 119.5 mg *Ask away. Did you read the full write-up when it was released to the IC the other day?
I'm surpirsed that no one has posted the ingredients yet, unless they have and I missed it.
You are right! The methylxanthine, caffeine, interacts in a rather significant manner with Geranium. And they both enhance the effectiveness of Cirsium oligophyllum and the other ingredients.I sure did read the write up . . . was waiting for a rep to make some sort of official release post. . .
What I would like to know is how much geranium per cap. The propriety blend is only 119.5mg, so it cant be too significant. There must be some real synergistic effect with the other ingredients to make it so strong.
Awesome! I would be interested in your OxyELITE Pro feedback. Thank you always for the support, my friend! Wish you fun on OEP! :thumbsup:Thanks Ike. I bought the two bottle deal for $39.95, so I will begin its use once it arrives. I want to do a full-blown cut while trying to garner more strength in the process. It's going to be a hard ride. My nutritionist and I are working on my macro intake and all that good stuff.
I was thinking of AP and Prime, and then adding in Ultima once it is available 4 January 2010. It will be the first stack that includes more than 2 itmes for me. I usually shy away from using too much; however, after reading B5150's results with several products utilized together, I am going to give it a go and see what happens. Ike could always sponsor the run... :kiss:Sounds like a good run on Prime would help achieve your goals
I was thinking of AP and Prime, and then adding in Ultima once it is available 4 January 2010. It will be the first stack that includes more than 2 itmes for me. I usually shy away from using too much; however, after reading B5150's results with several products utilized together, I am going to give it a go and see what happens. Ike could always sponsor the run... :kiss:
Same ingredient at RPN's alphaburn. But here you do not know how much you're gettingIs the "Rauwolfia Canescens" a similar ingredient (or the same) as in RPN Alphaburn? The reason I ask is that I got some sinus issues with Alphaburn , as did some others ......mainly a stuffiness sort of thing.
I am running Prime at the moment (awesome deal on the twin pack plus free AP !!) and was really excited to try Oxy Elite Pro but when I read the profile on the IC release I just wanted to clear this question up.....
Hope someone can provide an answer.
Have there been any similar issues reported by any of the testers with regards sinus issues?
hope you can help ....
thanks
PJ
They're reasonable people; in the past they've released dosages of key ingredients when requested like the caffeine in Recreate and coleus content; they've already given us the caffeine content so perhaps they will indulge us with the rauwolscine content. Even if not, the results seem to suggest it is an effective dose and you can judge for yourself.Same ingredient at RPN's alphaburn. But here you do not know how much you're getting
Caffeine is not included in the 119.5mg proprietary blend.ordered 2 bottles, waiting for them. 119 mg.... and 100 of it is caffeine.... that other 19 mg better be some serious stuff.
ordered 2 bottles, waiting for them. 119 mg.... and 100 of it is caffeine.... that other 19 mg better be some serious stuff.
d'oh!! :32:Caffeine is not included in the 119.5mg proprietary blend.
Hahahaa! Thanks for the heads up.Caffeine is not included in the 119.5mg proprietary blend.
ive been running prime for a couple of weeks with oep and still cutting and my strength is going back up, it amazing, if i can get back to the strength levels i had when i was 25kg heavier then i will be very very happy, ive got 5 bottles all up of prime to use in this runIm running Prime for the first time @ 800mg (I had the old 600mg caps) / 69 protocol and there is a huge difference.
Adding in the OEP together seems to work well, although Im nearly out of OEP until my inner circle arrives.
Rauwolscine is a VERY high extract.They're reasonable people; in the past they've released dosages of key ingredients when requested like the caffeine in Recreate and coleus content; they've already given us the caffeine content so perhaps they will indulge us with the rauwolscine content. Even if not, the results seem to suggest it is an effective dose and you can judge for yourself.
I don't see any reason that you would need to wait.How long would you guys recommend waiting between stacks for one that includes Recreate and one that will use OEP instead?
Ok cool, thanks. I'm not too terribly familiar with the ingredients in each so I wasn't sure if there were any similar ones that you might get a tolerance to.I don't see any reason that you would need to wait.
The only common ingredient is Caffeine. OxyElite's content is moderate to low, Recreate's content is very low so there are no issues.Ok cool, thanks. I'm not too terribly familiar with the ingredients in each so I wasn't sure if there were any similar ones that you might get a tolerance to.
I would want to tell you more than anyone else but I cannot and it is because we tested ratios upon ratios upon ratios to find the prefect ratio.....but it is not high..Can USPLabs supply the Geranium content per cap?
