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Old 05-28-2008, 03:47 PM   #1
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Winny Transdermal Method?
Is it possible to easily strip winny of its 17aa, making it untoxic and also able to have a light enough weight to be penetrated through the skin?
 
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Old 05-28-2008, 03:56 PM   #2
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Striping it of the 17a may not make it have the same effects. For example, adding a 17a to 1, 4 AD makes it a precursor for dbol as opposed to a boldenone.
 


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Old 05-28-2008, 04:24 PM   #3
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good point...
 
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Old 05-28-2008, 04:29 PM   #4
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any idea what compound this would make? You seem to have a good org. chem backround so i doubt its hard to figure out.
 
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any idea what compound this would make? You seem to have a good org. chem backround so i doubt its hard to figure out.
On paper and real world are 2 different beasts.
 


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why would you want to? its not that toxic, and is effective
 


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Old 05-28-2008, 06:01 PM   #7
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its VERY toxic
 
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comparably, it's not very toxic at all.

the 17aa plays a very crucial role in its metabolism. Stripping that off cuts it's already mild potency in pieces. Essentially, you're left with the same thing as "prostanozol".

But none of this really matters because you can't de-alkylate the carbon chain without destroying the molecule.

What is your obsession with transdermal winstrol anyway?
 
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No obsession. Just the only thing i have. And only a little of it. And ive read a lot of blood results from pre/during/post winny cycles on ology from reputable people, and all liver values get smashed
 
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There is already unmethylated winny on the market, so that isn't an issue...dermally it should be pretty good but it is pretty good orally as well, so it is kind of pointless.
 


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u just like to rub liquidy goo all over your body dont you?

unmethylated winny is prostanzol and clones..
 
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i agree, there wouldnt be any point it making it dermal, because you cant 'knock' out the methyl group easily.

just eat it
 
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prostanazol has an ether attached...making it unable to be effective transdermally
 
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Is it possible to easily strip winny of its 17aa, making it untoxic and also able to have a light enough weight to be penetrated through the skin?
get yourself some drost prop and put it into a TD. that works :-)
 


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get yourself some drost prop and put it into a TD. that works :-)
haha, mast will def work.

Have you tried taking the ester off? Lye is a li'l easier to get a hold of without the DEA tracking you. (I'm totally paranoid about buying reagents online).
 
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haha, mast will def work.

Have you tried taking the ester off? Lye is a li'l easier to get a hold of without the DEA tracking you. (I'm totally paranoid about buying reagents online).
Too much work for me. It is effective without removal of ester. As is Tren Ace. I have heard that the ester is cleaved during transport across dermis. I do not know for sure what happens with the ester but can say for certain that it is effective nonetheless.
 


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