DMSO 70% vs 90%?

  1. Registered User
    donnyblaze1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    8
    Answers
    0

    DMSO 70% vs 90%?


    Hello all,
    I'm super new to transdermals, going to try my first transdermal this week, added to the cycle I'm currently on. I've already got the gear, DMSO, and a pretty good idea of how to make the transdermal, but I just noticed DMSO comes in both 70% and 90% concentrations. I have 90%. Will this work ok?

  2. Registered User
    RedwolfWV's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  185 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Age
    50
    Posts
    3,258
    Answers
    0

    Is that all your going to use is DMSO for the carrier?? If so, Its gonna burn. Your gonna need to rotate sites each time you use it. I've got the 90%, but only add a few milliliters to Penetrate.
  3. Registered User
    jonny21's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Age
    46
    Posts
    2,254
    Answers
    0

    either will probably smell something fierce. i would try to find 99%.
    Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
    •   
       

  4. Banned
    bigironkiller's Avatar
    Stats
    6'4"  260 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    949
    Answers
    0

    i heard that anything over 75% decreased its effiecieny.
  5. Registered User
    jonny21's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Age
    46
    Posts
    2,254
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by bigironkiller View Post
    i heard that anything over 75% decreased its effiecieny.
    over 75% final concentration of solution maybe.
    Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
  6. Registered User
    RedwolfWV's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  185 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Age
    50
    Posts
    3,258
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny21 View Post
    either will probably smell something fierce. i would try to find 99%.

    the 90% Stuff I have doesn't smell bad at all. Its Neogen brand if anyone is interested.
  7. Gold Member
    BodyWizard's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  195 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Age
    62
    Posts
    2,378
    Answers
    0

    I'll try to track back my search, but the info I found (on transdermal specifically) stated that the greatest penetration/carrier effect came from a dilution of between 70 & 90 percent.

    I used as 75% concentration (from a 99.9% stock) on a batch of formestane & the solvency was excellent. Mixing w/ Penetrate was clean & straightforward (no crash), absorption has been excellent.

    Due to the warnings from jonny21 & others, I have not attempted experimenting w/ a DMSO-only carrier, and I rotate sites consistently; however, w/ 5g of form dissolved in 10ml of dilute DMSO, one's target dosage should be available w/ just a few drops....
  8. Registered User
    Turd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    45
    Answers
    0

    Which is better for a pgf2a transdermal cream , gel, or liquid?
  9. Registered User
    MuscleBound1337's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    928
    Answers
    0

    99.9% ftw. When you add it to penetrate make sure you put it into a HDPE bottle. If you look at the bottom of the bottle on penetrate it will say 1 in the recycle symbol. It needs to be 2 or the dmso will disolve some plastic. I wasted about 5 of my last precious grams of formestane liek this.
  10. Gold Member
    BodyWizard's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  195 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Age
    62
    Posts
    2,378
    Answers
    0

    Odd - I haven't had that prob
  11. Registered User
    daniel35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    276
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleBound1337 View Post
    99.9% ftw. When you add it to penetrate make sure you put it into a HDPE bottle. If you look at the bottom of the bottle on penetrate it will say 1 in the recycle symbol. It needs to be 2 or the dmso will disolve some plastic. I wasted about 5 of my last precious grams of formestane liek this.
    So when it says 1 that is not as good as when it says 2 correct?
  12. Gold Member
    BodyWizard's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  195 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Age
    62
    Posts
    2,378
    Answers
    0

    Seriously, the Penetrate bottles are holding up *JUST FINE* - with as much as 30ml of DMSO 99.9 added. Several months, and absolutely no deterioration - inside or out.

    MuscleBound1337, can you provide detail about what happened in your case?
  13. Bananas
    Board Sponsor
    TripDog's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  201 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10,084
    Answers
    0

    I read somewhere that stuff is toxic to the eyes, if thats the case it seriously isn't worth it. I think thats the one thing in life you don't want to fukc with.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2
  14. Gold Member
    BodyWizard's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  195 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Age
    62
    Posts
    2,378
    Answers
    0

    Having had 3 rounds of eye surgery, I can only agree - still, if you're smart enough to kept all the *OTHER* bad crap out of your eyes, you're probably smart/careful enough to keep DMSO / furniture polish / jalapeno seeds / gasoline out of them, too...careful enough is careful enough.