It was more out of curiosity than 'need to know'.I would want to tell you more than anyone else but I cannot and it is because we tested ratios upon ratios upon ratios to find the prefect ratio.....but it is not high..
Indeed!..,
Your answer tells me there is some wicked synergies going on there to get THAT kind of effect!:veryhappy:
an amazing addition...Hey guys,
Just making sure that taking Forskolin with OEP is OK. Got in on the IC deal and wanted to make sure before use.
Thanks!
That would be an awesome addition. Forskolin exerts its action by activating adenylate cyclase, an enzyme responsible for boosting cellular AMP (cAMP), a key cell-regulating enzyme that ignites a host of other enzymes involved in diverse cellular functions.Hey guys,
Just making sure that taking Forskolin with OEP is OK. Got in on the IC deal and wanted to make sure before use.
Thanks!
Any AM sponsors or USP lab reps care to walk near my borders? Tell your friends at Nutra that when come over to my castle to bail you out to bring me some OEP and some cases of Prime to strengthen some of my Generals and worshipers.kim jong il, \
Unfortunately the imperialist Americans have banned the supply of OxyElitePro to North Korea on the threat of death.
Or a fate worse than death! Dr Phil re-runs on all channels!
Long live the Peoples beloved Leader!
There are significant benefits in stacking Recreate and OEP. A low-stim product, Recreate was designed to target fat loss from a broad variety of pathways that include, but are not limited to, recruiting the sympathomimetic action of the most potent endogenous fat-burning agent, norepinephrine; provoking the selective inhibition of 11-beta-HSD1 for cortisol modulation and reduction in visceral adipose-tissue levels; enhanced stimulation of thyroid function via increased T4 production and increased conversion of T4 to the metabolically more active T3; cAMP activation and the associated metabolic effects (see my earlier post regarding forskolin-induced cAMP activation); and inhibition of the enzyme, glycerol-3-phosphate dehydrogenase that modulates the conversion of glucose into fatty acids; leptin/CCK/GLP1-related appetite regulation [leptin is a hormone that signals the brain to induce satiety. Beyond this, leptin also supports fat breakdown in adipose cells. Futhermore, two of the body's hunger-suppressing hormones are cholecystokinin (CCK) and glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1). These satiety hormones signal the brain that fullness has been reached, and that further caloric intake should cease. In any case, besides fat storage, adipocytes are known to possess active endocrine function. The increase in adipocyte size characterizes increased body-fat mass. This increase in adipocyte size is governed by gene transciption factors (GTFs). In turn, these GTFs modulate the endocrine hormone, adiponectin. Adiponectin expression not only plays a role in adipocyte size increase, but is also involved in insulin sensitivity. Large fat cells show lower adiponectin secretion. Increasing adiponectin levels is important for fat loss and enhanced insulin sensitivity. Recreate supports these benefits]; as well as powerful antioxidant and immune support. So, Recreate is an effective comprehensive low-stim fat-burner that can be used stand-alone or stacked with other stim-based or non-stim far burners.I would like to know what, if any benefits there are to stacking OEP and Recreate (OEP AM dose of 2 and Recreate PM dose of 2)?....
Holy S**t, you wrote all that on a cell phone? Fair playI had to type my posts on this page on my cell phone, so the whole thing looks quite "bunched up". Sorry!
Personally, I find that the question regarding who should use Recreate, and who should use OEP instead, is not an easy one to answer. The easiest response would be: Just stack them! More seriously, though, it may depend on individual preference. In particular, stim-sensitive users should prefer Recreate or use OEP at half dose, if that works for them. Furthermore, from my point of view, Recreate would be more suitable for a user seeking generalized fat-loss, including fat-loss in visceral adipose tissue, while regulating appetite and preserving lean mass. OEP, for me, then would be more suitable for a post-Recreate user that not only is able to cope with higher stims, but is also looking for more (localized) targeted fat loss, including the visceral-adipose-subcutaneous varieties, achieved via a tight matrix of highly effective synergists and pathways. Ideally, again this is my personal opinion and does not constitute a USPLabs recommendation, one should either stack Recreate and OEP or use Recreate first, then follow with OEP. Ultimately, though, the usage sequence does not really matter, as long as one uses both Recreate and OEP in a given supplementation cycle of, say, eight weeks.while the guys above are mentioning recreate, how do these two products sit against each other?
I mean I've used recreate in the past and it did actually work quite well for me, at what point do you say person A should use recreate, person B should use OEP?
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Yep!Holy S**t, you wrote all that on a cell phone? Fair play