Tren td question:
- 12-27-2007, 03:48 PM
- 12-27-2007, 06:37 PM
I'd at least filter it through a coffee filter to get rid of the binders. The acetate ester is no problem though.
You will probably get about the same amount of "active" by eating the pellets.
- 12-28-2007, 05:13 PM
Anybody else eat their tren pellets?My The 1 LOG: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/254164-my-one-log.html
12-29-2007, 08:22 PM
Somewhere there is a post by Skye and I think he said fina had a 25% oral bio-availability. I'd eat them before I'd do a TD because the absorption rate by TD isn't always the same. Lots of factors can change the absorption rate from application to application.
12-30-2007, 12:12 PM
12-31-2007, 01:13 AM
I've been hearing this "eat the pellets" deal for some time. I WOULD LOVE to see a log with it.
I've crushed the pellets right up and put it in a TD, and they seemed to achieve as better result than the gritty tren base I did the same with.
The binders are inert and won't hurt you in a TD.
You can extract the crystals, and cleave the ester, but you will lose more product this way than if you just applied the Tren ace directly.
Tren Ace crystals are really hard to get to form, they are notoriously stubborn.
01-27-2008, 06:56 PM
01-27-2008, 07:12 PM
01-27-2008, 07:37 PM
01-27-2008, 10:07 PM
7 pellets a day orally with test (injection) are treating me well. If you like anxiety and some insomnia!
My The 1 LOG: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/254164-my-one-log.html
01-27-2008, 10:11 PM
01-29-2008, 12:44 AM
A few years back there was a popular "fina" board that had all kinds of crazy applications. TD was considered to be more effective than oral, but was a pain in the ass and stinky. (the most common carrier was dmso). I've done oral too and it was so-so and not very cost effective. Believe it or not a few of us tried crushing and snorting them. Needless to say, that did not go well or last long. It did give you a nice preworkout rush but it coulda just been the intense pain from snorting the F-ers. But anyway- if you're injecting test anyway why not inject the fina? It's easy to convert and much more effective.
01-29-2008, 04:28 AM
01-29-2008, 10:17 AM
02-04-2008, 06:09 PM
02-05-2008, 03:06 AM
I was asking bout alot of this a while back motiv8er, I dont remember much but oral bioavailability is def not too shabb although trans derm is still higher yet, also theres no problem with just crushing up the pellets youll just have a lot of residue left over. also if your carrier has DMSO in it then youll want to rethink about stripping it. DMSO isnt prejiduce about what it will force through and eill make alot of the nast filler and other impurities go through with the active, your better off putting it in methyl alchohol first and then adding it if it has DMSO.... ill do some digging real quick for you man.
02-05-2008, 03:24 AM
DAMN, turns out i reread the thread I was thinking about and we took the discusion to PM's after about 2 posts.... those PM's aer long gone.
Im pretty sure the final verdict was that turning it into a transermal wasnt much more effective then jsut popping them (which it looks like your doin anywho) and as long as you can afford it a very vaible alternative to pinning. Im interested to see how you personally do with this, are you going to do any detailed logging? at least give us some updates if you dont mind.
02-05-2008, 03:27 AM
Have you thought about crushing em up disolving them in PGA and then putting them into a propylene glycol solution to help increase oral bioavailability?
or at least some olive oil?
02-09-2008, 11:14 AM
02-09-2008, 11:23 AM
02-09-2008, 06:47 PM
as for the Phera plex or SD being made into a trans, well technically yes it can if the molecules are small enough. BUT you dont want to... they are both methylated giving it nearly 100% absorption through the liver on first pass, by taking it transdermally youd lose over 50% of the compound and it would be an utter waste of the compound and penetrate transdermal solution.... this is the whole reason these compounds ARE methylated, to make taking them orally the most effective route, other then injecting them.... then you still lose some through the conversion process to strip it from the fillers, so its still prob better to ingest it.
02-09-2008, 06:49 PM
02-09-2008, 08:20 PM
02-09-2008, 08:24 PM
PEG won't increase bio-availability. Just used to keep chemical dispersed in solution. If you are planning to uncap Pher-Plex or Superdrol and place in solution this will be a waste of time. If you find bulk powders then placing it in solution will be helpful.
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
02-09-2008, 08:26 PM
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