    (edit) No kidding, I'm extremely particular about what I let it touch, and how I touch it: most of the stuff laying around *any* old house I wouldn't want carried directly into my system. I use nitrile gloves whenever I'm handling it, when mixing or cleaning up or applying.

    But than, that's just me.
  15. Registered User
    Kristofer68SS's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    41
    Posts
    5,599
    Answers
    0

    Lazy Sob


    A tad off the subject, but.....

    If one were to add anything to Penetrate from the below list, in order to improve absorbtion. What would it be and what increment per Penetrate bottle?

    I want to brew up another 1-t, 4ad TD. maybe let a friend try it.

    I have the following on hand.

    99% DMSO
    prop gylcol
    iso palmitate
    iso myristate
    99% iso alcohol
    oleic acid

    I know i can make my own brew, but i want to be lazy. OK?

    Reps
  16. Registered User
    jonny21's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Age
    46
    Posts
    2,254
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    A tad off the subject, but.....

    If one were to add anything to Penetrate from the below list, in order to improve absorbtion. What would it be and what increment per Penetrate bottle?

    I want to brew up another 1-t, 4ad TD.

    I have the following on hand.

    99% DMSO
    prop gylcol
    iso palmitate
    iso myristate
    99% iso alcohol
    oleic acid

    I know i can make my own brew, but i want to be lazy. OK?

    Reps
    You could add 60ml DMSO which would make it 20% of total volume (240+60=300)

    I would say adding oleic acid would help but I'm not sure what is in the triglyceride complex in penetrate (aka dermabolics "transport matrix" or the original avant formula ;-)
    It is most likely already in there, at least I would have it in there.

    There is already iso prop alcohol and the others are just to moisten will not increase absorption.
    Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
  17. Registered User
    Kristofer68SS's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    41
    Posts
    5,599
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny21 View Post
    You could add 60ml DMSO which would make it 20% of total volume (240+60=300)

    I would say adding oleic acid would help but I'm not sure what is in the triglyceride complex in penetrate (aka dermabolics "transport matrix" or the original avant formula ;-)
    It is most likely already in there, at least I would have it in there.

    There is already iso prop alcohol and the others are just to moisten will not increase absorption.

    yeah i was leaning towards just the DMSO.........what do you think the shelf life is of DMSO?

    I emailed the place where i purchased and they stated, no less than a year, probably alot longer. They had no data for shelf life in there MSDS.

    Im right at 2 years with my chems. my powders a tad longer.

    Reps for the response. thanks
  18. Registered User
    jonny21's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Age
    46
    Posts
    2,254
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    yeah i was leaning towards just the DMSO.........what do you think the shelf life is of DMSO?

    I emailed the place where i purchased and they stated, no less than a year, probably alot longer. They had no data for shelf lift in there MSDS.

    Im right at 2 years with my chems. my powders a tad longer.

    Reps for the response. thanks
    Not too sure about shelf life. Due to the nature of most chemicals I would say it is still active but not at 100% original.
    Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
  19. Registered User
    Kristofer68SS's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    41
    Posts
    5,599
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny21 View Post
    Not too sure about shelf life. Due to the nature of most chemicals I would say it is still active but not at 100% original.
    Yeah i was worried a little about the integrity.........I dont think it will hurt me, i just think it wont be as active..........

    Going with it
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. dmso and pgh? dmso and superdrol?
    By jim brooks in forum IGF-1/GH
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-11-2006, 05:56 PM
  2. dmso
    By captainbicept in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-01-2003, 08:34 PM
  3. Dmso
    By pumpin iron in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 04-28-2003, 06:46 PM
  4. DMSO to T-1
    By neckcrank in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-16-2003, 06:06 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in